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Old 11-07-2008, 08:41 PM    (permalink
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I'd love for him to come to NY and actually get someone to teach him a pass rush move other than the just running around the edge and dipping the shoulder. He's no bust although he hasn't progressed like he should've I blame the coaching entirely and would love to see him get an actually good mentor.
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I'd love for him to come to NY and actually get someone to teach him a pass rush move other than the just running around the edge and dipping the shoulder. He's no bust although he hasn't progressed like he should've I blame the coaching entirely and would love to see him get an actually good mentor.
I wonder if Willie McGinest took him under his wing.
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I wonder if Willie McGinest took him under his wing.
even if he did McGinest's pass rush repetoire is only marginally more advanced than Joey Porter's, and porter's is in turn only marginally more advanced than Wimbley's.
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I'm not giving up on Wimbley quite yet. But it's not looking good so far.
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yep, he's a bust. 11 sacks as a rookie, jack squat since. still time to pull a calvin pace though.
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If the Browns had another guy rushing the passer on the other side, he will be solid. So I say no.
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If the Browns had another guy rushing the passer on the other side, he will be solid. So I say no.
Yeah, Willie McGinest, seriously ? You don't need another coach on the field. Get this stud some real help.
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Yeah, Willie McGinest, seriously ? You don't need another coach on the field. Get this stud some real help.
I also dont think it helps that most of his defensive line are pass rushers and cant really hold the point of attack. Outside of Rogers and Wimbley, I wouldnt want anyone from that defense.
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yep, he's a bust. 11 sacks as a rookie, jack squat since. still time to pull a calvin pace though.
everyone is SO quick to draw this kinda ****.

The learning curve for the average nfl player is 3-4 years. If you have a good rookie year, it doesn't mean you're exempt from said learning curve.
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he's a one dimensional speed rusher who has one move. He gets pressure sometimes, but not enough and almost never gets sacks or tfls anymore. The Browns linebackers in general are pretty lousy. Wimbley is a bust so far, he hasn't done anything since his rookie year at all. His sack against Denver was when Clady blocked the guy outside of him thinking Hamilton would block Wimbley, but wimbley went unblocked. Not many plays where you are unblocked.
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he's a one dimensional speed rusher who has one move. He gets pressure sometimes, but not enough and almost never gets sacks or tfls anymore. The Browns linebackers in general are pretty lousy. Wimbley is a bust so far, he hasn't done anything since his rookie year at all. His sack against Denver was when Clady blocked the guy outside of him thinking Hamilton would block Wimbley, but wimbley went unblocked. Not many plays where you are unblocked.
so far. i think that's a key word...

you also have to recognize how BAD the browns defense looks.
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I don't think he is a complete bust, but he isn't all he was cracked up to be.

I know people on this board were saying he could and would be better than DeMarcus Ware.

I never see that happening, but he could be a 10 sack/year guy if they just let him pin his ears back.
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so far. i think that's a key word...

you also have to recognize how BAD the browns defense looks.
well our defense looked alright against cincinnati, pittsburgh, washington, new york, and jacksonville..but in the meltdowns against Baltimore and Denver they just got shredded in the 2nd half and 4th quarter especially. Defense was way worse last year and the fact that we get no pass rush is a big reason. Cleveland looks to be a couple good outside pass rushers away from being a pretty solid defensive team. Defensive line and secondary aren't that bad.
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I also dont think it helps that most of his defensive line are pass rushers and cant really hold the point of attack. Outside of Rogers and Wimbley, I wouldnt want anyone from that defense.
I will take Sean Jones over Rogers. Wimbley was raw when he came out, and still is without the coaches doing their jobs.
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I also dont think it helps that most of his defensive line are pass rushers and cant really hold the point of attack. Outside of Rogers and Wimbley, I wouldnt want anyone from that defense.
I would take Sean Jones, Jones could be a pro bowler if he had better players around him also Corey Williams is not a very good 3-4 end but he's a very solid 4-3 DT. Wimbley, Rodgers, Jones, and Williams that's all I would take.
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Mark Anderson same story as Wimbley just worse. First year- 12 sacks, since then 5 all last year. Now he is just getting stone-walled. Not even getting pressures.
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I also dont think it helps that most of his defensive line are pass rushers and cant really hold the point of attack. Outside of Rogers and Wimbley, I wouldnt want anyone from that defense.
I'd take Sean Jones and Eric Wright too.

Iunno what's happened to Wimbley but I've been asking this question for a while too. He's been completely invisible since his rookie year IMO, but like many here I think it's because Cleveland's coaching staff just can't take anything about that team and put it over the top. That offense *should* be elite, but it's not. That D has added some nice pieces, but nothing really has changed there.

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Mark Anderson same story as Wimbley just worse. First year- 12 sacks, since then 5 all last year. Now he is just getting stone-walled. Not even getting pressures.
He doesnt even try to stop the run
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I will take Sean Jones over Rogers. Wimbley was raw when he came out, and still is without the coaches doing their jobs.
rogers has been absolutely dominant this year. Jones has been solid but makes mental mistakes and is only average in coverage, though he is a good strong safety. but Rogers is the best player on the team this year by far. he's the only guy on the club defintiely worthy of a pro bowl, and if he doesn't go then it's totally unfair to him.
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I think the term 'bust' refers to someone who disappoints to a considerable degree. The guy is a starter, and is a solid, but not spectacular player, and that isn't the definition of a bust. He's not going to be out of the league or anything like that. My answer is simply: No
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LOL...

What the hell are you smoking and can I have some of it... Sean Jones over Shaun Rogers? Please...
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I wonder if Willie McGinest took him under his wing.
McGinest seems to get a lot more love than he deserves. Look at his career stats. He averages just over 6.5 sacks per 16 games. That's not exactly Hall of Fame worthy right there.

Who was Merriman's coach? Who taught him to rush the passer? That's who you want to teach Wimbley.
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McGinest seems to get a lot more love than he deserves. Look at his career stats. He averages just over 6.5 sacks per 16 games. That's not exactly Hall of Fame worthy right there.

Who was Merriman's coach? Who taught him to rush the passer? That's who you want to teach Wimbley.
Eek. I just figured a veteran at the position would show him a few tricks....
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wtf? this thread should have the name Manny Lawson and not Wimbley. Wimbley is still developing and hes been pretty good in my opinion.
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wtf? this thread should have the name Manny Lawson and not Wimbley. Wimbley is still developing and hes been pretty good in my opinion.
Your opinion is WRONG.
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