Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > Draft Countdown Forums > 2015 NFL Draft Forum

2015 NFL Draft Forum Discuss the 2015 NFL Draft

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-11-2008, 07:00 PM    (permalink
Babylon
Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,131
Reputation: 3286551
Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JaxJag_1 View Post
Personally I like Freeman because of his size, arm strength, tools, and mobility. He has every tool necessary but he needs to work on his touch and accuracy and I think his problems come when he trusts his arm too much. And I like that Freeman plays in adversity, he plays on a much less talented team where he has to make the plays and he isn't in a situation like where Bradford gets to be in the shotgun all game and stand back in a perfect pocket where he has 2 NFL RB's, a 1st round TE, and 2 NFL WR's.

I'd rank them.....

1. Matthew Stafford
2. Sam Bradford
3. Nate Davis
4. Mark Sanchez
5. Josh Freeman
I'd find a place in there for McCoy, Tebow and Bomar, interesting group. Good discussion.
Babylon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2008, 07:05 PM    (permalink
illmatic74
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 970
Reputation: -1519
illmatic74 illmatic74 illmatic74 illmatic74 illmatic74 illmatic74
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Babylon View Post
They brought in Sanchez in 2005 so unlikely they would have gone after Freeman, there are usually enough blue chip Californians for the Trojans so they dont need to stray too far. Matt Barkely next in line.
That doesn't mean they don't stray Cushing from NJ Rivers from FL Mcknight from Louisiana etc
__________________
"The system can never stop what's been set into motion,like volcanic eruptions on the floor of the ocean,my purpose is to burst through the surface emerse in the smoldering lava from verses surrounded by, Murder mami's (not bitches that's worthless) i cut chicken heads off (like hexes and curses),weapons i purchase make homeland security nervous, i run pockets & purses like subway searches under Masonic temples disguised as churches"- Immortal Technique
illmatic74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2008, 07:12 PM    (permalink
Babylon
Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,131
Reputation: 3286551
Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by illmatic74 View Post
That doesn't mean they don't stray Cushing from NJ Rivers from FL Mcknight from Louisiana etc
They definitely recruit nationwide, that was Lane Kiffin's strength. I was referring to QBs, although they did get JDB from Louisiana.
Babylon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 12:52 AM    (permalink
Habibi
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JaxJag_1 View Post
Well Stafford too has all the tools minus the mobility that Freeman has, and Stafford has way more talent at UGA. And Stafford isn't there yet as we saw vs. the Gator defense 2 weeks ago.

I'm not a hater on Stafford or a fan of Freeman, I'm just wondering
Why do people insist on bringing up Stafford's surrounding talent when comparing him with Big-12 QBs? Guess what? Stafford also plays against better talent. Logically it cancels out.

And please, where the hell is this unmatched talent he supposedly plays with outside of Knowshon Moreno? Georgia's offensive line is below average, he has no TE, and his WRs are what would be a 5-7 round pick and a rookie who's at best inconsistent.

People are acting like Georgia's offense is the reincarnation of the 2006 USC team.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 08:27 AM    (permalink
georgiafan
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,571
Reputation: 238030
georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

You can tell he has the size, arm strength and mobility for his size, but like others have said his decison making is pretty bad in the games i've seen. He has the potential he just needs more time in college.

Habibi thats because all people do is look at stats and say UGA has great skill position players. Without knowing the real story about the OL and the fact Stafford has made Massaquoi this year.
__________________

Last edited by georgiafan : 11-12-2008 at 08:30 AM.
georgiafan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 02:00 PM    (permalink
themythisbusted
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

stafford suks. look how he played against florida. he makes too many stupidendous decisions to be a superbowl qb.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 02:34 PM    (permalink
Babylon
Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,131
Reputation: 3286551
Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by themythisbusted View Post
stafford suks. look how he played against florida. he makes too many stupidendous decisions to be a superbowl qb.
There's stupid and there's stupendous, which is it?
Babylon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 02:41 PM    (permalink
themythisbusted
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

um... stupid... typo on my part.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 02:47 PM    (permalink
hobbes2053
Pro Bowler
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Bean
Posts: 3,169
Reputation: 1151633
hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.hobbes2053 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Babylon View Post
There's stupid and there's stupendous, which is it?
Stu-pid-en-dous [stoo-pid-en-duh s] - something so stupid, it's stupendous; something so stupendous, it's stupid.
hobbes2053 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 02:51 PM    (permalink
Vikes99ej
Icon
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Uptown
Posts: 16,667
Reputation: 320894
Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Vikes99ej is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by themythisbusted View Post
stafford suks. look how he played against florida. he makes too many stupidendous decisions to be a superbowl qb.
Are you who I think you are?
Vikes99ej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 02:59 PM    (permalink
themythisbusted
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

im just a guy who calls it as i see it. and the way i see it is that stafford is going to suk ass in the pros. the myth of john matthew stafford is busted.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 03:03 PM    (permalink
Babylon
Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,131
Reputation: 3286551
Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Babylon is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vikes99ej View Post
Are you who I think you are?
Seperated at birth maybe?
Babylon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 03:09 PM    (permalink
themythisbusted
 
Posts: n/a
Reputation:
Default

i separated from your momma 2 years ago. seriously who u think i is.
  Reply With Quote Received Infraction
Old 11-12-2008, 03:41 PM    (permalink
D-Unit
DC Administrator
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 61,777
Reputation: 2545615
D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Josh Freeman has a strong arm with no accuracy on the deep ball. That's a bad combination.
D-Unit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 03:48 PM    (permalink
georgiafan
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,571
Reputation: 238030
georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.georgiafan is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by themythisbusted View Post
stafford suks. look how he played against florida. he makes too many stupidendous decisions to be a superbowl qb.
So it was Staffords fault A.J Green ran the wrong route? I'm glad you know more then Mark Richt who said that several times after the game.
__________________
georgiafan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 03:54 PM    (permalink
T-RICH49
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chilling with HOF Hosmer
Posts: 14,013
Reputation: 191970
T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.T-RICH49 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

it's not that I hate Freeman personally I personally have seen nothing that makes him a 1st round pick in my honest opinon
__________________
T-RICH49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 03:59 PM    (permalink
D-Unit
DC Administrator
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 61,777
Reputation: 2545615
D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.D-Unit is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by T-RICH49 View Post
it's not that I hate Freeman personally I personally have seen nothing that makes him a 1st round pick in my honest opinon
1st round pick??? I don't even see a 5th round pick in him. He a worse prospect than Andre Woodson.
D-Unit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 04:16 PM    (permalink
bored of education
DC Creeper
Icon
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 16,627
Reputation: 1057989
bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Unit View Post
1st round pick??? I don't even see a 5th round pick in him. He a worse prospect than Andre Woodson.
I agree!!!!!!
__________________
my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
<TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
<+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermstheman83 View Post
What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
bored of education is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 05:18 PM    (permalink
JaxJag_1
Veteran
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 522
Reputation: 30400
JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I don't think he's worse than Woodson. Woodson had the long wind up and had less mobility and way less arm strength than Freeman.
__________________
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER

JaxJag_1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 06:17 PM    (permalink
sweetd20
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 866
Reputation: 100
sweetd20 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Watching Freeman play this year he reminds me of Mike McMahon when he was playing for Detroit. He makes poor decisions and reads while often trying to burn a pass into his receiver when a touch pass would be the better throw. Freeman definately has the tools but I believe he's best served to return for one more year in college. He might also want to think about getting some QB coaching during the offseason to help with his weaknesses.
sweetd20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 09:56 PM    (permalink
JaxJag_1
Veteran
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 522
Reputation: 30400
JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.JaxJag_1 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

When Freeman comes into the NFL his best situation would be to come in and play behind an established QB for 3 or so years and have a good QB coach to work with him and develop him, if things go right he could be really good, but it will take time
__________________
FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER

JaxJag_1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 11:18 PM    (permalink
holt_bruce81
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 9,506
Reputation: 665107
holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.holt_bruce81 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I don't think there's a lot of hate for him. In fact I think there's a little to much love. I said in the beginning of the year I wasn't as High on him as most, he's a big guy with a cannon and that's why people fell in love with him so quickly. He does have the tool set to be a very good Quarterback in the future but right now he's all potential. I think he's a 2nd-3rd round guy.
__________________
holt_bruce81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 11:58 PM    (permalink
DoWnThEfiElD
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,137
Reputation: 7736
DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.DoWnThEfiElD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I just don't see how he is a 1st round QB at this point. Sure he has a good arm, but all in all he has been pretty bad this year. I would like to see more production from a 1st round QB.

In Big 12 play this year he has completed like 56% of his passes with 4 TD and 6 INTs. Those are totals for 6 games, and there isn't any great defenses in that league this year.
__________________

Last edited by DoWnThEfiElD : 11-13-2008 at 12:04 AM.
DoWnThEfiElD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 06:07 PM    (permalink
bspen4
Rookie
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 220
Reputation: 155
bspen4 hopes to escalate quickly but not get out of hand.
Default

Scott's blog offers a good overview of Freeman
bspen4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 06:59 PM    (permalink
P-L
Head Moderator
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 30,624
Reputation: 1110068
P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.P-L is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DoWnThEfiElD View Post
In Big 12 play this year he has completed like 56% of his passes with 4 TD and 6 INTs. Those are totals for 6 games, and there isn't any great defenses in that league this year.
Exactly. If he played in a strong defensive conference like the SEC or Big Ten it would be easier to look past the numbers. However, no one in the Big XII plays any defense. Freeman's overall season numbers aren't even that impressive even before you consider that he has 8 TD and 0 INT against North Texas, Montana State, and Louisiana-Lafayette.
P-L is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.