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Old 11-10-2008, 10:46 AM    (permalink
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I just think it is funny how so many commentators act like the Dolphins invented the play.
oh i know. I know the Jets had been doing similar plays with Brad Smith since he's been drafted, and other teams have done so for years before that. I just wish the Jets used it a bit more.
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Bills lined up in it against the Pats yesterday on a few plays.
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The actual "wild cat" hasn't worked for the Dolphins since the first few weeks. The jet sweep type plays with Pennington at QB and Ricky coming in motion worked decently well, and yesterday we were using a normal shot gun formation with Ronnie at QB and Ricky and Cobbs next to him and basically ran an option read/triple option type look out of it. We keep adding new things and those work, but the actual Arkansas wild cat doesn't work much at all now that teams have seen it.
That would be the "Wild' hog, sir.
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Yup that is the best. Troy Smith threw a 25 yard TD to Heap yesterday out of it. Smith is a dangerous rushing threat. Put him with Mcgahee back there and defending the option alone is tough. Then consider Smith can pull it back and throw, then you are truly forced to not only commit to the run like you can to th e Dolphins. And just the fact that Flacco is out there the defense pays attention to him, and Flacco can actually catch. Yesterday they had it set up perfectly. Troy Swung it out to Flacco in the flats. Flacco tossed it back across the field to Troy who had blockers rolling in front of him. Flacco's throw was low and Troy couldn't catch it but he had 40 yards of open field and 3 O-lineman leading the way. He probably would have taken it to the house. It adds a lot of the dimension to the Ravens offense, but should only be run 5-7 times a game. It's really different with Baltimore because of the passing threat. The QB Troy Smith can throw it. Out wide Flacco can throw it. And if you focus it on those two on the other side Mark Clayton has a great arm and has thrown a couple trick plays in his career.
Skins could run it with Antwaan Randle-El lined up at QB.
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I think its stupid how E!SPN gives credit to Miami for using it first when it was Oakland who used it first against Denver.
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:37 AM    (permalink
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well they sucked with it and Miami got 5 TDs with 5 Wildcat Plays againts New England, so i guess they give credit to the one who succeeded first
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I think its stupid how E!SPN gives credit to Miami for using it first when it was Oakland who used it first against Denver.
lets be perfectly honest...with the franchise in the state its in, no one is going to be giving Oakland credit for anything, besides the assasination of Al Davis...:D
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It's really not that hard to control once you plan for it consistently. Like running it, defending requires a special skill set from the defense, especially your front 4 (running a 4-3).
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49ers have used it with Robinson at QB, with Gore and Battle next to him. Has not worked too well lol. I been waiting forever to see San Fran do a reverse pass to Battle or to Robinson, since they drafted them.
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I remember when Red Grange used to run it.
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I thought it was pretty cool when Arkansas ran it with McFadden and early this season when the Dolphins used it, but now that everyone uses it I can't stand it.
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I love it personally. It adds another dimension of excitement and anticipation to the game. When you have an, essentially, all world athlete behind center than you know that something big can happen in the next 8 seconds. I like the extra element it brings to the game today, not to mention it's fun to watch. I haven't seen my favorite team do it or it be done against my team nor have I seen it done live other than Desean last night but based on highlights it looks really explosive but defenses will figure it out in no time if everyone runs it. Enjoy it while you can.
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well they sucked with it and Miami got 5 TDs with 5 Wildcat Plays againts New England, so i guess they give credit to the one who succeeded first
You probably didn't watch the game.Althought they didn't use it to much, when they did run it, it proved that it could be effective in the NFL.
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You probably didn't watch the game.Althought they didn't use it to much, when they did run it, it proved that it could be effective in the NFL.
yea i didnt watch it, i just thought it wasnt as effective as the Dolphins
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it was best when Troy Smith ran the option and gave it to Raymell Baby.

I have no clue who the Giants would use. Bradshaw, Manningham, Moss, Hixon, Ward? hmm
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Are we really going to give any modern team credit for what is essentially one of the oldest formations in football? It's almost exactly the single wing.

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Bills lined up in it against the Pats yesterday on a few plays.
We've done 1-3 times in most games, Freddy Jackson is decent out of it but no wrinkles in it for us.
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Are we really going to give any modern team credit for what is essentially one of the oldest formations in football? It's almost exactly the single wing.
I don't think anyone here is really giving credit for it being created to any team, modern or not. I think they're giving credit to teams for reviving it and setting a trend.
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Boldin just proved why he is one of the toughest receivers in the game out of the Wildcat. Worked well for a 10 yard rush.
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I remember the Steelers did it in the preseason and I thought it was ******** and would never work in the NFL.



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How many teams started the wildcat formation? Could i get a number? cause everyone else and their grandmother thinks their team started it hahaha.
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I think the Bears should incorperate a package in general where Hester and Forte both start in the backfield.

Too bad Ron Turner doesn't know how to call anything but a.) run up the gut b.) screen pass to Hester and c.) out to Olsen. (Unless Rexy is at QB then he calls streaks by everyone.....ugh.)
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I think its stupid how E!SPN gives credit to Miami for using it first when it was Oakland who used it first against Denver.
I don't think that was really wildcat bro. I think it was a regular shutgun set with McFadden at QB and Bush at RB and they did a simple option...
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