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Old 09-18-2008, 09:53 PM    (permalink
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Is it just me, or should Reggie Bush move to WR, at least most of the time? I know it sounds very IDD, but really, he is an ineffective runner, let's admit. That being said, even as a detractor of Bush, I do know:

He is electric in open space.
He has very good hands.
He has experience lining up at WR sometimes.

The problem has been actually getting him in open space. Putting him at WR would make it much easier. It would allow him to catch the ball with only one or two guys near him, he would be a major weapon on screens and reverses, and he wouldn't need to move through a hole in the front seven. When he gets into open space, he makes big plays. That's where most of his TDs have come.

He's what? 6' 200? That's decent size for a WR with his athleticism. Personally I think he could do it, and salvage his career.
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That doesn't sound IDD at all...you don't want him to bulk up 50 pounds and play DE. :D

Seriously though, it's not a bad idea. I just noticed that, as is, he's about 15th on the receiving yardage leaderboard. Why not teach him how to run routes and split him out wide?
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That doesn't sound IDD at all...you don't want him to bulk up 50 pounds and play DE. :D

Seriously though, it's not a bad idea. I just noticed that, as is, he's about 15th on the receiving yardage leaderboard. Why not teach him how to run routes and split him out wide?
Come to think of it...

Do you think any OT would be able to stop HIS speed rush??
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Do you think any OT would be able to stop HIS speed rush??
They wouldn't have to. By the time he stops shaking around and decides to rush past the line of scrimmage the pass would have been thrown.
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I've been saying this since he was at USC. He could have been a Steve Smith type of receiver by now if he would have been focusing on it since college.
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Why not just keep him doing what he's doing? He is already catching a super high number of catches, probably just as many as he'd catch actually playing WR. And they can get him a few carries, and even maybe return a few kicks. Keep him as an all around weapon, and just select plays that play to his strength.

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Anyways...Bush is half the back Chris Johnson is so i say put him at WR.
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Not a bad idea probably fits him best.
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No one can run for us right now, so it's moot until we upgrade our run blocking.
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Personally, I think that New Orleans' plan to line up Bush in whatever way can get him in open space is fine as it is. The fact is that he's way more likely have open space and one on one match-ups outside in the flats than he is running posts and flags.

The problem is New Orleans is that they have to rely on Bush as a runner right now because no one else is stepping up and that offensive line isn't blocking like it should. It hasn't been the best career for Bush so far, but I still see no reason that if the Saints pull their offense together Bush can't be a very effective player in the capacity they have in mind for him.
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He needs more designed runs behind a fullback, and he definitely needs more passes downfield.....
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Personally, I think that New Orleans' plan to line up Bush in whatever way can get him in open space is fine as it is. The fact is that he's way more likely have open space and one on one match-ups outside in the flats than he is running posts and flags.

The problem is New Orleans is that they have to rely on Bush as a runner right now because no one else is stepping up and that offensive line isn't blocking like it should. It hasn't been the best career for Bush so far, but I still see no reason that if the Saints pull their offense together Bush can't be a very effective player in the capacity they have in mind for him.
Agreed, the issue isn't so much Bush, its who else is on the team. If they had of drafted Forte or Stewart or Kevin Smith they probably would've moved him out to a more WR orientated player.

I think that if the Duce came back to full force, which he never will we'd see Bush in on KR and PR duties as well as snaps at wide receiver and tailback. He's a versatile player who needs more coaching.
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I don't think he should move outright to WR, but his struggles as an inside runner even after all this time, and all the weight he has gained, tells me he should just be a tweener...He needs to be used with another back like when Deuce was pounding the ball up the middle, and he needs to line up in the slot, go in motion, do whatever he can to get into open space.


I wouldn't want to see him lined up as a WR every snap, keep him in the backfield and move him around to create mis matches, its a weapon having a RB who can catch as good as him, he's fine unless the Saints are asking him to carry the load....His YPC being this low after all this time speaks volumes about his ability as a true RB.
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I agree with those that want to leave him at RB. He's pretty successful as it is, and they still have to respect his running once in a while on tosses and off tackle plays. He has the speed and agility to break it outside on any play, so if you put him on one side of the field, it kind of takes away the other half for him to work with.

No one ever expected him to be an inside runner, so i don't understand the huge disappointment with him now. I love the guy as a player, and the fact that defenses prepare so much for him, seeing as how him and Brees are the only offense that NO has, still says plenty of his skill.
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He's like Michael Vick. An absolutely electric athlete who can do amazing things on the football field. Unfortunately, it's difficult to incorporate him into an offense because there aren't many players like him.
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I've been saying this since he was at USC. He could have been a Steve Smith type of receiver by now if he would have been focusing on it since college.
I've always thought he would be far better used as a slot reciever. Something like a "wing-back" that we have discussed in the Offensive Themes Thread so he could get in on toss and sweep plays as well.
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What he really needs are more direct snaps and draw plays to screw with the defense's head. Cool it on the sweeps for a while and let him play around in the slot. Motion motion motion!!! Throw to him off play action. Hell, let him throw a pass or two a la LT, anything that gets a defender on his heels for a split second, we all know Reggie can take advantage of that. Honestly the talent is there he needs some outside the box play calling so he can finally find his damn way in the NFL.

Aside from that I'd love to see him running routes downfield, he can do it with the best of em.
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HE should be Jay Cutler's towel boy
Jay Cutler doesn't sweat, so that would be useless.
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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Ive wondered this since he entered the draft. The explosiveness was there, but how would he be utilized. As Metsox pointed out, he's a one of a kind player. You have a rare talent in front of you with unique abilities, he needs to be utilized differently than your normally exceptional player. And he also needs to run some deep routes because everyone knows at this point that the saints are going to give him the ball fast and try to let him get yac, so deep passes would help keep the D honest.
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Very original.
yes, because you're the first person ever to say or think that Vick was just an exceptional athlete who was out of place at times on the football field, brilliant.

and use him as an athlete. I don't see him running slants over the middle getting drilled around by safeties(then again, he'd be hard to catch and hit) and he's already used on screens split wide. It would make sense, he could always still get like 10 carries a game.

look at this, we're talking of him changing positions, wasn't he supposed to be the "next Marshall Faulk"... that worked well...
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