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Old 11-03-2008, 10:31 AM    (permalink
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I definitely agree with Webster. I don't know what happened last year, but he has improved drastically from this point last year to right now.
We got rid of Tim Lewis who would play him 10 yards off the line of scrimmage, and Webster doesn't have the hips or agility to succeed with that type of a cushion. Now that he's allowed to press guys more he's infinitely more comfortable and effective, he's thinking less and just playing football.
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Jerry Porter plays both ways???? ZOMG!
Jerry Porter likes it both ways the best
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:33 AM    (permalink
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Ovie Mughelli FB Atlanta Falcons. The guy goes to work and destroys LBs leading the way for Turner and the Falcons vicious rushing attack. Everyone is getting credit in the turn around in Atlanta except him, he's played a big part in pass protection and in the run game. Impressive FB.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:34 AM    (permalink
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Ovie Mughelli FB Atlanta Falcons. The guy goes to work and destroys LBs leading the way for Turner and the Falcons vicious rushing attack. Everyone is getting credit in the turn around in Atlanta except him, he's played a big part in pass protection and in the run game. Impressive FB.
I thought Ovie was a top 5 run blocking FB in Baltimore and I'm sure that hasn't changed. Saw the box score, nice to see my boy JSnell got some carries. He is kind of a tweener, not a great blocker but lacks the speed to be a HB, but he is a solid short yardage option. I don't know what you guys list him as. Probably FB.
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I thought Ovie was a top 5 run blocking FB in Baltimore and I'm sure that hasn't changed. Saw the box score, nice to see my boy JSnell got some carries. He is kind of a tweener, not a great blocker but lacks the speed to be a HB, but he is a solid short yardage option. I don't know what you guys list him as. Probably FB.
I think he could play on a LOT of teams, and if he weren't in Atlanta he'd be getting more touches, the guy is what TJ Duckett was supposed to be. He's a monster doesn't wait, and just runs over players. He kills. I love watching him run the ball, it's nice for Atlanta because we're 4 backs deep (when Brown is healthy) that was a major area of interest for the Falcons in the preseason would we keep 4 backs or not, Snelling is way overlooked, he's leading the NFL in ST tackles this year, and it's not just shoestring tackles either, he's a hitter. But his ability to play FB and RB make him a great weapon for the Falcons, Snelling gets on the field quite a bit already spelling Ovie. Don't wanna turn this into a Falcons thread, but Snelling is a beast.
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I definitely agree with Webster. I don't know what happened last year, but he has improved drastically from this point last year to right now.
I can't explain it either. Im shocked as well. He's playing like a top 5 CB in the league this year. Amazing turnaround since the playoffs last year.
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If it's possible to name someone from the Bengals it would have to be Chinedum Ndukwe. The 7th RD draft pick has been an absolute steal ever since being drafted.
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Kurt Warner for sure.
D'Qwell Jackson?
Wes Welker. Even with Brady out he's producing.
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Yep, not because he's good or anything...I wish people would stop crying about guys not getting in the pro bowl before it even happened, if Barber makes it it's because he's a good player deal with it, coaches and players can vote too...Cry when Barber makes an All-Pro team over Frank Gore.
I didn't say Barber wasn't good, just that he isn't as good as Gore.
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As the Bengals fan before me stated, Chinedum Ndukwe has been very good for us, and he's still learning. I don't like Dexter Jackson, but I think he's made the Bengals better through tutoring Ndukwe.

Still, I have a different name to add from the Bengals, where bright spots have been hard to come by.

I'm referring to rookie DT Pat Sims, who has been excellent since activated. Sims, along with Domata Peko, have taken away the need to draft a Defensive Tackle in 2009. In all of four games, Pat Sims has recorded 17 Tackles (13 solo) and a sack. This has been in part-time duty. He looks to have a bright future with the Bengals.
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A Redskins fan posting reminded me to mention Carlos Rogers. He's been really good this year. If he didn't have stone hands, he'd have at least a half dozen picks, and he's doing a good job in coverage.
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A Redskins fan posting reminded me to mention Carlos Rogers. He's been really good this year. If he didn't have stone hands, he'd have at least a half dozen picks, and he's doing a good job in coverage.
Yea I tried to stay homer free but you are right he is having his best season by far and its funny cause hes coming back from a season ending knee injury. Don't know why he can't catch an int but at least he is shutting down some of the leagues best with Springs being out so much. I hope he can win most improved or comeback player of the year.
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I'd have to say Kerry Collins is doing a great job not losing the Titans games, but I would say the runningbacks on that team are underrated.

As for a homer pick, Shaun Rogers for a third rounder and Leigh Bodden? I think we made out pretty damn well on that deal.
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Webster and Robbins. Robbins has took a huge step in improving even more this season. Now we have steady inside pressure to go along with Kiwi, Tuck, and Tollefson.
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Charles Godfrey is underrated, though I agree with Chris Gamble. Godfrey comes to play every game and is a big part of the reason why our defense is number 3 overall for points allowed.
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Ron Bartell

Might seem like a homer but you try covering Lee Evans, Santana Moss, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald in the span of 5 weeks.
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Wes Welker. Even with Brady out he's producing.
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Ask anybody who watches browns games and theyll tell you his tackle numbers are misleading as hell, hes terrible in pass coverage and takes brutal angles if anything hes overated.
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How about Atlanta CB Brent Grimes?

A 2nd year player out of a very small school, Shippensburg. He may not be playing like a Pro Bowler, but he's removing Atlanta's need to draft a CB high in next year's draft or go after a high-profile free agent. Grimes has flown under the radar and is playing solid football for an Atlanta team that was thought to have no chance at six wins this season.

32 Tackles (30 Solo) 3 TFL 6 PD and 1 Int.

That's one.


Kevin Walter, WR, Houston Texans

- Walter is a bit older than Grimes and has already spent time with a couple other teams, but he's been playing some good football in Andre Johnson's shadow. The former Cincinnati special teams ace is producing this year as a receiver. At only 27 though, you have to ask what the future could bring for the tough wideout.

33 rec 410 yds 12.4 avg 5 Td thus far

This after a year in which he compiled 800 yards. He doesn't have what it takes to be #1, but you could be looking at the next Joe Jurevicius. He's a solid #2 in Houston and could be the 3rd receiver almost anywhere the way he's playing.


My third and final for right now is Le'Ron McClain in Baltimore.

McClain is a second year RB/FB in Baltimore. I loved McClain at Alabama, and it hurt to see him go to a division rival. Still, it surprises me to see McClain used this actively and this successfully by the Ravens. He's now lining up as a Running Back most times and is used to wear down the opposing defense. This is working for McClain and the Ravens, seeing as he has been producing...

92 car 347 yds 5 Td; 14 rec 82 yds.

McClain is second on the team in scoring, behind only Kicker, Matt Stover. He hasn't had a breakout 100 yard game yet, but that's not his job. His job is to wear down opposing defenses so that Willis McGahee and Ray Rice can break big runs. Disturbingly, for me as a Bengals fan, this works. While McClain too isn't a Pro Bowler, his work has gone relatively uncredited. To me, he's the reason the Baltimore run game has a pulse in addition to being a nice security blanket out of the backfield.
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Ask anybody who watches browns games and theyll tell you his tackle numbers are misleading as hell, hes terrible in pass coverage and takes brutal angles if anything hes overated.
Yeah, I haven't seen any full browns games this year that's why I put a question mark next to his name. I figured there was a reason that he had those numbers and no one said one bit about him.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:20 PM    (permalink
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How about Atlanta CB Brent Grimes?

A 2nd year player out of a very small school, Shippensburg. He may not be playing like a Pro Bowler, but he's removing Atlanta's need to draft a CB high in next year's draft or go after a high-profile free agent. Grimes has flown under the radar and is playing solid football for an Atlanta team that was thought to have no chance at six wins this season.

32 Tackles (30 Solo) 3 TFL 6 PD and 1 Int.

That's one.
Sorry, he's not even our Nickel Corner anymore. The player who is making us not need to draft a corner next year is Foxworth. Chevis Jackson has played some really good football from the nickel spot, and a light came on for Chris Houston in the Kansas City game. I like Grimes, he's just too easy to pick on at 5'8. He has that many tackles because he can't stop the WRs from getting the ball. I like the guy a lot and had high hopes, but Foxworth has played lights out 2 weeks in a row as the starter.
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