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TO or Moss
Who would you take?(Poll) Who has worse character issues?
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04-20-2005, 02:25 PM
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If we base it on talent then Moss. If you go overall I say Moss still barely edges out TO.
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04-20-2005, 02:26 PM
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Moss is the best WR in the NFL and most talented EVER.
(until matt jones comes around 6'6" 242 4.37)
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04-20-2005, 02:33 PM
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I wouldn't take either of them. Give me Hines Ward or Marvin Harrison anyway.
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04-20-2005, 02:40 PM
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I wouldn't take either of them. Give me Hines Ward or Marvin Harrison anyway.
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Harrison is a product of Manning, hell 2 other WR's on his team put up as good if not better #'s
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04-20-2005, 02:48 PM
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Thats not the point. Any receiver is better than Moss and TO in my opinion.
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04-20-2005, 02:53 PM
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Thats not the point. Any receiver is better than Moss and TO in my opinion.
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Well you and ever NFL coach/scout/and GM have completely different veiwpoints. Did you see the NFL draft Special on sports center today? they asked the same quesiton to a handful of NFL coaches and they all said they would love to have both of them in a heart beat. This is why i dont respect your opinion. You are just a Fan
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04-20-2005, 02:53 PM
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TO is the most dominant WR in the NFL and this is coming from a Giants fanatic. Don't hate on him. If your team had him you'd luv him. Man to man, he'll eat it up. Zone, don't even insult him. The man is always open and unlike Moss he never takes a play off. He works so hard when he's on the field he makes QB's feel like it's a crime for not getting him the ball. Don't let all the media hype fool you, the man just want's his just deserve.
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04-20-2005, 02:54 PM
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TO is the most dominant WR in the NFL and this is coming from a Giants fanatic. Don't hate on him. If your team had him you'd luv him. Man to man, he'll eat it up. Zone, don't even insult him. The man is always open and unlike Moss he never takes a play off. He works so hard when he's on the field he makes QB's feel like it's a crime for not getting him the ball. Don't let all the media hype fool you, the man just want's his just deserve.
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TO is more Dominant than Randy? Go and ask some Corners about that
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04-20-2005, 02:58 PM
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i go TO cause randy never runs out to catch balls up the middle, that is important, randy is scared to take hits and that is why he doesnt run routs up the middle. He also runs out of bounds all the time.
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04-20-2005, 03:05 PM
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Thats not the point. Any receiver is better than Moss and TO in my opinion.
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Well you and ever NFL coach/scout/and GM have completely different veiwpoints. Did you see the NFL draft Special on sports center today? they asked the same quesiton to a handful of NFL coaches and they all said they would love to have both of them in a heart beat. This is why i dont respect your opinion. You are just a Fan
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Its not a queston of talent. They are the most talented receivers in the league. The only problem is that they are both cancer's to their respective teams. TO bashing McNabb and demanding more money . . . Moss walking off the field and constantly getting fined . . . not the type of guy I would want on my team. Guys like Torry Holt and Hines Ward are better becasue they are only a slight step down in talent from TO and Moss, but they come without the character issues and all the hassel.
Its my opinion, just the same as any of your opinions. You don't have to agree with it, but you don't have to bash it.
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04-20-2005, 03:08 PM
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Thats not the point. Any receiver is better than Moss and TO in my opinion.
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Well you and ever NFL coach/scout/and GM have completely different veiwpoints. Did you see the NFL draft Special on sports center today? they asked the same quesiton to a handful of NFL coaches and they all said they would love to have both of them in a heart beat. This is why i dont respect your opinion. You are just a Fan
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Its not a queston of talent. They are the most talented receivers in the league. The only problem is that they are both cancer's to their respective teams. TO bashing McNabb and demanding more money . . . Moss walking off the field and constantly getting fined . . . not the type of guy I would want on my team. Guys like Torry Holt and Hines Ward are better becasue they are only a slight step down in talent from TO and Moss, but they come without the character issues and all the hassel.
Its my opinion, just the same as any of your opinions. You don't have to agree with it, but you don't have to bash it.
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1) read the quotes about him "bashing" McNabb i wouldnt call it "bashing"
2) we dont know if he is demanding more money or not there is no official word on that
3) THE GAME WAS OVER
4) Him getting fined doesnt matter, he cant Fake moon? come on.
5) He isnt the type of player that you would want on your team. Well guess what you are not an NFL coach. NFL coaches, GM's and Owners do want those players on their team.
6) Ward and Hold couldnt hold Moss's Jock
7) Every NFL corner would agree with #6
 You dont even know these guys the media paints the piture they want.
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04-20-2005, 03:10 PM
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are you saying you dont think it is bad that he walked into the locker room??????? That shows he has no spirit for his team, you have to trade a player like that, i dont even know how the raiders took him.
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04-20-2005, 03:12 PM
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1) read the quotes about him "bashing" McNabb i wouldnt call it "bashing"
2) we dont know if he is demanding more money or not there is no official word on that
3) THE GAME WAS OVER
4) Him getting fined doesnt matter, he cant Fake moon? come on.
5) He isnt the type of player that you would want on your team. Well guess what you are not an NFL coach. NFL coaches, GM's and Owners do want those players on their team.
6) Ward and Hold couldnt hold Moss's Jock
7) Every NFL corner would agree with #6
You dont even know these guys the media paints the piture they want.
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You may be the only person that believes all that crap you just said.
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04-20-2005, 03:13 PM
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are you saying you dont think it is bad that he walked into the locker room??????? That shows he has no spirit for his team, you have to trade a player like that, i dont even know how the raiders took him.
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The Raiders took him because next year they'll win 11+ games.
And no the game was over. Randy didnt think there was anytime left on the clock and if you did all that you could to win like Randy Did and the rest of those bums on the vikings just gave it up like a bunch of scrubs you would be frustrated as well.
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04-20-2005, 03:17 PM
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The Raiders took him because next year they'll win 11+ games.
And no the game was over. Randy didnt think there was anytime left on the clock and if you did all that you could to win like Randy Did and the rest of those bums on the vikings just gave it up like a bunch of scrubs you would be frustrated as well.
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The Raiders won't win 11+ games until they get a defense. Look at the Colts, they are never gonna win anything until they get a defense either.
Why are you defensing Moss and TO? You act like his agent or something . . .
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04-20-2005, 03:20 PM
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The Raiders took him because next year they'll win 11+ games.
And no the game was over. Randy didnt think there was anytime left on the clock and if you did all that you could to win like Randy Did and the rest of those bums on the vikings just gave it up like a bunch of scrubs you would be frustrated as well.
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The Raiders won't win 11+ games until they get a defense. Look at the Colts, they are never gonna win anything until they get a defense either.
Why are you defensing Moss and TO? You act like his agent or something . . .
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When did i defend TO, the eagles average more points per game without him anyhow.
Randy Moss is the truth and Yes the raiders will win 11+ games, they are a very good team. You know, better than the bengals
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04-20-2005, 03:21 PM
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thank you xiomera, i noticed that too, and sasha, we all know the game was over and everyone would be frustrated but to walk out on your team, the bum didnt even have the patience to wait another 3 seconds?? How can you defend him
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04-20-2005, 03:22 PM
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thank you xiomera, i noticed that too, and sasha, we all know the game was over and everyone would be frustrated but to walk out on your team, the bum didnt even have the patience to wait another 3 seconds?? How can you defend him
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The Bum? Randy Moss has more talent and money than you'll ever have. Think about that
"straight cash homey"
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04-20-2005, 03:25 PM
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he has talent but if he continues to act the way he has been acting, that talents gonna go to waste, people dont wanna sign players with sorry attitiudes, and randy is one of those guys
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04-20-2005, 03:27 PM
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he has talent but if he continues to act the way he has been acting, that talents gonna go to waste, people dont wanna sign players with sorry attitiudes, and randy is one of those guys
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People dont want to sign him, On ESPN today 5 NFL coaches were on and they all said they would take TO and Randy in a heartbeat. So where did you get this information from? Oh... you are just a fan making a stupid statement. Congrats.
Randy is the best WR in the Game Period.
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04-20-2005, 03:29 PM
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i said i fhe continues to act how he is been acting, so know what you are saying before you say it
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04-20-2005, 03:31 PM
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i said i fhe continues to act how he is been acting, so know what you are saying before you say it
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How has he been acting? do you know him personally? All i know is that he dominates the game and his teammates cant carry their share. That can be frusterating.
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04-20-2005, 03:33 PM
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How has he been acting? do you know him personally? All i know is that he dominates the game and his teammates cant carry their share. That can be frusterating.
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Wait a second . . . do YOU know him personally? Didn't think so
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04-20-2005, 03:34 PM
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if thats all you know then you dont know much, he has a bad attitude, talks way too much trash, asks for so much money, gets fined like every game, and then he walks out on his team, thats how he has been acting, you really need to get your facts straight cause you obviously dont know what ur talkin about
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