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Old 11-04-2008, 08:04 PM    (permalink
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Yes. How could I forget their combined 9 catches in 4 games?
You don't get it.
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If Oakland really goes through with cutting Hall, I will really believe that the Raiders do not care about winning.
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As for Baltimore fans I don't know how well Fabs is doing but if you had to ask me whos the better corner I'd take Fabs anyday over this loser.
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have you seen DeAngelo Hall play? He was overrated in ATL, but at least he was a good/above average CB (not top 5 or top 10) but this season he is flat out terrible.

I've actually seen DeAngelo play about every game of his NFL career. Thank you for asking. This overrated thing is becoming annoying. He made the Pro-Bowl one year because of name recognition and he shouldn't have. Then he didn't make it last year when he should have. So, should we call every player who makes an undeserving pro-bowl once in their careers overrated? That would be a long list my friend.
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If Oakland really goes through with cutting Hall, I will really believe that the Raiders do not care about winning.
How do you come to that conclusion?He's one of the many reasons this team sucks.
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Joey Galloway and Steve Smith say hi!
Hall owned them both on a consistent basis. Galloway had one nice touchdown catch on a slant and go/ sluggo, and Smith got into his head. But neither of them got open on him much.
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You don't get it.

I suppose not. The fact that Galloway beat him on a sluggo? The fact that Smith is an annoying maggot who got under Hall's skin and got the better of him? I'm not sure what your driving it, but his blowup is pretty publicized, but never the fact he held Smith to 1 catch for 10 yards that game.
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If Oakland really goes through with cutting Hall, I will really believe that the Raiders do not care about winning.
Hall has 4.3 speed, Al Davis wouldn't cut him, remember the Raiders scout staff consists of a stop watch.
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I wasn't being serious.

I can't believe I have to say it.
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Just curious, do you think the Browns would look at bringing him in?
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this means oakland is gonna pick Jenkins or Davis knowing how Al Davis drafts a DB any time he has an excuse to in the first round, right?
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I wasn't being serious.

I can't believe I have to say it.

My apologies. With some of the ignorant posts in this thread about DeAngelo, it was hard to tell.
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Just curious, do you think the Browns would look at bringing him in?
seriously doubt it. don't have cap room for 2008 anyhow. the starting corners in cleveland are good, we need a nickel though, they aren't gonna bring in a high profile corner like that anytime soon.
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My apologies. With some of the ignorant posts in this thread about DeAngelo, it was hard to tell.
He's a great talent with a bad head on his shoulders.

He'll be picked up.
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Hall has 4.3 speed, Al Davis wouldn't cut him, remember the Raiders scout staff consists of a stop watch.
Huff,Routt,and Branch all run in the 4.3s to.Not to mention they're all better than Hall.
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Oh my god! Looks like we got a 2nd rounder for free.

I honestly wouldn't mind signing him. He is about the same talent level as our players anyway.
Are you serious? Do you remember what it was like when DeAngelo Hall was in Atlanta? He was a team cancer, and he had no respect for the coaches. What makes you think he'll be different? He's a headcase, and he's not worth a roster spot on this team.

And I'm not worried we'll be signing him, because I doubt he'll pass Dimitroff's personality test anyways, which is why we traded him in the first place.
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Just curious, do you think the Browns would look at bringing him in?
That wouldn't be a bad idea considering the Browns defense is awful, awful, its just awful. I was thinking of the Titans (homerism) but I don't see it happening since the Pacman fiasco. Best fits would be Dallas (jerry loves himself speed), Cleveland, Minnesota (someone needs to play opposite Winfield) and what about Denver, try to take control of that weak AFC West and losing Champ Bailey?
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The Patriots should bring him in. He would be an absolute star there.

If he gos to the Browns or a team like that then he will be lackluster.
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Didn't the Falcons use that pick from the Deangelo Hall trade as the primary basis for moving up to get Sam Baker? If so, really nice.
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Are you serious? Do you remember what it was like when DeAngelo Hall was in Atlanta? He was a team cancer, and he had no respect for the coaches. What makes you think he'll be different? He's a headcase, and he's not worth a roster spot on this team.

And I'm not worried we'll be signing him, because I doubt he'll pass Dimitroff's personality test anyways, which is why we traded him in the first place.
He had no respect for Petrino, and I dont blame him. Did he have trouble with Mora? I do not remember so. And his last year in Atlanta, he allowed 1 (maybe 2) TDs.

But I agree. I dont think he will pass TD test either. Who knows. Maybe Oakland was a humbling experience. He needs a winning team with coaches he can play for but still have him in line. Petrino was definitely not one of them.
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I just saw the link on espn and they have added, Javon Walker as well who might be cut.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3683124
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I just saw the link on espn and they have added, Javon Walker as well who might be cut.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3683124
Alright.. so who else did they give a big contract to this season? Maybe they'll cut Tommy Kelly!
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I just saw the link on espn and they have added, Javon Walker as well who might be cut.

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I heard they might cut Tommy Kelly too actually.
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I heard they might cut Tommy Kelly too actually.
Where? Why?

Kelly has easily been Oakland's best defensive lineman this season. He's played some really strong games, and this is with missing almost all of training camp and a lot of the preseason. He was one of the biggest factors in the win over the Jets.

Kelly has been exactly what I expected him to be.
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