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Old 11-06-2008, 10:09 PM    (permalink
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To Jimmy, Eric Weddle is leading our defense in tackles. Does that mean hes the best defensive player on our team? Or are we just getting beat and Weddle has to make the tackle every play.
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To Jimmy, Eric Weddle is leading our defense in tackles. Does that mean hes the best defensive player on our team? Or are we just getting beat and Weddle has to make the tackle every play.
Oh for sure. That means Weddle >> Bob Sanders, LaRon Landry & Ed Reed
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Well, Gocong sucks... ALOT. However, Omar Gaither's and Stewart Bradley's awesomeness help make up for some of the suckitude.
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Dansby's number are better
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Not that this matters or is relevant to this discussion, but I've noticed they didn't count Ware's FF on his strip sack of Marc Bulger on any website...

How many "big stats" like these get missed?
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Dansby's number are better
Dansby with more play time has 20 more tackles and 1 less sack.

I bet Timmons would have upwards of 50 tackles and 7-8 Sacks if he were starting fulltime.
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To Jimmy, Eric Weddle is leading our defense in tackles. Does that mean hes the best defensive player on our team? Or are we just getting beat and Weddle has to make the tackle every play.
dj williams wasn't playing well at the expense of others. williams is a linebacker, and unlike weddle, isnt getting tackles at the expense of others getting beat, he's a linebacker. you miss the point of the tackles stat. it is simply an added bonus to the fact that he has been playing very well, and simply is able to wrap up and misses few when he gets an opportunity. he is great in pursuit, and in this instance the tackle stat only reinforces the player DJ is. the stat alone does not define his season, he's been playing great most plays regardless of how many tackles he makes

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Well, Gocong sucks... ALOT. However, Omar Gaither's and Stewart Bradley's awesomeness help make up for some of the suckitude.
Gocong is good near the LOS against the run. Sometimes, the Eagles try to have him cover, and that is an epic fail.
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I bet Timmons would have upwards of 50 tackles and 7-8 Sacks if LaMarr Woodley didn't get all of the sacks
Fixed that for you.
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I think it's midway through page two that these threads turn into a homer-fest. Id love to throw Barnett or Hawk out there but I cant convince myself to accept the way theyve been playing this year.
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Old 11-07-2008, 03:39 PM    (permalink
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I thought Nick Barnett was a top 2 4-3 MLB.. but Lewis is back to his 2000 or close form ... and some other guys are stepping up.
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I dont think he is close to his 2000 form, but he is back in terms of being a elite MLB.
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He was/is, but he sure hasn't been playing like it this season.
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He was/is, but he sure hasn't been playing like it this season.
Yea, Barnett has not been himself this year at all. Could be one reason why our run defense has been so bad.
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:42 PM    (permalink
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Dhani Jones and Karlos Dansby have played well.
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I've watched a few of the Titans games this year and David Thornton seems to be playing very well this year. Seems like Haynesworth, D-line and Cortland Finnegan are getting all the credit for the units great success. The LBs have played very well IMO and don't get credit that they should.
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Its too bad Manny Lawson hasn't lived up to his potential. I could have seen him on these lists...
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Michael Boley needs to be blitzed more. Maybe put on some more weight too. He is still doing a good job in coverage though.
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I've watched a few of the Titans games this year and David Thornton seems to be playing very well this year. Seems like Haynesworth, D-line and Cortland Finnegan are getting all the credit for the units great success. The LBs have played very well IMO and don't get credit that they should.
Poor ol' Keith Bulluck can't even get a top 10 mention from anyone :P And this is for one of the top rated OLB's in Madden! I actually think Thornton has surpassed him but Keith is usually a popular choice in "most underrated" threads - I guess he really is, by the people who say he is underrated no less. I mean yeah, if noone is going to rate him well, then I guess he is underrated :P
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Thornton has been lights out this season.

Nevertheless, Bulluck has been the most consistently productive LB in the NFL entering this season - and that includes ILB's and WLB's in all schemes whether 4-3 or 3-4.

I did the averages a long time ago, and I think only Julian Peterson was closest.
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I'm pretty sure that has to go to Ray Lewis, London Fletcher, or Derrick Brooks. Not Keith Bulluck, although he is good.
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Two or three years ago sure throw bulluck on there maybe even top 3 if its OLB only, however hes slowed down alot and other than that huge 3 int game last year against the colts hasnt been dominant in a while.
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He was/is, but he sure hasn't been playing like it this season.
No way has Barnett ever been a top 2 4-3 MLB. Before this year he has always been one of the best MLB's in the league but top 2 is way overating him.
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Last season he was top 2. Overall he's probably top 7.
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I know its a more limited role but how has Takeo Spikes looked this year? is he totally washed up or can he still make a play here or there
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