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Old 10-14-2008, 03:02 AM    (permalink
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This is 3 games now I've seen him cheapshot the QB with no flag or fine.

Is he trying to end Careers?

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This is 3 games now I've seen him cheapshot the QB with no flag or fine.

Is he trying to end Careers?

That last one doesn't look fun. Palmer's injury instantly comes to mind.

Which reminds me.....what is a Steelers fan doing accusing another team of trying to end QB careers?

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The OLinemen was called for a hold on that play because he basically tackled Rogers, sending him falling into Eli's knee.
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The OLinemen was called for a hold on that play because he basically tackled Rogers, sending him falling into Eli's knee.
Yeah, I'm a Giants fan and it was completely Seubert (or O'hara) who held him into Eli. It was not Rogers fault at all for tackling low on that play.
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That last one doesn't look fun. Palmer's injury instantly comes to mind.
The difference being that Kimo was actually trying to not injure Palmer.

Looks near identical to brady's injury.

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So I guess it is safe to assume that you know when someone is trying to injure a player and when someone isn't. Good to know that you can read minds.
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Stiller, it's time to confront the other posts in the thread. Then crawl back into your hole when you realize that you failed at trying to make a divisional rival look bad.
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Eh, I'm sure the Lineman tackled him, But He clearly had no problem rolling INTO the knee, as opposed to the clear fall..

Much Like Wilforks Elbow to the knee last year no?

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Stiller, it's time to confront the other posts in the thread. Then crawl back into your hole when you realize that you failed at trying to make a divisional rival look bad.
WTF?

Seriously? I could give a crap about the Browns, They make themselves look bad, I don't need to bag on them.

I just think it's ridiculous this guy is getting free shots at QB's.

God forbid I have a ******* opinion.
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Eh, I'm sure the Lineman tackled him, But He clearly had no problem rolling INTO the knee, as opposed to the clear fall..

Much Like Wilforks Elbow to the knee last year no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g
No, it doesen't look anything like that play because Wilfork intentionally elbowed Losman as he was falling and Rogers was tackled into the Qb. Why would any defensive player go out of his way to try and avoid hitting the QB when it was the olinemen's force that propelled him towards the QB?
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WTF?

Seriously? I could give a crap about the Browns, They make themselves look bad, I don't need to bag on them.

I just think it's ridiculous this guy is getting free shots at QB's.

God forbid I have a ******* opinion.
Calm down Stiller.
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No, it doesen't look anything like that play because Wilfork intentionally elbowed Losman as he was falling and Rogers was tackled into the Qb. Why would any defensive player go out of his way to try and avoid hitting the QB when it was the olinemen's force that propelled him towards the QB?
I'm not saying they don't.. but look at the pics.

Rogers was far enough away that he could have made any effort to avoid attacking Mannings knee, but he went full on trying to roll into it as well..

When he's coming down he's in the front of the knee, hits on the side, rolls into the back of the knee.
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From the pictures it looks like he's pulling Eli's foot back which wouldn't hurt as much as him rolling onto his knee sideways with his body weight.
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Dude, his head is facing the ground in every frame, how does he know if the ball is out? Should he just assume its out and stop?
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If you're hitting a player who's standing still and not adjusting their body for the hit there's always going to be the potential for injury.
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Neither of Rogers hits on Manning were dirty. The play pictured above was a result of Rich Seubert tackling Rogers into Manning.
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I didn't think they were dirty either. In the first pic Seubert basically grabbed his leg and tackled him, causing him to fall forward into Eli's knee. I don't recall the other one.
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The difference being that Kimo was actually trying to not injure Palmer.

Looks near identical to brady's injury.

Funny how the blocker on his back looks nearly identical as well. He was clearly blocked into Manning on the play. I'm not a Browns fan really, although I love BE as a former Wolverine, but I'm sorry, that wasn't a dirty play.
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I didn't think they were dirty either. In the first pic Seubert basically grabbed his leg and tackled him, causing him to fall forward into Eli's knee. I don't recall the other one.
That was the only one I saw in the Giants Game. I know he's lowered his helmet into a chest twice this season.

Watching the replay I'd like to thank people for point out Seubert, I honestly didn't see him tackling him.. looked like he gave the old "Look out" Block
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That was the only one I saw in the Giants Game. I know he's lowered his helmet into a chest twice this season.

Watching the replay I'd like to thank people for point out Seubert, I honestly didn't see him tackling him.. looked like he gave the old "Look out" Block
Not that I definately know what two plays you're talking about, but wouldn't you rather have him plant his helmet in a chest than go helmet to helmet? I'm pretty sure that's kind of the general area where you might want your helmet as a defender. Or do you mean as he was taking them to the ground/had them on the ground? Because that would be a different story.
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The difference being that Kimo was actually trying to not injure Palmer.

Looks near identical to brady's injury.
Oh please...don't tell me you actually bought that act that Kimo did at the end of the play.
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Not that I definately know what two plays you're talking about, but wouldn't you rather have him plant his helmet in a chest than go helmet to helmet? I'm pretty sure that's kind of the general area where you might want your helmet as a defender. Or do you mean as he was taking them to the ground/had them on the ground? Because that would be a different story.
After the QB released the ball on both occasions, he took 2 steps and just Rhino'd the QB In the Chest/Shoulder area.

400Lbs in a small area, led with a helmet.. it's going to cause problems whether he drove them to the ground or not. But both times the QB "launched" For lack of a better term.
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Oh please...don't tell me you actually bought that act that Kimo did at the end of the play.
...You know that Kimo and Palmer were/are friends?

And If there was a guy in the league that I couldn't contemplate with intent to injure it would be him.

if he wasn't trying to get out of the way he would've landed on Palmer when he went down, not behind him.
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Wah wah wah wah wah.

Seriously dude. You come in, try to make a stink. And everyone tells you you're wrong.

Logical Options on why:

A) because they're all homers
B) because you're the smartest guy in the room
C) because you're completely blind (no offense to blind people)
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