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A couple thoughts of mine- Felix Jones is a bit too high, since he is out for the year and missed like 5 games before this he should be alot lower. Jake Long and DeSean Jackson should switch. Chris Horton is a bit too low and Eddie Royal is too high. Also, wheres Brandon Flowers? He's played pretty solid.

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1. QB Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
Franchise quarterbacks are hard to find, but the Falcons have found their future star. Ryan is a smart player who has done a nice job making decisions when attacking the opposing team's back end. He has shown great maturity and flashes of a big-time arm, but he needs to play with more consistency on the road.

2. RB Chris Johnson, Tennessee Titans
He has been very impressive as a change-of-pace back opposite RB LenDale White. Johnson is a very versatile player who contributes in sub and regular packages. He is a powerful inside runner with the speed and quickness to get on the edge of the defense as an outside runner. He's an explosive playmaker who has been one the major keys to the Titans' success.

3. LB Jerod Mayo, New England Patriots
He has been a highly productive three-down player in the Patriots' system. Mayo has natural athletic skills, range and a knack for being around the football both in the box and out in space. He was all over the field in Week 11 against the Jets and he has easily positioned himself to be the defensive rookie of the year.

4. WR Eddie Royal, Denver Broncos
He has done a great job of giving the Broncos a solid No. 2 receiver opposite WR Brandon Marshall. Royal is a smart, instinctive player who understands route concepts, has very good functional play speed and tremendous hands. He knows how to get open and has added value as a dynamic return specialist.

5. RB Matt Forte, Chicago Bears
He has been a versatile three-down player who has natural vision and instincts. Forte has the speed to press downhill holes with good lateral quickness, balance and control. He has been a key player for the Bears' offense and has taken a lot of pressure off QB Kyle Orton.

6. WR DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
He is an explosive player who finally gives the Eagles' perimeter a third-level dimension. Jackson plays bigger than his listed size (5-foot-10) with enough functional play strength to gain separation off his release. He also has the play speed to attack all levels within the structure of the Eagles' West Coast passing attack.

7. QB Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
He is an intriguing young player who is the quarterback of the future in Baltimore. Flacco has a very strong arm which can attack all three levels in the passing game. He is a mobile guy in the pocket who shows decent dimensions at the quarterback position. Flacco has come along way with his timing and rhythm in the passing game.

8. OT Jake Long, Miami Dolphins
He has been very impressive playing the most critical position on the offensive line, especially as a rookie. He has been very effective as a run-blocker, while doing a great job protecting the back side of his quarterback. He is a tough, smart, competitive football player with excellent traits.
9. OT Ryan Clady, Denver Broncos
He has been a very consistent player within the Broncos' zone-blocking schemes. Clady is very athletic with those long gifted arms that allow him to get into defenders quickly. He is a very sound technician with excellent foot quickness, balance and control.

10. RB Steve Slaton, Houston Texans
He has been impressive in the Texans' running game, which has taken the pressure off the quarterback position. Slaton is a versatile back with three-down value. He has played bigger than his listed size (5-foot-9) with explosive speed and natural jump-cut ability. He can strike from anywhere from the field.

11. RB Jonathan Stewart, Carolina Panthers
He has been a solid addition to the Panthers' power running game. Stewart is a big back with a great combination of quickness, speed and power. He is an explosive player who has the functional strength to wear defenses down. However, he is only a two-down back and must continue to improve as a receiver out of the backfield along with understanding protection schemes.

12. DE Chris Long, St. Louis Rams
He has been somewhat unnoticed playing on a really bad team. However, Long is relentless and has an outstanding motor. He has strong active hands to get separation from blockers with finishing speed. Long has all the intangibles you look for when building the core of your defensive team.

13. OT Branden Albert, Kansas City Chiefs
He is another rookie starting in the NFL at the most critical position on the offensive line. He is very athletic with good size, foot quickness and long arms. He can bend and play with leverage as a run-blocker.

14. SS Chris Horton, Washington Redskins
Horton was not on my original top-20 list and that had a lot to do with the position he plays. However, I went back into the film room and realized that the Redskins found themselves a steal in the seventh round. Nevertheless, he is an instinctive player who has a knack for being around the ball.

15. OT Jeff Otah, Carolina Panthers
He is a big, powerful tackle who has improved the right side of the Panthers' offensive line. Otah is a big man who can be hard to get around in pass-protection schemes. He can shock defenders with his strong hands and long arms. He is also very effective as a run-blocker when creating movement and space in the running game.

16. RB Felix Jones, Dallas Cowboys
He has explosive, game-changing speed and is a threat to score anytime he touches the rock. Offensive coordinator Jason Garrett must find a way to get him more involved in the offense when he returns from his hamstring injury. He has a bell-cow mentality and is a very good change-of-pace back opposite Marion Barber.

17. RB Kevin Smith, Detroit Lions
One of the few bright spots in Detroit has been the play of Smith. He's a good, young back with three-down value. He has very good functional play speed and power. Smith has fit easily into the Lions' zone-running schemes with natural one-cut ability.

18. TE John Carlson, Seattle Seahawks
With all the injuries at the skills positions in Seattle, Carlson leads the team in receptions. He has shown good blocking ability in the run game and he is a natural athlete with good hands and route-running ability. Carlson is particularly good at finding the soft spots in underneath zones.

19. RB Ray Rice, Baltimore Ravens
He has been a versatile player who has contributed in both regular and sub offensive groupings. Rice is a good north-south runner who can be very effective running between the tackles. He displays a good low center of gravity and runs with power.

20. CB Aqib Talib, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
He is a physical corner who has fit well in Monte Kiffin's Tampa 2 system. Talib is a natural athlete with size, long arms and ball skills. He has a good knack for the playing the ball with his back to the quarterback.

21. RB Darren McFadden, Oakland Raiders
He is an explosive athlete with a lot of versatility within the structure of any offense. McFadden has the functional play speed to strike from anywhere on the field, but has been bothered by a toe injury that has affected his playing time.

22. DT Sedrick Ellis, New Orleans Saints
He is a disruptive young player who contributes in both regular and sub packages. Ellis has shown a good interior push when rushing the passer and improved his technique as a run defender before injuring his knee and missing time. He has all the intangibles to develop into a front-line starter for years to come.

23. TE Dustin Keller, New York Jets
He is a very athletic tight end who can cause a lot of mismatches when aligned outside on the perimeter. He is a natural route runner with good hands and run-after-catch ability.

24. DE Kendall Langford, Miami Dolphins
He is an under-the-radar player in the the Dolphins' 3-4 defense. He is not an ideal starter at this point in his development, but he will be in time.

25. RB Tim Hightower, Arizona Cardinals
He has replaced Edgerrin James in the starting lineup as a three-down back. Hightower has good run vision, quickness, power and instincts. He has deceptive speed and a nose for getting the ball into the end zone.
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You'd think with the money they are making they could at least use proper English. That's just embarrassing.
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It's too hard to compare linemen and skill position players. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Compare this with the poor grammar and spelling, and it's just another Scouts Inc. article.
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Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr SHOULD be on the list
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OG Chilo Rachal might make his first start tommorow, i can't wait to see this guy. I think he's going to be a stud.
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The Jaguars should have...

no one...

on that list.

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How does McFadden even make this list, having been out a good portion of the season with turf toe. He really hasn't done anything. Langford has been rock solid on our D-line this year and an integral piece of our 3-4 defense that is worlds better than last season. He is a big reason for that and he is ranked behind McFadden? What a joke.

Hightower should be above him as well, as should Brandon Flowers (very solid starter for KC for a majority of the season and is not even on the list!), and Dustin Keller.

Hell, I'd even put Phillip Merling and Davone Bess over McFadden and Sedrick Ellis on that list. Merling has been a big part of our rotation on the line this year, and Davone has had some work in the slot as well as being our primary punt returner for the majority of the season up until this point.
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Tracy Porter was beastly in a couple of games before he was lost for the season. I think I'd put him over Sedrick Ellis, even though he only played in 5 games. I'm real excited about his future.
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How does McFadden even make this list, having been out a good portion of the season with turf toe. He really hasn't done anything. Langford has been rock solid on our D-line this year and an integral piece of our 3-4 defense that is worlds better than last season. He is a big reason for that and he is ranked behind McFadden? What a joke.

Hightower should be above him as well, as should Brandon Flowers (very solid starter for KC for a majority of the season and is not even on the list!), and Dustin Keller.

Hell, I'd even put Phillip Merling and Davone Bess over McFadden and Sedrick Ellis on that list. Merling has been a big part of our rotation on the line this year, and Davone has had some work in the slot as well as being our primary punt returner for the majority of the season up until this point.
Those 167 yards sure were nothing.
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Really confused as to why Sedrick Ellis made the list over Pat Sims and Jason Jones.

*remembers players' draft positions*

Ohhhhhh...
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I ******* love Pat Sims.

Kid has potential to be a Warren Sapp type of player.
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Clady should be above Jake Long. Long continues to get his #1 pick love, but Clady has been just flat out amazing this year.
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Forte Forte Forte!!

should be third.....grr. Ryan and Johnson are the only one's I'd agree to him being behind, and not even by that much. The guy is literally 2/3 of our offense.
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You can call me a homer but Orlando Scandrick has played well enough to be on that list, especially over someone like Darren McFadden who other then being drafted high hasn't done too much yet...Of course it's tough to explain that a corner is playing well unless your watching him or he's getting picks but he is gonna be a good one.
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How can Brandon Flowers not be on this list?! He's a rookie corner who is playing like he's been in the league for years.

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Horton should be top 5, if not #1/#2, he's been hands down the best Rookie this season.
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Why in the world is Ryan Clady not in the top five, and more importantly, why is Jake Long ahead of him?
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:49 AM    (permalink
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Forte Forte Forte!!

should be third.....grr. Ryan and Johnson are the only one's I'd agree to him being behind, and not even by that much. The guy is literally 2/3 of our offense.
wait, he is our offense
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My thoughts on these prospects at the start of the season

QB Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons-Felt that he would be very good but not great, his early success doesn't suprise me.

RB Chris Johnson, Tennessee Titans-I was very wrong about this guy, I felt he was a very bad pick in the first round. Felt he would make little impact running the ball, a bit like Reggie bush

LB Jerod Mayo, New England Patriots-Solid player and i expected as much, plus i trust the pats to put him in the best possible position to succeed

WR Eddie Royal, Denver Broncos-loved his route running felt that he would be a a really good player

RB Matt Forte, Chicago Bears-My favorite senior back in last years draft, I wish the steeler would have draft him in the second.

WR DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles-Thought he was the number 2 reciever behind Devin Thomas

QB Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens-This guy is having success, didn't think he would

OT Jake Long, Miami Dolphins-Doubted his ability to play left tackle, i suppose he has been solid

RB Steve Slaton, Houston Texans-A sleeper for me, perfect for the zone blocking scheme, Denver should have grabbed this guy.

RB Jonathan Stewart, Carolina Panthers-Loved this guy coming out


Too lazy to write the rest
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I thought Chris Johnson would be anohter Chris Henry...oh well
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