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Old 09-25-2008, 08:54 PM    (permalink
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167 Games
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Where did you get your stats? NFL.com has him with 842 tackles, not your number. The rest are right, though.

As for the question, i think he is. Definitely not first ballot, or first five or so, but he'll get in eventually. If he gets in though, Darren Woodson better damn well get in also.

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Well if you're putting Dawkins in, then Rodney Harrison should def. get in and a lot of people seem to be on the fence when it comes to him.
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I think he should. He has been a beast for a decade.
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Where did you get your stats? NFL.com has him with 842 tackles, not your number. The rest are right, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Dawkins

Though NFL.com is probably more accurate haha. Darren Woodson should get in, but judging him of championships when he was on a loaded team his entire career and comparing it to Dawkins who was on a **** team for the majority of his career is apples and oranges.
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Well if you're putting Dawkins in, then Rodney Harrison should def. get in and a lot of people seem to be on the fence when it comes to him.
I dont think Harrison was ever an elite S.
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Well if you're putting Dawkins in, then Rodney Harrison should def. get in and a lot of people seem to be on the fence when it comes to him.
That's because Rodney Harrison is a dirty player and not very well-liked. I've never heard anyone say a bad word about Dawkins. And Harrison is a SS, while Dawk is a FS. Completely different.
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I dont think Harrison was ever an elite S.
He was arguablly the best safety in the league when he played for the Chargers.
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He was arguablly the dirtiest safety in the league when he played for the everyone.
Fixed it for you.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Dawkins

Though NFL.com is probably more accurate haha. Darren Woodson should get in, but judging him of championships when he was on a loaded team his entire career and comparing it to Dawkins who was on a **** team for the majority of his career is apples and oranges.
But, it says there 842 as well. That's where i checked initially as well, then i followed the link to NFL.com.

I know it shouldn't factor much into the voting, but you know the rings give you that extra 'umph'. Just like your life outside of the playing field isn't considered.
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"When he played for the everyone."

lol.

But yeah, I dont care how dirty or disliked the guy was, he was still a hell of a player and a hall of famer in my eyes. Just like some wouldnt want T.O. to get in because, he's a prima donna, that is just a joke.
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But, it says there 842 as well. That's where i checked initially as well, then i followed the link to NFL.com.

I know it shouldn't factor much into the voting, but you know the rings give you that extra 'umph'. Just like your life outside of the playing field isn't considered.
Weird. Check at the bottom. It has him down for 755/397/1152
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"When he played for the everyone."

lol.

But yeah, I dont care how dirty or disliked the guy was, he was still a hell of a player and a hall of famer in my eyes. Just like some wouldnt want T.O. to get in because, he's a primadona, that is just a joke.
Terrell Owens will be a Hall of Famer no matter what anyone says.
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Terrell Owens will be a Hall of Famer no matter what anyone says.
For sure but, there are some out there that would refuse to vote him in, which is just asinine.
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"When he played for the everyone."

lol.

But yeah, I dont care how dirty or disliked the guy was, he was still a hell of a player and a hall of famer in my eyes. Just like some wouldnt want T.O. to get in because, he's a prima donna, that is just a joke.
Lol i know, i left it like that for comedic purposes.

Yeah, i don't think the dirty play will take much affect on Harrison. He was a great player in San Diego, and if he were being voted in by his peers, it might be different.
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For sure but, there are some out there that would refuse to vote him in, which is just asinine.
And those are the people that eventually get their votes taken away. At least that's how i'd do it.
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Hmmm... I think he's a great player, but there have been so many HOF snobs that it would make a hard case for him to get in. Maybe after 3-5 times getting passed up, he might make it.

Winning a SB will go a long ways towards him getting in though. Same with McNabb. Both are a no, right now imo.
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The better question is whether Warner is going to get in. If he stays healthy and a starter...he'll be looking at 30,000, 200 Tds, one of the highest career completion percentages and passer ratings ever, and of course he does have two MVP awards and a ring. He certainly still has a shot at it, imo.
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The better question is whether Warner is going to get in. If he stays healthy and a starter...he'll be looking at 30,000, 200 Tds, one of the highest completion percentages and passer ratings, and of course he does have two MVP awards and a ring.
Hey, start your own thread then. Don't pollute Dawk's thread!
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Hey, start your own thread then. Don't pollute Dawk's thread!
We dont need a bunch of hall of fame threads so, I just put it in here. geez.
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I don't think John Lynch or Rodney Harrison makes it, and I'm not sure Dawkins has had a better career than either.

I say no, mostly because I think Dawkins will be a rather forgetable player once he retires.

What could happen, and after does for safties, is that he'll get in 20 years later in a down year for eligibility.
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Winning a SB will go a long ways towards him getting in though. Same with McNabb. Both are a no, right now imo.
Super Bowl wins are huge for QBs, but really not that important for every other postition when it comes to the hall of fame.
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We dont need a bunch of hall of fame threads so, I just put it in here. geez.
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The better question is whether Warner is going to get in. If he stays healthy and a starter...he'll be looking at 30,000, 200 Tds, one of the highest career completion percentages and passer ratings ever, and of course he does have two MVP awards and a ring. He certainly still has a shot at it, imo.
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I'd definitely put Warner in after passing him up a few times. He has been pretty good for more than a few years in his career, and was hands down the best twice, more than a lot of guys can say. Like you said, he has a ring also, so i don't think it's as on-the-line as it might seem.
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