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View Poll Results: Vince Young
will find success with the Titans again 33 37.08%
will find success with another team 8 8.99%
will never find success again 20 22.47%
his knee was down on that long run in the National Championship Game, dammit! 24 26.97%
Other 4 4.49%
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:08 PM    (permalink
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Madden Curse. His career is in jeaopardy. Will he ever be good? It's a maybe.
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I couldn't make it past the picture that scared the **** out of me when I saw it because of how random it was.
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I dont know about you, but I only see Vince as a top 5 QB overall, or completely out of the League. I dont see him being an average QB. Just spectacular or nothing. But hey, thats just me.
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I dont see him being an average QB. Just spectacular or nothing. But hey, thats just me.
I need to go back and find that post but I remember when people were having raging arguments about VY I think me and maybe like two other people were like, "he could just be average?" when there was a huge thread that really boiled down to people saying he's going to be one of the league's best or a total bust and nothing in between.
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Some success with another team starting next year. Don't think he'll be on the field again for the Titans, unless it's walking to the locker room.
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He shouldnt have started from day one in the first place. It may have ruined his career. I think he'll be okay, but its gonna be tough.
I wonder if one of the reasons he's having emotional problems is because he is use to being able to outrun everyone and look like god.

Or maybe he's just a big baby.
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Maybe it won't be this season, but Tennessee has a heavy enough investment in him that he'll be given a chance there again. Collins won't hold up forever or else he wouldn't have been their backup QB to begin with........

I think he gets another shot there within 2 seasons and that will make or break things for him. Collins really isn't doing anything complicated from the games I've seen, and if Vince can at least master that plus use his legs, he could be dynamic again for that team.
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People are putting too much faith in Kerry Collins. 2 seasons ago he looked so hopelessly awful that Fisher to started VY. Just cause he is playing well doesn't mean he will keep it up. He's always been highly inconsistent, theirs a reason why he's a journeyman.

Pretty much everyone in the media agreed that he needed 1 or 2 years without playing to just develop. I think its too early to give up on him and with him being so raw and having no confidence he needs a lot of time to develop.
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What happened after that? did he get up and keep running or did he pitch it? I dont see how he could have got back up without the refs noticing.
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What happened after that? did he get up and keep running or did he pitch it? I dont see how he could have got back up without the refs noticing.
He pitched it.
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What happened after that? did he get up and keep running or did he pitch it? I dont see how he could have got back up without the refs noticing.
He pitched the ball to Ramonce Taylor I believe on an option and he ended up scoring or getting down to the 1, the play is blurry right now in my head but it wasn't questionable enough during fast time for the refs to blow the whistle.
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He pitched the ball to Ramonce Taylor I believe on an option and he ended up scoring or getting down to the 1, the play is blurry right now in my head but it wasn't questionable enough during fast time for the refs to blow the whistle.
Yeah, he did pitch it to Ramonce, and he scored. It got stopped but the refs in the booth screwed up the feed and they couldn't overturn the call.
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What happened after that? did he get up and keep running or did he pitch it? I dont see how he could have got back up without the refs noticing.
is there a video?
Did you just start watching football last year?
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put young in the cfl where he belongs. he is to inaccurate and injury prone to be an effective pro qb. if u put him at wr championship. he will know wat the qb is thinking so he will make a great reciever. championship
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No, ive been a fan my whole life and I watched the game, I just couldn't remember that particular play.
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Here are 3 mystery QB stats for the year of 2006, Young's best year.

COM ATT PCT YDS YPA LNG TD INT RAT
223 388 57.5 2236 5.76 48 12 15 68.2
184 357 51.5 2199 6.16 53 12 13 66.7
252 393 64.1 2454 6.24 75 10 17 72.0














QB1 - J. Harrington
QB2 - V. Young
QB3 - C. Frye

All of these QB are in the same ballpark. Harrington and Frye lost their jobs obviously due to there lack of ability. This is why I don't understand Young supporters, he does not win games, his team does. If the Titans had Harrington or Frye, would there still be people singing their praises? And as a Madden curse goes, usually the player is top 5 in their respective position in the league and drops horribly the next year. He was one of the was one of the worst in 06 and 07. He did not break any curse, this will be apparent as you see that 06 and 07 is his average production.

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VY will be starting next season. Fisher has left no wiggle room when talking about this. Collins is doing great in the present, but as far as the future goes, VY is the guy.

I'm a VY supporter. I know his flaws, but I know he's a special player. The biggest knock on him is that he thinks he needs to be Superman. He came in in '06, and had to make the SportsCenter top plays list in order for the team to win. In '07, that was not the case, but Vince still felt like he needed to in order for the team to win and for the critics to be quiet. I think sitting and watching Collins will hopefully do him wonders, and he will realize that he doesn't have to do it all by himself.

Keep in mind that the Titans didn't have a player nearly as gifted as Chris Johnson to pair with Vince. CJ will help more than a "#1 WR" will in his progression.
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For the time being, keep him in practice and give him plenty of snaps in practice. Collins is a vet who knows this offense, so he doesn't need excessive reps. Let Vince know that he can win the job moving forward (2009 and further), but only if he truly shows he can do it. See how he reacts. Depending on how that works out, let him name drop into trade considerations and see if any good offers float your way.

I still think Vince Young can be a good NFL quarterback, but he obviously has some things to work out. If the Titans can dangle a carrot in front of him and give him some purpose to strive for, maybe he'll react how they hope and become a viable NFL starter. Obviously Kerry Collins has been good this year, but I wouldn't count on him next season or beyond. The Titans are neither so young nor so old that they can let that position slack between a questionable youngster and an aging vet.
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Offtopic but what happened to Ramonce Taylor? I remember alot of people liked this guy as a prospect.
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Offtopic but what happened to Ramonce Taylor? I remember alot of people liked this guy as a prospect.
He got caught with weed and was kicked off the team by Mack. Sat out the year and tried getting drafted to no avail.

Good guess is he's selling tupper-ware door to door.
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