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Old 11-23-2008, 08:34 AM    (permalink
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Felix Jones definitely should not be above Kevin Smith or even Ray Rice or Tim Hightower. And IMO Tim Hightower>Ray Rice.
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Why in the world is Ryan Clady not in the top five, and more importantly, why is Jake Long ahead of him?
Agreed. Clady has been amazing this season, even better than Joe Thomas last year. According the some sites he has only allowed .5 a sack and only committed two penalties. Numbers for offensive linemen are almost as subjective as those of cornerbacks but still. Long has been okay in pass protection but he isn't a very good run blocker yet.
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The Chiefs rookie class has been great. Dorsey gets better every week and will be the top DT in the game soon. Flowers and Carr are 2 of the top 4 rookie CB's. Branden Albert is the 3rd best LT in this class thus far. Mike Cox is a great UDFA fullback. Brian Johnston has become a starter at DE. Dajuan Morgan is seeing more and more time, Jamaal Charles is becomming the premier back in the KC O. Cottam is a beast of a blocking tight end and is very agile and quick for such a house with the ball in his hands.

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List is void. Jordy isn't number 1.
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RB Matt Forte, Chicago Bears-My favorite senior back in last years draft, I wish the steeler would have draft him in the second.
I don't believe they had a chance to as the Bears picked ahead of them in the 2nd taking him there.
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McFadden would have been top 10 if his toe wasnt f'd up
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Agreed. Clady has been amazing this season, even better than Joe Thomas last year. According the some sites he has only allowed .5 a sack and only committed two penalties. Numbers for offensive linemen are almost as subjective as those of cornerbacks but still. Long has been okay in pass protection but he isn't a very good run blocker yet.
I am so glad others agree with me. Clady has just been flat out amazing this year, but most people still have Jake Long ahead of him for some reason. Oh wait, Long was the #1 overall pick and Clady #12.
I am just so happy Broncos look like they got their franchise bookend LT to protect Cutler for the next decade+.
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I cant believe that is not on this list!

No but seriously. Sam Baker and Curtis Lofton? wtf.
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Sam Baker played like only 4 games
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But he's on the FALCONZZZZ!!!
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Agreed. Clady has been amazing this season, even better than Joe Thomas last year. According the some sites he has only allowed .5 a sack and only committed two penalties. Numbers for offensive linemen are almost as subjective as those of cornerbacks but still. Long has been okay in pass protection but he isn't a very good run blocker yet.
He gave John Abraham a few headlocks that weren't called as holding. Bull I say.
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Twas a joke. Curtis Lofton deserves to be around 20-25, but its no big deal.
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brandon flowers, antoine cason anybody????
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Bengals rookie LT Anthony Collins made his debut on Thursday against the Steelers and he was fantastic against arguably the best pass rush defense in the NFL.
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Hightower has a lot of touchdowns but he is only averaging only 3.1 yards per carry and has only 1 game in which he rushed for more than 40 yards.

There are quite a few rookies I would put above him.
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Matt Forte awesome!
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I really think Joe Flacco should be ahead of desean jackson and eddie royal...what he is doing in baltimore is just outstanding. Call me a homer, but it isnt like he has a ton to work with there (certainly less then ryan has in atlanta) and we are now 7-4 and in the playoff hunt and hes a huge part of that. This guy played D2 ball last year and most people didnt even expect him to start all year long. Call me a homer, but the only people Id put ahead of him are Ryan and Johnson.
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I really think Joe Flacco should be ahead of desean jackson and eddie royal...what he is doing in baltimore is just outstanding. Call me a homer, but it isnt like he has a ton to work with there (certainly less then ryan has in atlanta) and we are now 7-4 and in the playoff hunt and hes a huge part of that. This guy played D2 ball last year and most people didnt even expect him to start all year long. Call me a homer, but the only people Id put ahead of him are Ryan and Johnson.
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Harry Douglas. zomgz.
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Aqib Talib a physical corner....say what? He's been good...and deserves to be on the list, but horrible reasoning. Brandon Flowers is a physical corner.

Clifton Smith is t3h gr34t35t putz him on the list for the simple reason that he was undrafted and Dexter Jackon was our 2nd round pick.
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Aqib Talib a physical corner....say what? He's been good...and deserves to be on the list, but horrible reasoning. Brandon Flowers is a physical corner.

Clifton Smith is t3h gr34t35t putz him on the list for the simple reason that he was undrafted and Dexter Jackon was our 2nd round pick.
Dexter will be better than Clifton.

He would already be if he went somewhere with good coaching.
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Dexter will be better than Clifton.

He would already be if he went somewhere with good coaching.
Please explain. This has nothing to do with coaching. We drafted him because of a 40 time. Problem is, he has no ability to move laterally and make people miss, change directions, etc. All he can do is run straight. Smith is elusive and that's why he's having success right now....because elusiveness is what makes good returners, not speed. Our coaches are ******** for drafting him but his failure is hardly their fault.

Jackson will be out of the league in 2 years. Rest assured. He's not even good enough for the CFL. Dead serious.
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Please explain. This has nothing to do with coaching. We drafted him because of a 40 time. Problem is, he has no ability to move laterally and make people miss, change directions, etc. All he can do is run straight. Smith is elusive and that's why he's having success right now....because elusiveness is what makes good returners, not speed. Our coaches are ******** for drafting him but his failure is hardly their fault.

Jackson will be out of the league in 2 years. Rest assured. He's not even good enough for the CFL. Dead serious.
He runs everywhere but forward, which as you said is all he can do, right? Why does he try to do things he cannot? That, is a matter of coaching.

He seems elusive enough based on what I have seen. He just has no vision.

Smith is a **** up waiting to happen. He has fumble issues!

You're also someone that has called for Ronde to be cut.....right?

I mean, I wanted his time to diminish but you seem like you are "one of those" fans.
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