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Old 11-04-2008, 07:49 PM    (permalink
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Typical typical typical. The masses rush to judgment based off one highlighted play. Silly.

Yes, the reaction of Jenkins was terrible. There should be no excuses. But c'mon. He was caught on tape so he got exposed. Guys give less effort on some plays more than others. It's natural. It's unavoidable. It's called recovering. ...and let's get one thing straight. Jenkins didn't give up that TD all by himself. The whole Dallas defense struggled.

One good play doesn't make the player and one bad play doesn't either. The overreaction on this forum makes me laugh.

So for the guys who make their judgments off one play... Tell me... What did you think of his pick 6?
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what pick 6? lol
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Yeah he's awful alright. Are you serious? geez, someone obviously isnt watching the games if you think he is awful. He has played very well for a rookie and has shown flashes of excellence. He is going to be fantastic in the long run.

When your offense takes you out of the game...defensive players sometimes roll over and that's what happened here. He's a young player who made a mistake but, he is by no means an awful player and he is certainly a 1st round talent...who still fell to us.
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So for the guys who make their judgments off one play... Tell me... What did you think of his pick 6?
That was a gimme. Eli Manning underthrew Plax by ten yards. I can't believe Cowboy fans want to let someone off the hook who showed a complete lack of effort. That's sad.
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That was a gimme. Eli Manning underthrew Plax by ten yards. I can't believe Cowboy fans want to let someone off the hook who showed a complete lack of effort. That's sad.
...You realize at USF Mike Jenkins never had ANY heart issues right? Oh, you're just going to spew bull? That's cool too.
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That was a gimme. Eli Manning underthrew Plax by ten yards. I can't believe Cowboy fans want to let someone off the hook who showed a complete lack of effort. That's sad.
Jenkins made a read on the play before Eli even threw the ball. Not a lot of rookies could have done that.
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That was a gimme. Eli Manning underthrew Plax by ten yards. I can't believe Cowboy fans want to let someone off the hook who showed a complete lack of effort. That's sad.
A complete gimme? Wow. What a joke. Watch it again. Jenkins closed in on that pass like a speeding missle.
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I cant believe someone is calling him awful after seeing one bad play. Why dont you actually watch him play a full game. He probably has the best feet of any corner on the team and has done a fine job of filling in. He is a hell of a talent and they got on him for this. That had to be one of the dumbest things I've heard on this board in a while. Mike Jenkins is a 1st round talent through and through, who could have went a lot higher. ughhhh.

and who ever questioned his heart?
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Now if you wanna criticize someone... Who else saw Bradie James taking out his own teammates? hahaha... he was such a clown.
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meh...Tank does it all the time.
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Talib has played a lot of man this year. That is why the Buccaneers chose him. For whatever reason they are starting to get away from running a pure Tampa 2.

He is a "big corner that can play some bump and run". He can also play the corner by giving him major cushion. Often being placed on the other team's #1 receiver.

Kiffin on drafting Talib, "It had nothing to do with the system....you can't play Tampa 2 all day.....the thing about Talib is that he can run, you can't teach size and speed".

He has shown that he can play on some of the better receivers such as Terrell Owens. (It wasn't all Brad Johnson's fault, Aqib took away a lot of good passes)

People need to quit using the system against him. He is a better corner than Jenkins....get over it.
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That was a gimme. Eli Manning underthrew Plax by ten yards. I can't believe Cowboy fans want to let someone off the hook who showed a complete lack of effort. That's sad.
Dude, even if Plax turned around it was going to be a battle for the ball. He jumped that route perfectly. He guessed right and it payed off.
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I cant believe someone is calling him awful after seeing one bad play. Why dont you actually watch him play a full game. He probably has the best feet of any corner on the team and has done a fine job of filling in. He is a hell of a talent and they got on him for this. That had to be one of the dumbest things I've heard on this board in a while. Mike Jenkins is a 1st round talent through and through, who could have went a lot higher. ughhhh.

and who ever questioned his heart?
Banner or ROP was just making stuff up and getting his facts wrong. He said their was a knock on his heart coming out of college, I corrected him by saying the knock was on him for playing down to the competition.
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...You realize at USF Mike Jenkins never had ANY heart issues right? Oh, you're just going to spew bull? That's cool too.
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Banner or ROP was just making stuff up and getting his facts wrong. He said their was a knock on his heart coming out of college, I corrected him by saying the knock was on him for playing down to the competition.
Wasn't me.

but playing down to competition???????
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but playing down to competition???????
Yeah, the knock was that when USF played scrubs he didn't do much. When he played against more touted receivers he turned it on.
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Well I've seen every game Mike Jenkins has played in the last two years (collegiate) and no, a lack of heart was not really evident. Did he play down to the competition sometimes? Yes but, that is going to happen when he is so much better than the level of talent he was typically up against and yes he played a little lackadaisically at times...but, his heart should never be questioned. He is one of the hardest working guys out there, he loves what he does, and he lead by example while at USF.

It was one play...yes all of us fans REALLY disliked it but, it was one play and the coaches have chewed him out for it. If you think this has been or will become a weekly occurence, then you're mistaken. Moving on...
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haha... yeah... but at least he doesn't run sideline to sideline cleaning out his teammates. haha.
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haha... yeah... but at least he doesn't run sideline to sideline cleaning out his teammates. haha.
What's worse is on the other side of the ball when...Colombo or Leonard Davis knock Barber on his butt. ugh. haha. Colombo has "tackled" Barber like 4 times this year.
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I hate to say it, but you guys should quit defending Jenkins. That play was the ultimate embodiment of the problems with our team, and it has trickled all the way down from our head coach. Once you create an atmosphere where people aren't accountable to the people who are their REAL bosses (the fans), then **** goes south fast. Jenkins should have been immediately pulled from the game, fined an exorbitant amount, and benched for at least one game. And I don't care if you have to bring in Pete Hunter off the street to take his place. Its inexcusable to give up on a play like that. And its chicken ****. Quit making excuses.

Now, does this make him a bad player? No, it doesn't. He's been fair so far, and has improved by leaps and bounds the last 2 weeks. He seems to be figuring it out right now, coverage wise. Everyone who says that this one play is proof of him being a poor player is just as stupid as people trying to defend his indefensible lack of heart.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:53 AM    (permalink
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I hate to say it, but you guys should quit defending Jenkins. That play was the ultimate embodiment of the problems with our team, and it has trickled all the way down from our head coach. Once you create an atmosphere where people aren't accountable to the people who are their REAL bosses (the fans), then **** goes south fast. Jenkins should have been immediately pulled from the game, fined an exorbitant amount, and benched for at least one game. And I don't care if you have to bring in Pete Hunter off the street to take his place. Its inexcusable to give up on a play like that. And its chicken ****. Quit making excuses.

Now, does this make him a bad player? No, it doesn't. He's been fair so far, and has improved by leaps and bounds the last 2 weeks. He seems to be figuring it out right now, coverage wise. Everyone who says that this one play is proof of him being a poor player is just as stupid as people trying to defend his indefensible lack of heart.
This is a great post.

No one could spin that play.

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I hate to say it, but you guys should quit defending Jenkins. That play was the ultimate embodiment of the problems with our team, and it has trickled all the way down from our head coach. Once you create an atmosphere where people aren't accountable to the people who are their REAL bosses (the fans), then **** goes south fast. Jenkins should have been immediately pulled from the game, fined an exorbitant amount, and benched for at least one game. And I don't care if you have to bring in Pete Hunter off the street to take his place. Its inexcusable to give up on a play like that. And its chicken ****. Quit making excuses.

Now, does this make him a bad player? No, it doesn't. He's been fair so far, and has improved by leaps and bounds the last 2 weeks. He seems to be figuring it out right now, coverage wise. Everyone who says that this one play is proof of him being a poor player is just as stupid as people trying to defend his indefensible lack of heart.
I still think this is an overreaction. Does anyone here solely blame him for the TD?

Yeah, we want our players to be all "rah rah" 100% of the time. Bottom line, these players are human. Our team was at the point where they felt demoralized. On the field and off the field. All of them were moping with their heads down. Was the game within reach? No. Was it an insignificant TD? Yes.

Jenkins is going to be a great player.
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