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Old 11-07-2008, 03:52 PM    (permalink
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Now that Wimbley has been in league for 2 and half seasons I think that this is a fair question to ask. I loved this guy coming our of Florida State and thought that he'd be a great fit in a 3-4 scheme. After racking up 11 sacks in his rookie season I thought that he was on his way to becoming possably the next great young passrusher in the NFL. Wimbley since his rookie has only recorded 7 sacks. Wimbley is a very talented guy and it's hard to believe that he's been struggling so badly. I fear that he may never match his production of his rookie season and that he may have been a one year wonder like Michael Clayton.

Does anyone think that he'll turn it around or is he a bust?
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As a Browns fan that gets to watch him do nothing constantly I would say yes, but our linebackers are a joke and hes the only real pass rusher, so I don't know if it really hurts him not having another true pass rusher.
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Seems to me he hasn't had a good enough teacher. He doesn't have very many passrushing moves and can only beat the OT by a shoulder dip. If his LBer or the D-line coach could teach him something else he might start producing numbers again. Quite plainly, teams have figured him out.
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He lacks moves, and plays on one of the worst defenses in the league.

As much as he's contributing to the team not being a monster..

1) His DC is not schemeing for him to get "3-4 Scheme sacks)
2) He doesn't have a great back 4 or top notch front 3.

As much as everyone loved the Shaun Rogers move, and yes he's been a solid but, this defense just is weak all around.

The defense has so many holes exploited that, teams don't have to key in to beat them.
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He had 11 sacks as a rookie man...Wait till next year and see how he plays...I wanna know why Leon Williams doesnt see the field more often...Does he suck??? Or is Romeo a tard??
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He had 11 sacks as a rookie man...Wait till next year and see how he plays...I wanna know why Leon Williams doesnt see the field more often...Does he suck??? Or is Romeo a tard??
How much more time does he need? He's been in NFL for 2 and half seasons. Usually by the second or third year you have a good feel if a draft pick is going to pan out or not.
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Look at Carlos Rogers...I hated that man w/ a passion...To the point where I thought he was the worst CB in the league...Now he is shutting WR's down...So dont be too quick to call him a bust...
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Look at Carlos Rogers...I hated that man w/ a passion...To the point where I thought he was the worst CB in the league...Now he is shutting WR's down...So dont be too quick to call him a bust...
Rogers may be playing better but he still is having issues catching the ball.
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What does that have to do w/ his coverage abilities???
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what does that have to do with the question?
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I think with the big front that the Browns have, anchored by Shaun Rogers, that I would rush Wimbley on every single play. But I would try to rush him from all around the field relatively speaking, ex. get him some looks at the right tackle, rush the interior, etcetera. Keep the offense on its toes a bit, when they (other than the left tackle) might not think they'd see a lot of him going in.

Maybe that's the case in Cleveland, I can't say I really know much of how their defense operates. I know that I'd like to see them be a bit more aggressive, if they are going to get burned down the field anyways then bring a various blitzer that the offense can't get ahold of.

As for Wimbley, I'll give him through his fourth season. Mainly thanks to the promise he showed as a rookie.
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I don't think he has completely stunk up the joint or anything. He isn't a complete bust by any means.
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He plays on a team that has one of the worst defenses in the NFL, so he is not getting much help. Like it was said, he had 11 sacks his rookie season so no he isn't a bust yet, he has produced before and I'm sure he could do it again. I'd give him 1-2 more seasons extra before I call him a bust just because he produced his rookie season.

Also I think the word bust is thrown around way to much, Wimbley is not a bust as long as he is starting, he is just disappointing. Now if he were to get benched and then got cut, then I might use the word bust to describe him. When I hear the word bust I think Mike Williams, Charles Rogers and Peter Warrick type deals.

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I think u mean Charles Rogers
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what does that have to do with the question?
I think the point is that it doesn't make a corner a bust because he can't catch.
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Yeah I would not say a bust since he is still starting. He really needs to learn some more moves, and have a DC that makes packages for him.
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I think the point is that it doesn't make a corner a bust because he can't catch.
well. it certainly is a good thing

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wimbley is no bust. i'd give him a full 4 years before calling him that... it's not like he doesn't try, he's just in re-learning mode.
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yes, but what im referring to is that just because he thought Rogers was one of the worst CBs in the league....Wimbley is a total different situation
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How much more time does he need? He's been in NFL for 2 and half seasons. Usually by the second or third year you have a good feel if a draft pick is going to pan out or not.
Again, He's on a terrible defense.

The 3-4 needs a strong DL.. look at the best 3-4 Defenses...

Pitt, Baltimore, SD, NE.. have great DL's..

But Cleveland is weak on all levels of that defense to the point where they don't have to worry about Wimbley.

Plus I don't think he's being coached... 2.5 years and he hasn't added a Bullrush, spinmove or anything is kind of disheartening, I'd say the coaching Failed Wimbley thus far.
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Again, He's on a terrible defense.

The 3-4 needs a strong DL.. look at the best 3-4 Defenses...

Pitt, Baltimore, SD, NE.. have great DL's..

But Cleveland is weak on all levels of that defense to the point where they don't have to worry about Wimbley.

Plus I don't think he's being coached... 2.5 years and he hasn't added a Bullrush, spinmove or anything is kind of disheartening, I'd say the coaching Failed Wimbley thus far.

Coaching has failed that defense
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I think the point is that it doesn't make a corner a bust because he can't catch.
Thats exactly my point...
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