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I give the nod to Rodgers over Orton easily. I think you have to take into account his leadership this year and as much as I hate to use it in favor of Rodgers, the whole Brett Favre saga that led up to the season. He's handled it all well and performed at a high level. But unless Rodgers puts on the jets, no Favre reference intended, and gets to the top of any passing categories, I dont think he has a legitimate shot. Only because he doesnt have flashy numbers. But watching him play, he makes very few mistakes and shows great poise. Remember hes led this team without a running game to this point, once Grant gets going its going to be interesting to see what number Rodgers puts up. Ill give him an outside, very outside shot at MVP.
well like you said, neither deserves it right now, but how can you say that Rodgers deserves it more when A. they have nearly identical stats B. Rodgers is surrounded by better skill players C. you say his leadership, who do you think the leader of the Bear's offense is? Plus, Green Bay is defending NFC North Champions whereas the Bears were terrible last year. I don't mean to sound like a homer, but Orton has done more for the Bears than Rodgers has for the Pack
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Is there seriously a debate about who deserves it more between Orton and Rodgers happening right now?
No its a conversation, would you like to join?

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Surrounding players never have mattered in an MVP race, ever so thats out of the window. Im just saying that Rodgers is more valuable to the packers than Orton is to the bears. If the Pack loses Rodgers for and extended period of time, they are noticeably worse than the Bears would be if they lost Orton.
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MVP: Portis
OPOY: Brees
DPOY: Haynesworth
OROY: Chris Johnson
DROY: Chris Horton
Coach: Jim Zorn
CBPOY: Carlos Rogers

I look at it this way, if Portis were hurt the skins would be up sh#$t creek without a paddle and they wouldn't be 5-2...

If Brees got hurt they would probably be about where they are, 3-4 but with those stats he has to win something...

We saw last year that the Titans D isn't the same w/o Haynesworth in the middle and the fact he has 5 sacks alraedy as a NT is rediculous... Did they resign him yet? If not they better... Charles Woodson should be in the running for this award as well..

Chris Johnson is my pick because of how he's helped his team and what he has brought to that offense... This could change by years end because there are so many deserving rookies but I think he'll get it for somereason..

Horton is Troy Polamalu with dreads.. Case closed! =0)

Jim Zorn has done something that no one ever thought possible and if he continues and wins the division I think he is a shoe in. Also if Haslett and Fischer have a nice shot at it as well, especially Haslett if he can actually win that division.. They are only 2 games back right?

Carlos Rogers: Covers like Champ, hits like a Saftey, Catches like a parpalegic (SP?)... Coming off of a devastating Knee injury he deserves it more than anyone with the way he's played. Most underated CB in the NFL right now..
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Clinton Portis does it again, 175 yards and a TD against the Browns. BTW if your playing someone in your fantasy league who has Portis this week your screwed.......

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Portis vs. Lions defense = $$$$$
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Not until he has more TDs than Brett threw in one game. You should be ashamed of yourself, calling Trent the MVP is disrespectful to the fact that the Bills are winning as a true team.
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I'm not saying anything about Trent for MVP, but what is our record without him? It's not a plug-in JP and all systems are go operation.
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Whoa Whoa Whoa. Its not absurd to mention his name. He was Peter King's first Quarter MVP. He is getting the wins which is one of the most important keys to winning the MVP. Like SuperMcgee said, we would not be anything like we are today if Trent wasnt our QB right now. Trent is indeed one of the most valuable players.

Today on PTI during five good minutes they were talking to Trent on how he is in the MVP race. Yeah you can say Wilbon and Kornheiser know nothing, but he deserves some recognition. So to say I "Should be ashamed" is a little too excessive.
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MVP: Portis
OPOY: Brees
DPOY: Haynesworth
OROY: Chris Johnson
DROY: Chris Horton
Coach: Jim Zorn
CBPOY: Carlos Rogers

I look at it this way, if Portis were hurt the skins would be up sh#$t creek without a paddle and they wouldn't be 5-2...

If Brees got hurt they would probably be about where they are, 3-4 but with those stats he has to win something...


We saw last year that the Titans D isn't the same w/o Haynesworth in the middle and the fact he has 5 sacks alraedy as a NT is rediculous... Did they resign him yet? If not they better... Charles Woodson should be in the running for this award as well..

Chris Johnson is my pick because of how he's helped his team and what he has brought to that offense... This could change by years end because there are so many deserving rookies but I think he'll get it for somereason..

Horton is Troy Polamalu with dreads.. Case closed! =0)

Jim Zorn has done something that no one ever thought possible and if he continues and wins the division I think he is a shoe in. Also if Haslett and Fischer have a nice shot at it as well, especially Haslett if he can actually win that division.. They are only 2 games back right?

Carlos Rogers: Covers like Champ, hits like a Saftey, Catches like a parpalegic (SP?)... Coming off of a devastating Knee injury he deserves it more than anyone with the way he's played. Most underated CB in the NFL right now..
That's a joke right? We'd be winless, and it wouldn't be close. You expect Mark Brunell, Lance Moore, Mark Campbell, and Billy Miller to win with a mediocre defense?

I know you want to make a case for Portis, but saying we'd be 3-4 without Drew Brees is downright ********, and should be ban worthy.
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In my opinion, if the Titans can keep this ship afloat until week 17, then Haynesworth should be MVP. Won't happen, but he'll have earned the title.
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Do the Redskins play the Cheifs this year, I mean if LenWhale can go 80 yards on one play and like 130+ in one game Portis would have a chance at breaking ADs one game record
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Drew Brees still gets KC and Detroit. He might break Dan Marino's 5000 yard mark in just those two games.
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Drew Brees still gets KC and Detroit. He might break Dan Marino's 5000 yard mark in just those two games.
That is a very good point, I was making the Portis point in passing cause I think it would be awesome to watch, what are his stats right now??
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