Pac Man at it again!

Jughead10 · 10-08-2008, 07:11 PM

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...ts-in-a-fight/

Anyone else not suprised.

scottyboy · 10-08-2008, 07:12 PM

just saw this on BBI, I'm betting you did too! haha

It IS pft, so I'm gonna wait before I believe it 100%, but no, I'm not surprised at all if true

yourfavestoner · 10-08-2008, 07:14 PM

Meh...as long as charges aren't pressed then it doesn't really matter.

TitleTown088 · 10-08-2008, 07:35 PM

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Meh...as long as charges aren't pressed then it doesn't really matter.

For Adam it does. You know Goodell is going to be irate. Pacman is just a damn fool.

Burns336 · 10-08-2008, 07:39 PM

**** me. ****.

princefielder28 · 10-08-2008, 07:40 PM

but he's a changed man........

M.O.T.H. · 10-08-2008, 07:43 PM

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just saw this on BBI, I'm betting you did too! haha

It IS pft, so I'm gonna wait before I believe it 100%, but no, I'm not surprised at all if true

I've seen multiple sources...someone posted it in the Cowboys forum a little while ago. No, I am not surprised. Luckily, we're prepared if something was to come of this. Nothing may come of it though, considering it was a scuffle w/ his own security.

Paul · 10-08-2008, 07:43 PM

Right when he was starting to play well to.

FuzzyGopher · 10-08-2008, 07:49 PM

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Meh...as long as charges aren't pressed then it doesn't really matter.

Hasn't Goodell has suspended players in the past before charges are pressed? I'm pretty sure Pacman is on a short leash and there is zero tolerance regarding his bad behavior.

Burns336 · 10-08-2008, 07:50 PM

The hotel wont comment on the incident. Hopefully jerry puts them on the pay roll. We need this thug.

Number 10 · 10-08-2008, 08:06 PM

I don't think this is going to turn out to be anything.

bigbluedefense · 10-08-2008, 08:06 PM

Its actually not as big of a deal as we think.

Afterall, isn't this why they drafted Mike Jenkins to begin with? Time to earn that paycheck young man.

As for Pacman...what can you say really?

Number 10 · 10-08-2008, 08:09 PM

And from what I have seen, Jones hasn't been playing all the great. A lot of missed tackles and he's been faked out on double routes routinely.

bigbluedefense · 10-08-2008, 08:10 PM

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And from what I have seen, Jones hasn't been playing all the great. A lot of missed tackles and he's been faked out on double routes routinely.

Some of that has got to be rust though. Im sure he'll improve steadily during the season, and will be a much better corner come playoff time.

M.O.T.H. · 10-08-2008, 08:10 PM

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And from what I have seen, Jones hasn't been playing all the great. A lot of missed tackles and he's been faked out on double routes routinely.

meh...it's been an up and down year. He did play great on Ocho Cinco and against the Bengals this past week, though. His best game yet. He's coming along, it's just going to take a while to shake off the rust...if he can stay on the field, that is.

Number 10 · 10-08-2008, 08:11 PM

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Some of that has got to be rust though. Im sure he'll improve steadily during the season, and will be a much better corner come playoff time.

No doubt. It's just that the weaknesses in his game while in Tennessee are still there and I'm not sure he'll be the impact player they wanted. But hey, as a nickel back, you can't complain,

M.O.T.H. · 10-08-2008, 08:13 PM

We should also be happy that he has been able to come in and start w/ Newman down. I didnt think he'd be ready for something like that but, he hasnt been killing us or anything and looks to be improving by the week. Hopefully, this turns out to be nothing.

bigbluedefense · 10-08-2008, 08:14 PM

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No doubt. It's just that the weaknesses in his game while in Tennessee are still there and I'm not sure he'll be the impact player they wanted. But hey, as a nickel back, you can't complain,

true.

I think Dallas fans have to be more worried about Wade Phillip's terrible coverages in his scheme more than anything else though.

Wade has always been great at creating pressure packages, but he's also always been terrible at drawing up coverages. You can have an all world secondary back there it wouldn't matter. Ask any Chargers fan.

You can pass on a Wade Phillips defense. Always have been able too. Unless the pass rush is ridiculous.

Number 10 · 10-08-2008, 08:17 PM

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true.

I think Dallas fans have to be more worried about Wade Phillip's terrible coverages in his scheme more than anything else though.

Wade has always been great at creating pressure packages, but he's also always been terrible at drawing up coverages. You can have an all world secondary back there it wouldn't matter. Ask any Chargers fan.

You can pass on a Wade Phillips defense. Always have been able too. Unless the pass rush is ridiculous.

Their pass rush has been lacking as well, which is why I would be confident to play them right now. Ware has been his normal dominant self, but outside of him, nobody scares me. If you have a solid pass blocking line and receivers that get open, putting 24+ points on them should be easy. But that secondary is capable of making huge plays if QBs are forced into making tough, quick decisions.

Number 10 · 10-08-2008, 08:19 PM

For example...

BBD can you imagine the Giants had that secondary? Turnover central. But our secondary has lacked ball skills throughout the pass rush fest which has been the key reason they have stayed away from elite status as a whole.

bigbluedefense · 10-08-2008, 08:20 PM

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Their pass rush has been lacking as well, which is why I would be confident to play them right now. Ware has been his normal dominant self, but outside of him, nobody scares me. If you have a solid pass blocking line and receivers that get open, putting 24+ points on them should be easy. But that secondary is capable of making huge plays if QBs are forced into making tough, quick decisions.

I think Ware and Ratliff have been beastly. Everyone else though has been average at best in that front 7.

Ellis is getting older, but still reliable. Spencer is hurt. I think theyre better then theyre playing though, and expect them to turn it around sooner or later.

That defense is ranked 14th in the league I believe. Theyre better than that.

What surprises me about that defense is, theyve taken a step back this year stopping the run. Theyve always been a great run stuffing defense. This year, theyre ranked 10 in the league in rush defense. That is what surprises me more than anything. Ive always felt you can throw on that defense. But run on it? Im a little perplexed by that stat.

M.O.T.H. · 10-08-2008, 08:20 PM

Ware hasnt been all that great this year actually...almost all of his sacks are coming in garbage time, when the outcome of the game has already been decided. Obviously, it's not all about sacks but, he hasnt been his usual dominant self in rushing the passer. It's been an inconsistant effort this season. He's been good but, not his normal self.

Number 10 · 10-08-2008, 08:22 PM

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I think Ware and Ratliff have been beastly. Everyone else though has been average at best in that front 7.

Ellis is getting older, but still reliable. Spencer is hurt. I think theyre better then theyre playing though, and expect them to turn it around sooner or later.

That defense is ranked 14th in the league I believe. Theyre better than that.

What surprises me about that defense is, theyve taken a step back this year stopping the run. Theyve always been a great run stuffing defense. This year, theyre ranked 10 in the league in rush defense. That is what surprises me more than anything. Ive always felt you can throw on that defense. But run on it? Im a little perplexed by that stat.

It's the slanting scheme Phillips runs. High risk, high reward.

bigbluedefense · 10-08-2008, 08:22 PM

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For example...

BBD can you imagine the Giants had that secondary? Turnover central. But our secondary has lacked ball skills throughout the pass rush fest which has been the key reason they have stayed away from elite status as a whole.

Well, honestly, this year ive been very disappointed with our pass rush. It isn't nearly as good as last year. However, we've made up for it with much improved pass coverage.

They don't create turnovers, but they do a great job covering. Id put our secondary vs theirs quite honestly. I think Webster is playing on an elite level, and Ross is just as good if not better than Henry/Jones/Jenkins.

And if/when Terrell Thomas gets healthy, I pit him against their nickel CB as well. Phillips is doing great, the only duck is James Butler. But he can't be any worse than Roy Williams or Keith Davis/Pat Watkins.

bigbluedefense · 10-08-2008, 08:23 PM

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It's the slanting scheme Phillips runs. High risk, high reward.

you mean in terms of run stuffing?