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Old 12-05-2008, 12:49 AM    (permalink
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Yeah. I am probably putting too much stock in the Falcons game. Though I do like Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd. They may be bad in some areas, but they make it up for the some great grabs.
I agree. I love Malcolm Floyd. There was a 3 game stretch where every time the Chargers needed a big play they went to Malcolm Floyd.
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I agree. I love Malcolm Floyd. There was a 3 game stretch where every time the Chargers needed a big play they went to Malcolm Floyd.
As a Vincent Jackson fantasy owner, I know :(
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Yeah. I am probably putting too much stock in the Falcons game. Though I do like Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd. They may be bad in some areas, but they make it up for the some great grabs.
Rivers has days where he is ridiculously on the money; he is not the most consistent QB but usually plays very sharp.

Ocho Cinco? Lawlz. With Floyd and Jackson both showing they can be big time, and Chambers, Gates and LT (and Sproles. Hester looks nice too. don't forget Naanee...) all deserving of their touches as well, we don't need more offensive skill position players. They do need a serious boost on the O-line, there is defensive penetration all over the place.
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You think we can be productive with no real #1 target at WR? We need that wr that defenses plan their game around to keep under control. With Chambers as our #1 we have mediocre starters. I have to agree with SK because Ive been looking into that Ocho Cinco to the chargers ever since i heard he wanted to be traded, we have too many leaders on our team to let a guy like 85 get out of line.
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Jacob Hester is a terrible FB. He is half the reason LT is sucking this year.
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Jacob Hester is a terrible FB. He is half the reason LT is sucking this year.
Except that Hester has only played FB in the last two games. Mike Tolbert was the starter for most of the season
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You think we can be productive with no real #1 target at WR? We need that wr that defenses plan their game around to keep under control. With Chambers as our #1 we have mediocre starters. I have to agree with SK because Ive been looking into that Ocho Cinco to the chargers ever since i heard he wanted to be traded, we have too many leaders on our team to let a guy like 85 get out of line.
You don't think Vincent Jackson can develop into a nice #1 receiver for you guys?
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You don't think Vincent Jackson can develop into a nice #1 receiver for you guys?
Vincent Jackson's too inconsistent to ever really be a #1. He disappears for stretches at a time. He's a real good #2 though. Like I said before the Chargers WR corps is filled with #2 WRs with Chambers and Jackson being top tier #2s and Floys and Davis having potential to be good #2s. They really need that one guy who commands a double team on every possession.
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Jacob Hester is a terrible FB. He is half the reason LT is sucking this year.
Hester has barely seen the field this year. His only real play time has come last night and the week before, and he showed he can contribute.

Considering how awful we've been on third down, I can see a receiving fullback coming in handy.

I don't really agree with the notion that we have a bunch of number 2 guys--I think when this offense is running like it's supposed to, the number 1 is Gates, the other guys are legit downfield threats, and the main engine is unleashing LT. That's not how we've looked this year for the most part, but we've got the personnel at the skill positions.

I'd much rather spend money on fixing our D and O-line than bringing in a joker like Chad Johnson.

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Hester has barely seen the field this year. His only real play time has come last night and the week before, and he showed he can contribute.

Considering how awful we've been on third down, I can see a receiving fullback coming in handy.

I don't really agree with the notion that we have a bunch of number 2 guys--I think when this offense is running like it's supposed to, the number 1 is Gates, the other guys are legit downfield threats, and the main engine is unleashing LT. That's not how we've looked this year for the most part, but we've got the personnel at the skill positions.

I'd much rather spend money on fixing our D and O-line than bringing in a joker like Chad Johnson.
I agree with this now that I think about it. We need two dlineman (one to replace Igor) and another to eventually replace Jamal, and at least another olineman to replace Goff. We need a running game to take the pressure off of Rivers. In other words, we need some beef on the lines.

Additionally, it's hard to make the type of deep throws that Norv wants when the line can't hold up during 5 or 7 step drops.

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Yeah. I am probably putting too much stock in the Falcons game. Though I do like Vincent Jackson and Malcolm Floyd. They may be bad in some areas, but they make it up for the some great grabs.
They can make great acrobatic catches, but they can't consistently get separation. The downside of having the height advantage over corners. VJ and Floyd are improving though, and I don't think we need a number 1 necessarily to do well. It all comes down to the beef up front. The NYG have shown how invaluable that is.
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I am calling it now

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I am calling it now

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Hey, it can happen. Denver's been inconsistent as well. I just have to hope for a gigantic collapse like the one similar to the first meeting between you two, and then there's the fact that Denver did lose to Oakland for some reason.
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Hey, don't wake up, it already happened once this season. Chiefs or Bills take advantage of Denver's D, then just maybe Carolina can deliver a miracle to the Bolts and make the season finale showdown mean something. Is that so inconceivable?

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VJax is great at times, but he isnt that explosive #1 WR that i want on this team. Having a TE as our #1 im not big on because Rivers is developing into a great QB and I want him to have that Legit #1 that he can rely on.

Thats why i said WR in the FA

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VJax is great at times, but he isnt that explosive #1 WR that i want on this team. Having a TE as our #1 im not big on because Rivers is developing into a great QB and I want him to have that Legit #1 that he can rely on.

Thats why i said WR in the FA

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I think Floyd finally (FINALLY) developing will be enough of an added ooomph at WR for us; I'm high on Legedu Naanee as well and don't think the coaching staff will give up on Buster Davis quiiiiite yet.

Although I'd like to see a Buster Davis for Michael Bush swap, I think that'd fill a hole for both squads, as much as dealing with the Raiders bothers me.

I know I'm harping on this, but Rivers is just not getting enough time to go through his reads; when he does get time he performs off the charts. O-line>WR this offseason by far.

Jackson, as much as I hate to say it, is STILL developing. He's finally started using his arms this year and lord knows he's big and fast enough to be a number 1. btw, when did his numbers get so good? 44 receptions for 851 yards and 6 tds, with 19.3 per catch.

Pretty nice for a guy who's dropped in and out of the offense quite a bit. He'll be our first 1,000 yard receiver since...since...Tony Martin? If that's right, we suck. It may go back even further, I know Boston didn't do it. Gates did as a TE I guess.
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Hester has only started for 2 games? I see I got my facts wrong then.

He is still a pretty bad blocking FB though. I do not see why the Chargers need a receiving FB with LT/Sproles and Gates.
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Hester has only started for 2 games? I see I got my facts wrong then.

He is still a pretty bad blocking FB though. I do not see why the Chargers need a receiving FB with LT/Sproles and Gates.
Well he made at least one key block last night, on the goal line, which means he's up on Mike Tolbert by an infinite margin. And he's got some soft hands.

But yah I'm not a huge fan of the pick, essentially we gave up a 2nd for him. So if he be a tricky, forgotten option on third downs, I'll take it for now.

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i really like Malcolm Floyd... but im disappointed that chambers and buster davis hasnt made more contribution... whats been wrong with chambers? injured? or just underperforming>
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i really like Malcolm Floyd... but im disappointed that chambers and buster davis hasnt made more contribution... whats been wrong with chambers? injured? or just underperforming>
Chambers got injured in the Dolphins game, and Malcolm Floyd actually took over his spot while he recovered. He's suppose to be completely healed but he has disappeared. I suspect the biggest reason for his disappearance is that the running game has been nonexistent and that a lot of time is devoted to coverage. We're too one dimensional this year.
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i really like Malcolm Floyd... but im disappointed that chambers and buster davis hasnt made more contribution... whats been wrong with chambers? injured? or just underperforming>
We've been rotating receivers a lot and Chambers hasn't gotten many looks. I suspect his ankle is still bothering him quite a bit, he was running like the wind early in the season, no problems getting behind a defense, and now he's invisible.
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looks like woodson is starting at safety for the packers
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Barber didnt travel to Pittsburgh. Choice will be starting.

I'm still worried about Romo.
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Yeah, second week in a row. Last week he played fairly well considering the switch but he made a couple mistakes just from the mindset of being a corner first. He didnt cover well over the top but he should play alot better. We need him to double Andre the Giant.
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Plaxico is on the game ticket for todays matchup between the Giants and Eagles. The irony is hilarious.
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