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Old 11-24-2008, 08:16 PM    (permalink
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The second rendition features a few changes from the first. If general happiness was indicated following version one I tried to accomodate the same needs while adjusting for the disappointed fans as well (Seattle, Atlanta, and New Orleans in particular). I think I've avoided any glaring oversights, as I already caught myself having both Lindley and Oghobaase picked twice.

What I like:
- Chris Wells in the top 10 where he probably belongs
- Maclin not falling quite as far
- James Laurinaitis in the first round
- Raji not quite as high

What I don't like:
- Duke Robinson falling to the second round
- No Brandon Pettigrew
- No Jonathan Luigs
- Still not many wide receivers
- No quarterback besides Stafford
- Marcus Freeman falling one full round
- Robiskie perhaps a little high
As with the previous version, I will justify my selections if I must, although I would love to get nothing but positive feedback.

New Orleans (13th - 1150) <> Philadelphia (16th – 1000; 80th – 190)
Oakland (34th - 560) <> New England (43rd - 470; 107th - 80)

1) Detroit - Matt Stafford - QB – Georgia
2) Oakland - Andre Smith - OT – Alabama
3) Cincinnati - Brian Orakpo - DE – Texas
4) Kansas City - Everette Brown - DE - Florida State
5) St. Louis - Michael Oher - OT - Ole Miss
6) Seattle - Michael Crabtree - WR - Texas Tech
7) San Francisco - Eugene Monroe - OT – Virginia
8) Houston – Chris Wells – RB – Ohio State
9) Jacksonville – Malcolm Jenkins - DB – Ohio State
10) Cleveland - Rey Maualuga - ILB - Southern Cal
11) San Diego - Tyson Jackson - DE - Louisiana State
12) Buffalo - Aaron Curry - OLB - Wake Forest
13) Philadelphia (f/ New Orleans) - Jason Smith - OT - Baylor
14) Minnesota - Vontae Davis - DB - Illinois
15) Chicago - Greg Hardy - DE - Ole Miss
16) New Orleans (f/ Philadelphia) – Brian Cushing - LB - Southern Cal
17) Denver – Brandon Spikes - LB - Florida
18) Green Bay – Alphonso Smith - DB - Wake Forest
19) Miami – Michael Johnson - DE/OLB - Georgia Tech
20) Baltimore – Darius Heyward-Bey - WR - Maryland
21) Atlanta – Jermaine Gresham - TE - Oklahoma
22) Washington – Peria Jerry - DT - Ole Miss
23) New England - William Moore - S - Missouri
24) Detroit (f/ Dallas) – James Laurinaitis - LB - Ohio State
25) Indianapolis - Jeremy Maclin - WR - Missouri
26) Arizona - LeSean McCoy - RB - Pitt
27) New York Jets – B.J. Raji - NG/DE (3-4) - Boston College
28) Pittsburgh - Ciron Black - OT - Louisiana State
29) Tampa Bay – Knowshon Moreno - RB - Georgia
30) Philadelphia (f/ Carolina) – Taylor Mays - S - Southern Cal
31) New York Giants – George Selvie - DE - South Florida
32) Tennessee – D.J. Moore - DB - Vanderbilt

Second Round

33) Detroit – Duke Robinson - OG - Oklahoma
34) New England (f/ Oakland) – Brandon Graham - DE/OLB - Michigan
35) Cincinnati - Alex Mack - OL - Cal
36) Kansas City – Percy Harvin - WR - Florida
37) St. Louis – Sean Weatherspoon - LB - Missouri
38) Seattle – Clint Sintim - DE/OLB - Virginia
39) San Francisco – Trevard Lindley - CB - Kentucky
40) Houston – Pat Chung - S - Oregon
41) Jacksonville – Vince Oghobaase - DT - Duke
42) Cleveland – Mike Mickens - DB - Cincinnati
43) Oakland (f/ New England f/ San Diego) - Brian Robiskie - WR - Ohio State
44) Buffalo - Chase Coffman - TE - Missouri
45) NYG (f/ New Orleans) – Sen’derrick Marks - DT - Auburn
46) Minnesota - Phil Loadholt - OT - Oklahoma
47) Chicago – Herman Johnson - OG - Louisiana State
48) Philadelphia - Shonn Greene - RB - Iowa
49) Denver – Stafon Johnson - RB - Southern Cal
50) Green Bay - Evander Hood - DT - Missouri
51) Miami – Darius Butler - CB - Connecticut
52) Baltimore - Kevin Barnes - DB - Maryland
53) Atlanta – Rashad Johnson - FS - Alabama
54) Miami (f/ Washington) – Daniel Bruton - S - Notre Dame
55) New England - Victor Harris - DB - Virginia Tech
56) Dallas - Max Unger - OL - Oregon
57) Indianapolis - Fili Moala - DT - Southern Cal
58) Arizona - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State
59) NYJ – Jasper Brinkley - ILB - South Carolina
60) Pittsburgh – Jamon Meredith - OL - South Carolina
61) Tampa Bay – Ricky Jean-Francois - DT - Louisiana State
62) Carolina – Terrance Taylor - DT - Michigan
63) NYG – Marcus Freeman - LB - Ohio State
64) Tennessee - Matt Shaugnessy - DE - Wisconsin

Guys that either: I’m not sure they will declare/were considered in this top 64/would be considered if they declared: Sergio Render, Corey Wootton, C.J. Spiller, Javon Ringer, Charles Scott, Auston English, Jermaine Cunningham, Maurice Evans, Jonathan Luigs, Kam Chancellor, Juaquin Iglesias, Louis Murphy, Derrick Williams, Captain Munnerlyn, Demetrius Byrd, DeMarcus Granger, Al Woods, Gerald McCoy, Darry Beckwith, Eric Norwood, Derek Pegues, Sergio Kindle, Darnell Ellerbe, Brandon Pettigrew

Guys who are definitely NOT DECLARING (for mocking purposes) who otherwise would have more-than-likely in this mock: Geno Atkins, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, Mark Herzlich, Ndamukung Suh, Mark Sanchez, Sam Bradford, Terrance Cody, Tim Tebow
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:31 PM    (permalink
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You have the positions right for the 49ers but I would rather see them go Malcolm Jenkins in round 1 and Phil Loadholt in round 2.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:35 PM    (permalink
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You have the positions right for the 49ers but I would rather see them go Malcolm Jenkins in round 1 and Phil Loadholt in round 2.
Does it come down to whether or not Staley is the answer at left tackle?
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Quality picks for the Jets.

You didnt pick a RB that wouldnt complement Leon Washington. Kudos to you.
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Decend draft I must say, pleased me.
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I like the Crabtree and Sintum picks for Seattle. Rendition?
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:19 PM    (permalink
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Big fan of Raji to the Jets in the first, Brinkley is a good need and scheme pick but I'm not sure he's a second round guy at this point.
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If that was our first day, I would love it. 2 young tackles to groom while moving Colon to RG and Stapleton to C. I would love our OL after that.
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1st pick is perfect, though I dont think we will be picking 2nd in the draft.
I like the trade down since we pick up another pick, but IDK about the pick though. Id probably rather just stay where we were and get Harvin. If we do that trade I would want a big DT like Terrance Taylor there. Im not high on Robiskie.
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Very good first round for the Chiefs. I'm meh on the second, though he can handle return duties which we need. I think I'd prefer Herman Johnson in the second for us.

Good overall mock.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:32 AM    (permalink
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Big fan of Raji to the Jets in the first, Brinkley is a good need and scheme pick but I'm not sure he's a second round guy at this point.
I think there aren't too many linebackers in this draft with that kind of size, regardless of athletic ability, and so their value will be somewhat inflated (hence Maualuga in the top 10 and Brinkley in the second round).

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1st pick is perfect, though I dont think we will be picking 2nd in the draft.
I like the trade down since we pick up another pick, but IDK about the pick though. Id probably rather just stay where we were and get Harvin. If we do that trade I would want a big DT like Terrance Taylor there. Im not high on Robiskie.
The order is about a week old, so it is something I will have to update eventually. As for Robiskie, his productivity has not been good but that is more a coefficient of Pryor not being a great passer than Robiskie having a poor season. He's polished, intelligent, has good long speed, good height, good vertical ability, and great hands. He comes from a program with a pretty good track record with wide receivers. One in five catches he has made this year have been touchdowns. I think that after Senior Bowl (assuming he is invited) he shouldn't be considered a reach at outside of 40.

By contrast, Taylor has been poor and really doesn't have much excuse. Even Branch played a pretty good season; it was the post-season stuff that really hurt him. Taylor's play has drifted off and there are questions about his motor, questions which have plagued most of the Michigan defensive tackles in recent memory. I think his value will be enhanced by the fact that he's one a select few tackles who carries more than 300 pounds somewhat naturally, but even if you combine that with his flaws I am still convinced that he's more a second day pick than a first.
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Very good first round for the Chiefs. I'm meh on the second, though he can handle return duties which we need. I think I'd prefer Herman Johnson in the second for us.

Good overall mock.
Yeah, no one wants Harvin. It seems that for all the guys who say they like him, no one wants to touch him with a first day pick. Same for Nate Davis and Josh Freeman.
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Great Bears draft.
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Outstanding.

Seriously, we'd be dancing in the streets of Chicago.
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Not a bad Jets pick, but I think I'd prefer Mays, Raji is kind of a reach there
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Great first pick, but I don't see them picking a corner that early until Reggie Smith gets a chance to replace Walt Harris.
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I like the idea of Sintim to Seattle in the 2nd but since Chung is still there and safety is a big need for Seattle I'm wondering why you thought the Seahawks needed Sintim more? My only guess is you think Hill won't be in Seattle next season and that makes me very sad... :'(
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Wow, that mock pleases me just as much as a beje...

Makes me very happy in pants...;)
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gotta agree with vidae.love the 1st pick but Herman Johnson is a much better pick in the 2nd
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dont like the texans pick

we have a starting RB in slaton. while we still do need a complimentary back, slaton has been solid as a rookie.

i would rather take S William Moore in the 1st and RB Shonn Greene in the 2nd. i think that tandem would be much more productive than wells and chung
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Does it come down to whether or not Staley is the answer at left tackle?
Staley is the answer at left tackle. He hasn't allowed a sack since Hill became the starter which reinforces my view that O'Sullivan made the offensive line look much worse by holding onto the ball too long. The 49ers need a right tackle still but I don't see Monroe as a right tackle

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the pick + trade makes me happy although i do see us trading down again with both moore and mays still on the board as well, but i'd be more than happy with this scenario.
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I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy like that Raider draft. Andre Smith and Robiskie could help turn around this so-called "offense".

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1st pick is perfect, though I dont think we will be picking 2nd in the draft.
I like the trade down since we pick up another pick, but IDK about the pick though. Id probably rather just stay where we were and get Harvin. If we do that trade I would want a big DT like Terrance Taylor there. Im not high on Robiskie.
I love Robiskie, but I am a Buckeye homer. Keep in mind his production is down because he has a true freshman at QB, in real life I am hoping we can steal him in the 3rd because of it. My dream draft would go

Smtih
Mack
Robiskie

Of course that ignores that fact that we give up 160 a game on the ground, but you can't fix everything with one draft. Sign Tank Johnson to help stuff the run.
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