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Old 11-25-2008, 03:36 PM    (permalink
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New page!

Maybe we can stop the Falcon crap that has taken over the board.

I'm actually surprised to see Talib on a top 25 list. He usually only plays on nickel packages. But ints talk.
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what im saying is that Cutler has no real running game to lean on. Matt Ryan is playing with the #2 Rushing game and a fairly good defense especially compared to Denver. that they have about the same amount of stats shows that Cutler is doing about the same job with less IMO
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what im saying is that Cutler has no real running game to lean on. Matt Ryan is playing with the #2 Rushing game and a fairly good defense especially compared to Denver. that they have about the same amount of stats shows that Cutler is doing about the same job with less IMO
Yeah thats true. His WRs and TEs are better and gets more opportunity to air it out. Shrug. You can flip the stats and situations to accommodate either player. Clearly though, Bruce doesn't want to talk about it anymore :(
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Yeah thats true. His WRs and TEs are better and gets more opportunity to air it out. Shrug. You can flip the stats and situations to accommodate either player. Clearly though, Bruce doesn't want to talk about it anymore :(
Rushing game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good WRs
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well, we've done this before.
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well, we've done this before.
more talk about Forte!
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more talk about Forte!
So how come he only has 3 100 yard games, coming against Indy, St. Louis, and Detroit?
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So how come he only has 3 100 yard games, coming against Indy, St. Louis, and Detroit?
how about 100 yards from scrimmage games? :)
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how about 100 yards from scrimmage games? :)
Touche. They really like him in the passing game.
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and he is an incredible Pass blocker for a rookie. He has only 1 less 100 yards from scrimmage games then Clinton Portis
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and he is an incredible Pass blocker for a rookie. He has only 1 less 100 yards from scrimmage games then Clinton Portis
Yeah (except when Portis has his 100 yard scrimmage games, he usually has about 150 yards). Consistency out of a RB is terrific. He reminds me of a less talented LT.
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DRC is #11 in passes defended(#1 amongst rookies) with only 3 starts

in those 3 starts he has 10 Tackles, 2 INT, 8 PDef
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DRC is #11 in passes defended(#1 amongst rookies) with only 3 starts

in those 3 starts he has 10 Tackles, 2 INT, 8 PDef
They are throwing in his direction.

Must be terrible QBs to miss those targets.

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They are throwing in his direction.

Must be terrible QBs to miss those targets.

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it helps when you run a 4.3 and have a 50 inch vertical
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it helps when you run a 4.3 and have a 50 inch vertical
I bet he hits .300 too.
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ya he hits .300...with his &*$%
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ya he hits .300...with his &*$%
Louisville slugger fo sho.
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Sorry to bring up Matt Ryan again, but some Falcon fan posted this:

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Current Rankings 1 - 15 (plus Flacco) by QB Rating with all games included

1 PHILLIP RIVERS = 103.3
2 KURT WARNER = 102.4
3 TONY ROMO = 101.8
4 DREW BREES = 99.9
5 JEFF GARCIA = 94.5
6 BRETT FAVRE = 94.1
7 CHAD PENNINGTON = 93.7
8 ELI MANNING = 91.6
9 MATT SCHAUB = 91.0
10 MATT CASSEL = 90.5
11 AARON RODGERS = 90.5
12 JASON CAMPBELL = 90.2
13 MATT RYAN = 88.3
14 KYLE ORTON = 88.1
15 PEYTON MANNING = 87.2

23 JOE FLACCO = 78.7

Quarterback Ratings if you remove the LOWEST QB Rating from the Stats

1 PHILLIP RIVERS = 108.39
2 KURT WARNER = 107
3 DREW BREES = 106.9 (+1)
4 TONY ROMO = 105.1 (-1)
5 MATT RYAN = 103.5 (+8)
6 JEFF GARCIA = 102.7 (-1)
7 MATT SCHAUB = 100.7 (+2)
8 BRETT FAVRE = 99.2 (-2)
9 CHAD PENNINGTON = 97.8 (-2)
10 ELI MANNING = 96.1 (-2)
11 JASON CAMPBELL = 95.9 (+1)
12 AARON RODGERS = 95.2 (-1)
13 MATT CASSEL = 94.5 (-3)
14 PEYTON MANNING = 93.3 (+1)
15 KYLE ORTON = 89.4 (-1)

JOE FLACCO = 83.7 ??

QB Rating if you remove the HIGHEST AND LOWEST Rating from the Stats

1 PHILLIP RIVERS = 104.7
2 TONY ROMO = 102.1 (+1)
3 DREW BREES = 101.3
4 KURT WARNER = 101.2 (-2); (-2)
5 MATT RYAN = 99.6 (+8)
6 JEFF GARCIA = 96.9 (-1)
7 BRETT FAVRE = 96.2 (-1)
8 CHAD PENNINGTON = 95 (-1)
9 AARON RODGERS = 92.9 (+2)
10 JASON CAMPBELL = 92.4 (+2)
11 MATT SCHAUB = 92.0 (-2); (-4)
12 ELI MANNING = 91.6 (-4); (-2)
13 MATT CASSEL = 89.8 (-3)
14 PEYTON MANNING = 88.7 (+1)
15 KYLE ORTON = 85.4 (-1)

JOE FLACCO = 79.6 ??
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Yeah but that's just averaging the QB ratings, which makes those numbers completely worthless.
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Yeah but that's just averaging the QB ratings, which makes those numbers completely worthless.
It shows consistency of a QB.
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You know who sucks?

Everyone on the Texans.

And since this is a rookies thread, lets just focus on them being terrible.
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It shows consistency of a QB.
You cannot average QB ratings and take it as meaning anything. I'm not one that thinks QB rating is a completely worthless stat, but when you average them it is.

He had a 120.6 rating in a game he threw 18 passes and a 68.1 rating in a game that he threw 44. When you average them they hold the same weight which they shouldn't.
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You cannot average QB ratings and take it as meaning anything. I'm not one that thinks QB rating is a completely worthless stat, but when you average them it is.

He had a 120.6 rating in a game he threw 18 passes and a 68.1 rating in a game that he threw 44. When you average them they hold the same weight which they shouldn't.
This is true.

It does show some week to week consistency though. One bad game can hurt a player (in Ryan's case, he gained 8 spots after removing the bad game). In Rivers case, he was consistent throughout the season and sees no ranking changes.
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1 PHILLIP RIVERS = 104.7
2 TONY ROMO = 102.1 (+1)
3 DREW BREES = 101.3
4 KURT WARNER = 101.2 (-2); (-2)
5 MATT RYAN = 99.6 (+8)
6 JEFF GARCIA = 96.9 (-1)
7 BRETT FAVRE = 96.2 (-1)
8 CHAD PENNINGTON = 95 (-1)
9 AARON RODGERS = 92.9 (+2)
10 JASON CAMPBELL = 92.4 (+2)
11 MATT SCHAUB = 92.0 (-2); (-4)
12 ELI MANNING = 91.6 (-4); (-2)
13 MATT CASSEL = 89.8 (-3)
14 PEYTON MANNING = 88.7 (+1)
15 KYLE ORTON = 85.4 (-1)

JOE FLACCO = 79.6 ??
Had some spare time, and i did this myself.

I removed the Tampa Bay and Oakland game from Matty's stats and his rating
was 91.5.
(155 for 256, 2060 yards, 9 touchdowns, 4 interceptions)

Only good for 13th on that list, but then again, you'd probably have to adjust all the other ones as well.
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Had some spare time, and i did this myself.

I removed the Tampa Bay and Oakland game from Matty's stats and his rating
was 91.5.
(155 for 256, 2060 yards, 9 touchdowns, 4 interceptions)

Only good for 13th on that list, but then again, you'd probably have to adjust all the other ones as well.
Hm. Maybe the guy who did that stuff was wrong.
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