Pacman Jones bites Police officer, faces felony charges - Page 5

TheChampIsHere · 03-03-2007, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Vito

Do you think Jones is going to have an epiphany one day and start leading a responsible life? All of the crimes he has commited should show you that this man is not one to be trusted. You can look at what he has done so far and say that his crimes are "harmless" (though I would not say that). When you commit a crime you are breaking the law. Laws exist to keep order and keep people safe. He may not be Tim McVeigh or Hitler, and I am pretty sure njx9 is not saying he is them. The point he is making and that I am making is that Pacman is not a safe person to be around, he is a threat to society, and you SHOULD judge him for that.

What if Pacman did commit a "serious" crime? What would you say then. These small crimes are usually warning signs that this person is not one to be trusted. After 10 crimes commited, at what point do you say enough is enough? You cannot just let this man keep breaking the law and using his football fortune get him out of everything. If he is not disciplined he will keep doing what he is doing, since getting arrested does not seem to bother him. It is outrageous that you can defend him.

First off, I dont buy that he is a threat to society. I would say he is a threat to himself. But not a threat to society. Aside from a report that sounds like its bogus about him biting a cop, he hasnt really done anything violent, he has only been around violent people. He should think about trying to make new friends, but that is not an easy thing to do, especially if youre talking about people he grew up with.

And yes, I do believe Pac-Man can turn himself around. Ive watched too many people turn their lives around and I myself am a former knucklehead who got a new outlook on life and turned himself around. So yes, I do believe strongly that people who engage in self-destructive behavior are usually good people inside and can change.

Titans10 · 03-03-2007, 04:28 PM

lol check this out

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...=snibbe/070302

someone447 · 03-03-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickscott

Do you have any idea how the majority of drug users get money to purchase drugs? It's not through hard working 8-4 jobs, it's by robbing and stealing from hard working folks, so yes, his use of drugs is in many ways does escalate the violence we see.

P.S. Have you ever met anyone that you can't find an excuse for?

You do know that most cocaine users are white collar workers such as lawyers? Right? Or rich kids who's parents give them money to spend on whatever they like, and they just happen to choose drugs. I know a bunch of people heavily into drugs, and guess how they pay for them? WITH THEIR JOB! A HUGE percentage of people in this country use marijuana. Do all of them steal? No. Quit blindly taking everything the government says about drugs at face value. A lot of it is just propoganda. What escalates the violence we see is the notion of a "War on Drugs." Legalize drugs and those shady characters that sell them go away, because they can't compete with the people who sell legally, because then you don't have to worry about getting shot. Just like alcohol now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severe Punishment

Seriously, why is it so hard for these athletes to just play ball ?
Why on earth do they feel it neccesary to go to strip clubs in the first place ?
You mean to tell me that a young millionaire has to pay for it to see it ??? wow, how sad.

Ok, we all know he doesn't have to pay to see it. How many times do you think the strippers go home with him after? Why should athletes be held to higher standards than any other member of society?

Is he a joke of a human being? It sure seems like it. Anyone that gets into as much legal trouble as him is ******* stupid. HE BIT A POLICE OFFICER FOR CHRIST SAKE! It isn't hard not to get caught breaking the law. I am completely against the whole war on drugs. If someone wants to take them, by all means, go ahead and do it. Just don't be a dumbass and get caught. I think we can all agree that he is a dumbass. I honestly can't stand stupid people, I think they are all a detriment to society, and HE IS ******* STUPID!

TCIH, you are on just as much of a high horse as anyone on the otherside of the argument. He *allegedly* committed a felony, if he is found guilty, he probably should be kicked out of the NFL, just like he would if he was at any Fortune 500 company. Athletes shouldn't be held to any lower or higher standards than anyone else.

But back to the strip club thing, every guy here would go to a strip club if they knew full well that they were ******* one(or more) of the strippers that night. Hell, I know I would. It isn't about HAVING to pay to see tits, it is about going out with the guys and having a good time, while looking at a bunch of hot naked girls.

TheChampIsHere · 03-04-2007, 01:09 AM

someone, i never once said Pac-Man shouldnt have consequences. If he gets convicted of a felony, he will get kicked out of the league, and I wont argue with it. If the Titans cut him b/c enough is enough, I wont argue with it for a ******. And he has done some very stupid things, no question about it. I dont know if he really bit a cop or not, but if he did that is just dumb. Even if the cops were unfairly arresting him. Ive had asshole cops slap the cuffs on my wrists a couple times when I had barely done anything just to scare me or whatever but Im not dumb enough to get in a damn fight with them and bite em. But like I said, Im not sure he even did it and its his life and his decision and if he did bite a cop he will deal with consequences.

P.S. Why do the bleep out the word m-i-n-u-t-e

eacantdraft · 03-04-2007, 01:27 PM

The cops should have done a Steve Foley on PacMan.

lod01 · 03-05-2007, 11:45 AM

Eventually this waste of oxygen will be in prison. It's only a matter of time.

jdcdam1 · 03-05-2007, 12:49 PM

This story happened Before the Las Vegas incident...so this is old news....and its funny to me to hear all these negative comments...You didnt hear about him getting in trouble until he was headed to the NFL, and that's because of people around you excepting things from you and constantly trying to defoul you. I know, I grew up near Pacman (Boatrock Projects) and know some of his people, including the guy that was with him during this incident....people WILL TRY YOU when they know you have money, it's true....in Las Vegas, there were other celebrities in the club doing the same thing, but the media chose to point him out cuz of past instances to further discredit him...it's sad but trust me Pacman isn't the guy the media tries to make him out to be. No one talks negative about y'all when you all go to the strip club after work, or get pulled over for DUI...and if you did, you wouldn't want to lose your job over it...and that whole Police situation is blown way out of proportion, Atlanta always does their stars like that...so y'all should watch y'all mouth.

Addict · 03-05-2007, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titans10

lol check this out

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...=snibbe/070302

lol.

I hate the ten characer rule.

njx9 · 03-05-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdcdam1

No one talks negative about y'all when you all go to the strip club after work, or get pulled over for DUI...and if you did, you wouldn't want to lose your job over it...

do you have any idea why no one would talk "negative" about me if i got a DUI? because no one knows me. i'm not a celebrity. i'm not in the public eye. but i'm sure no one talks "negative" about any other celebrity on earth when they get a DUI. it's probably just football players from bad neighborhoods.

further, i likely WOULD lose my job, as a large part of it is contingent upon my ability to drive and a SINGLE DUI (let alone any other arrests) would cost me my ability to do that. what's funny is that you don't mention that pacman's felony assault (biting the police officer) would prevent most people on earth from getting any meaningful job because they have to check that pesky little "have you ever committed a felony" box on the application or undergo a background check. a friend of mine who was convicted and sent to federal prison for robbing a bank will be lucky if he can keep his job at a chain restaurant that his friend had to pull strings to get for him. but everyone on this board is a prick for believeing that athletes might possibly be held to the same standard.

yeah. ok.

jdcdam1 · 03-08-2007, 11:27 AM

It has nothing to do with the neighborhood, but yes celebrities are singled out, then talked about like dogs and that's not fair, when actually anyone who goes to ESPN Zone and drinks a few beers while watching the game can technically be charged with DUI. So don't act like he's the worst person on earth. And as far as him biting the police goes.....I'll say it like this, remember when the lady said he spit in her face and the charges were dropped cuz she couldnt get her story straight? the same thing will happen here. And what felony was Pacman charged with before entering the league? He had a misdeanor, that's it...In fact, he only has ONE charge against him, the rest was all either dismissed, or he had nothing to do with it in the 1st place. You guys gotta start getting the facts straight before y'all start writing your opinion. go to ESPN right now and read the story on him, maybe that'll help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by njx9

do you have any idea why no one would talk "negative" about me if i got a DUI? because no one knows me. i'm not a celebrity. i'm not in the public eye. but i'm sure no one talks "negative" about any other celebrity on earth when they get a DUI. it's probably just football players from bad neighborhoods.

further, i likely WOULD lose my job, as a large part of it is contingent upon my ability to drive and a SINGLE DUI (let alone any other arrests) would cost me my ability to do that. what's funny is that you don't mention that pacman's felony assault (biting the police officer) would prevent most people on earth from getting any meaningful job because they have to check that pesky little "have you ever committed a felony" box on the application or undergo a background check. a friend of mine who was convicted and sent to federal prison for robbing a bank will be lucky if he can keep his job at a chain restaurant that his friend had to pull strings to get for him. but everyone on this board is a prick for believeing that athletes might possibly be held to the same standard.

yeah. ok.

jared · 03-08-2007, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdcdam1

And what felony was Pacman charged with before entering the league? He had a misdeanor, that's it...In fact, he only has ONE charge against him, the rest was all either dismissed, or he had nothing to do with it in the 1st place. You guys gotta start getting the facts straight before y'all start writing your opinion. go to ESPN right now and read the story on him, maybe that'll help.

From the ESPN article (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2790076) you suggested we all read:
"During his freshman year, Jones allegedly beat another student with a pool cue in a bar fight; in October 2003, he was was sentenced to one year in jail. Eventually, the malicious assault charge, a felony, was reduced to a misdemeanor, the sentence was suspended and Jones was placed on two years' probation. For 60 days, he wore an electronic monitoring bracelet. Late in 2005, the state claimed he had violated the probation, and it was extended by 90 days."
How convenient that criminal battery with a weapon was reduced to a misdemeanor. Regardless, he was charged and convicted.
"In the 23 months since he was drafted by the Titans, Jones has drawn the scrutiny of the police at least 10 times and has been charged with assault, felony vandalism and felony obstruction. And now, the events in Las Vegas are threatening his NFL career after just two seasons in the league."
I'm sure poor Pacman is just always in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm sure every single 'incident' with the police was just a case of Pacman being unfairly targeted by people who can't get their story straight. This guy has had plenty of chances and gotten off the hook a lot more than you or I because of his status as a football player. Just because charges are dropped doesn't mean nothing happened.

njx9 · 03-08-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jared

From the ESPN article (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2790076) you suggested we all read:
"During his freshman year, Jones allegedly beat another student with a pool cue in a bar fight; in October 2003, he was was sentenced to one year in jail. Eventually, the malicious assault charge, a felony, was reduced to a misdemeanor, the sentence was suspended and Jones was placed on two years' probation. For 60 days, he wore an electronic monitoring bracelet. Late in 2005, the state claimed he had violated the probation, and it was extended by 90 days."
How convenient that criminal battery with a weapon was reduced to a misdemeanor. Regardless, he was charged and convicted.
"In the 23 months since he was drafted by the Titans, Jones has drawn the scrutiny of the police at least 10 times and has been charged with assault, felony vandalism and felony obstruction. And now, the events in Las Vegas are threatening his NFL career after just two seasons in the league."
I'm sure poor Pacman is just always in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm sure every single 'incident' with the police was just a case of Pacman being unfairly targeted by people who can't get their story straight. This guy has had plenty of chances and gotten off the hook a lot more than you or I because of his status as a football player. Just because charges are dropped doesn't mean nothing happened.

that's the sound of jared slapping jcdam1, if anyone missed it. +rep

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcdam1

when actually anyone who goes to ESPN Zone and drinks a few beers while watching the game can technically be charged with DUI

that's actually not at all true and you should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking it was relevant. for instance, in many states, the BAC required for a DUI is somewhere around .08. if my BAC is under that, it doesn't matter that i had a "few beers at ESPN Zone", i won't "technically" receive a DUI. this is basic legal stuff that one would think you'd know before making up bad arguments.

LonghornsLegend · 03-08-2007, 02:06 PM

some of you guys should read about a persons background before your so quick to judge, and call them out on something...its easy to point fingers, and type about how someones such an idiot when you grew up with both parents and had the easy road all your life...

unless you know about struggling, or had to live in the projects to know what life is like, then you wouldnt understand....

in no way am i saying what pac man does is justified, or right, but i am saying you shouldnt judge someone unless you know what they went through growing up

eacantdraft · 03-08-2007, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

some of you guys should read about a persons background before your so quick to judge, and call them out on something...its easy to point fingers, and type about how someones such an idiot when you grew up with both parents and had the easy road all your life...

unless you know about struggling, or had to live in the projects to know what life is like, then you wouldnt understand....

in no way am i saying what pac man does is justified, or right, but i am saying you shouldnt judge someone unless you know what they went through growing up

Quit with the bleeding hearted stuff about how PacMan grew up. That is the worst cop out and excuse for criminal behavior. Many people had tough lives and struggled without having to resort to criminal behavior.

Throw the bum in prison for a few years and he will learn what struggling will be like when he gets out and he is past his prime for football.

njx9 · 03-08-2007, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

some of you guys should read about a persons background before your so quick to judge, and call them out on something...its easy to point fingers, and type about how someones such an idiot when you grew up with both parents and had the easy road all your life...

unless you know about struggling, or had to live in the projects to know what life is like, then you wouldnt understand....

in no way am i saying what pac man does is justified, or right, but i am saying you shouldnt judge someone unless you know what they went through growing up

ahhh, so my sorry childhood is excuse for me to do whatever i want, whenever i want because no one knows where i'm coming from? that's still a moronic excuse that simply does not work in the real world and never will.

further, i'd AGAIN like to point out that nearly everyone has consistently said "if guilty" to preface most of their remarks, speaking of "quick to judge".

AllanO444 · 03-08-2007, 04:16 PM

.................

njx9 · 03-08-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllanO444

damn....so many pacman haters in here. jealous idiots...

congratulations, you win the award for the single most inane, asinine post in the history of this board. and with your very first post, too!

jetsfan3 · 03-08-2007, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllanO444

damn....so many pacman haters in here. jealous idiots...

Why would I be jealous of a man who brings 80 thousand dollars to a strip club, throws it all away, and then wants it back? Or someone who has gotten in trouble with the law 10 times in less than two years?

You have a lot of nerve to come onto this forum and have your first post about people being idiots for making negative comments on Pacman. Do you even know what he has done? Get a damn clue.

AllanO444 · 03-08-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsfan3

Why would I be jealous of a man who brings 80 thousand dollars to a strip club, throws it all away, and then wants it back? Or someone who has gotten in trouble with the law 10 times in less than two years?

You have a lot of nerve to come onto this forum and have your first post about people being idiots for making negative comments on Pacman. Do you even know what he has done? Get a damn clue.

ive got a lotta nerve?? hahahahhahaha what are you gonna do to me? Do YOU even know what pacman has done?? according to the las vegas police department, NOTHING! YOU get a damn clue. and yes, you are all jealous. a man that brings 80 THOUSAND DOLLARS OF HIS OWN MONEY to a strip club....yall are just mad u dont have that money. comeon, please keep making fun of me....i find this amusing how ignorant you people can be!!!