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Old 10-20-2008, 06:15 AM    (permalink
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The statistics are there, but I don't know if he gets enough publicity. Most Falcons related positive news seems to focus more on Matt Ryan than anything else.
There are some positive articles on White. Lots of them talking about his consistent play. People started noticing him after a 1200 yard season last year. He is on pace for 1500 yards this season. A 2nd consistent season should be good I hope.
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There are some positive articles on White. Lots of them talking about his consistent play. People started noticing him after a 1200 yard season last year. He is on pace for 1500 yards this season. A 2nd consistent season should be good I hope.
Don't get me wrong, I think he is deserving. He has definitely stepped up his play the last few seasons. I think if the Falcons keep winning finish with an 8-8 or above record then he might get the publicity and media coverage to make the Pro Bowl. If the Falcons start to lose a few I'm just not sure he makes it over guys who have established names.
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Don't get me wrong, I think he is deserving. He has definitely stepped up his play the last few seasons. I think if the Falcons keep winning finish with an 8-8 or above record then he might get the publicity and media coverage to make the Pro Bowl. If the Falcons start to lose a few I'm just not sure he makes it over guys who have established names.
Yeah. I know you dont doubt him. Hopefully this early Falcon buzz along with him being 3rd in the NFL in receiving yards could turn some heads.
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There are some positive articles on White. Lots of them talking about his consistent play. People started noticing him after a 1200 yard season last year. He is on pace for 1500 yards this season. A 2nd consistent season should be good I hope.
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First off I never denied Cowboys players getting voted in just because, I never argued that point, I directly quoted you as saying "Jacob has better all around stats" now you want to argue how you don't throw to your Rb's thats why they don't have receptions, ok? Finally, I never not once said Barber was pro bowl worthy so lets not assume, I just said he is worthy of getting more votes then Jacobs up to this point, when did I say he deserved to go over Portis, AD, Turner etc?


You can keep using the Cowboy cop out if you want to, it's a lazy argument that people like to use when they don't have anything solid to go off of...Facts are you said Jacobs had better all around stats then Barber, that in itself has nothing to do with the rest of the NFC backs.
Well then it's my bad I am going with the premise that you think he is pro bowl worthy. If that's not the case then my bad, and also we have nothing to debate. Ok so he has more recpetions meaning Jacobs doesn't have more in that department. Then this whole debate is a waste of time for the both us. But my bad for interpreting in correctly.
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Nick Collins!!!!

He's been playing lights out this year. A blanket in coverage and he's making the biggest plays when we need them. Tied for first in interceptions and he ran 2 of them back for touchdowns.

I'm plugging him as much as I can because he has no name recognition and after 3 crappy developmental years he's finally breaking out.
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Yeah. I know you dont doubt him. Hopefully this early Falcon buzz along with him being 3rd in the NFL in receiving yards could turn some heads.

That's what I'm hoping. We need our guys to stay top 5 in things. I'm willing to bet most fans (other then the douchebags who only vote for guys on their team), looks at the NFL stat leaderboard when he makes a vote. So, naturally, if our guys are up there, they've got a better shot despite not being the "names".
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I'm going to just mention Brandon Jacobs for RB in the NFC, Portis is far and away the top RB in the NFL, but Jacobs is right behind him, 516 yards on 5.4 YPC with 6 TDs and only one fumble. And he's been an actual running back this year, being patient and showing vision instead of just trying to hurt people like last year. his blocking has been more consistent also, he still blows people up but now he's wiffing a lot less, still happens but it's much rarer. Best YPC amongst all RB in the top 20 yardage wise, 7th in total yards, 6th in yards per game, tied for fourth in TDs.

And Tuck's doing a good job although he's been inconsistent with 5 sacks, 2 FF 1 INT and a defensive TD.

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I'm going to just mention Brandon Jacobs for RB in the NFC, Portis is far and away the top RB in the NFL, but Jacobs is right behind him, 516 yards on 5.4 YPC with 6 TDs and only one fumble. And he's been an actual running back this year, being patient and showing vision instead of just trying to hurt people like last year. his blocking has been more consistent also, he still blows people up but now he's wiffing a lot less, still happens but it's much rarer. Best YPC amongst all RB in the top 20 yardage wise, 7th in total yards, 6th in yards per game, tied for fourth in TDs.

And Tuck's doing a good job although he's been inconsistent with 5 sacks, 2 FF 1 INT and a defensive TD.
There can only be 3 NFC RB's. Portis is a lock, AD is a lock probably will be top fan getter, for the last spot I am sure the Cowboys fans will send Barber over Jacobs. That isn't to say Barber isn't worthy though because he is, but yeah I'd still take Michael Turner over them because of how good the Falcons are and also I'd put Jacobs slightly above Barber. With fan voting however Barber will make it for sure. I mean he made it last year and didn't even rush for 1,000 yards. Also for that 3rd spot don't sleep on Frank Gore who leads the league in all purpose yards, or Steven Jackson if he continues his tear and the Rams end up with 7 or 8 wins. Too many good RB's, too few spots. Many deserving will be left out.
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Robert Gallery should see some consideration for Pro Bowl.Hes been playing at a Pro Bowl level this year.
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Robert Gallery should see some consideration for Pro Bowl.Hes been playing at a Pro Bowl level this year.
It took him a good, what, five years?
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Even though Roy William is out for the year, he'll still make the Pro Bowl. :D

For the Titans...

Offense:

Chris Johnson, RB - Currently leading the AFC in rushing yards and YPG (though he's only 5th in the AFC in amount of rushes). CJ's the only RB in the AFC with over 75 rushes that has averaged 5+ YPC. He also has yet to fumble the ball. He's done all of this while splitting carries with LenDale White too. The only downside to this is that LenDale gets the goal line carries, which will leave CJ with fewer TD's than some of the other AFC RB's.

*Ahmard Hall, FB - I know FB is pretty random, but Hall has been great all year and doesn't get enough credit for what he does for the running game. Not only is he an outstanding blocker, but he is also a very good receiver for a FB. Though, LeRon Mclain probably gets the nod due to his higher amount of rushes.

Michael Roos, LT - David Stewart, RT - They've been great since last season, and they deserve to go to Hawaii. Not only are they opening holes wide enough for LenDale White to run 80-yards, but they're also doing a tremendous job at protecting the QB: Kerry Collins has been sacked only ONCE this season! It's Kerry friggin' Collins for Pete's sake!!!

Defense:

Albert Haynesworth, NT - Best defensive player in the league, and likely DPOY winner.

Kyle Vanden Bosch, DE - He's only got 3 sacks so far, but is a key part to the best DL in the league. His name will certainly help in his campaign. Plus, voters inside and out of the NFL love his effort and motor, so that alone gives him an edge. Don't forget that KVB made the Pro Bowl last year over Mario Williams despite Williams having more sacks.

*Tony Brown, UT - Brown is one of the most under-rated UT's in the game, and that is greatly due to being over-shadowed by the surrounding stalwarts on his DL. Brown has notched 3.5 sacks this season which is 2nd most in the AFC by a DT (Haynesworth is #1), and has missed a game in the process. His name isn't as known throughout the NFL, but he is the 3rd best DL on the Titans defensive line and has made as many plays as AH and KVB this season.

Cortland Finnegan, CB - Finny is tied for 1st in the NFL in INT's with 4, and shares the lead in the AFC with team-mate Michael Griffin. He returned one of those for a TD, and has 100 return yards. Along with his picks, he has 7 PD's that ties him for 5th in the AFC, and his 2 stuffs are the most out of DB's with 2+ INT's. He's been outstanding this season in coverage, and is one of the best tackling CB's in the NFL.

Michael Griffin, FS - A rising star, Griff has exceeded expectations since his first start, and has the most talent of all the Titans DB's. As I stated before, his 4 INT's share the lead in the AFC with Finnegan. He's defended 6 passes this season, and even has 1 sack. His coverage abilities have allowed SS Chris Hope to play closer to the LOS where he excels. At this point, he may very well be playing better than the 1st RD safeties of the '07 Draft, which include LaRon Landry, Reggie Nelson, and Brandon Merriweather.


9 Pro Bowlers may be a bit excessive for the Titans, but this only halfway through the season and there's still a long way to go. Players with asterisks next to their names are players who are less likely to get in, but I felt they deserved a little recognition.
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There can only be 3 NFC RB's. Portis is a lock, AD is a lock probably will be top fan getter, for the last spot I am sure the Cowboys fans will send Barber over Jacobs. That isn't to say Barber isn't worthy though because he is, but yeah I'd still take Michael Turner over them because of how good the Falcons are and also I'd put Jacobs slightly above Barber. With fan voting however Barber will make it for sure. I mean he made it last year and didn't even rush for 1,000 yards. Also for that 3rd spot don't sleep on Frank Gore who leads the league in all purpose yards, or Steven Jackson if he continues his tear and the Rams end up with 7 or 8 wins. Too many good RB's, too few spots. Many deserving will be left out.
Portis is going if he continues his play, Turner should go, and the third back at this point has to be Peterson. Its a stacked year for NFC Runningbacks.
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Nick Collins!!!!

He's been playing lights out this year. A blanket in coverage and he's making the biggest plays when we need them. Tied for first in interceptions and he ran 2 of them back for touchdowns.

I'm plugging him as much as I can because he has no name recognition and after 3 crappy developmental years he's finally breaking out.
As well as Woodson, please. How can you know honestly?
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Turner over AD as of right now.
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Turner over AD as of right now.
how? their stats are pretty close and as of right now and AD is the more popular with people anyways.
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:53 AM    (permalink
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All I am going to say is if Chris Snee does not make the Pro Bowl this year it will be total horseshit. He could very well be the best RG in the game let alone the NFC. The man is just a beast, run blocks extremely well and just mauls people in the passing game, might be the MVP so far for the Giants.
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It took him a good, what, five years?
Better late than never.
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I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.
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Old 10-27-2008, 06:46 PM    (permalink
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It's a crime if Mario doesn't make it to the probowl this year. He is making a legitimate case for being the best defensive end in the NFL.
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Old 10-27-2008, 07:47 PM    (permalink
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Hopefully Charles Woodson makes it this year after the Al Harris debacle last year.
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