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Have done one of these in a while. I try to make it different every time just to play out different scenarios.

1. Mike Pouncey, C, Florida
2. Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
3. Curtis Marsh, CB, Utah State
4. Henry Hynoski, FB, Pittsburgh
6. Jeff Maehl, WR, Oregon
7. Jah Reid, OT, UCF
such a god awful mock. pouncey, without the last name, is round 2/3 talent.
- gates in round 2? u nuts?
- 3rd round is way too high for marsh, imo.
- a FB? are you serious? what a wasted pick.
Maehl is good.

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Torrey Smith has very small hands, they measured in at 8 5/8 at the combine. Does this scare anyone? I'm not sure how much hand-size relates to good hands, but it certainly can't help if they're small.
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Torrey Smith has very small hands, they measured in at 8 5/8 at the combine. Does this scare anyone? I'm not sure how much hand-size relates to good hands, but it certainly can't help if they're small.
idk where all this torrey smith love came from.
In all honesty, I wouldn't touch him until the 3rd.
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such a god awful mock. pouncey, without the last name, is round 2/3 talent.
- gates in round 2? u nuts?
- 3rd round is way too high for marsh, imo.
- a FB? are you serious? what a wasted pick.
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Glad I'm not the only one who thinks taking a D2 WR in the 2nd is absurd.
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I don't like Gates as much as say, Titus Young or Jerrell Jernigan, but his level of competition is near meaningless IMO. I understand he's coming from the D2 level, but that hasn't stopped his former teammate Johnny Knox from being successful. Is he raw and a project? Absolutely. That said, from everything I've seen, Gates has all the talent in the world and could most definitely be a starter in time at the NFL level. Joe Flacco came from a D2 school and stepped right into the NFL, he seems to be doing fine for himself. Level of competition is a vastly overrated aspect of scouting IMO. He's 6'0, 190 with legit 4.3 speed. You can't teach those measurables, and from what I understand Gates's stock is on the rise.
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Even if its on the rise, the earliest he should be taken is the 3rd. Not like Knox was taken within the first 3 rounds....
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• Hearing that if one of the top offensive tackle prospects in the draft were to fall to the Ravens at the end of round one, there would definitely be a lot of interest.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...stCombine.html

Interesting. Maybe the chances of being able to re-sign Gaither isn't as likely as we had hoped.
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We met with a lot of the first round tackles at the Senior Bowl and Combine, this doesn't surprise me at all. Drafting a T in the first wouldn't be my ideal scenario, but if Gaither won't be back I don't have a problem with it.
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I wouldn't be happy drafting an OT in the 1st. The position isn't really that strong, and there really isn't a huge drop-off in the 2nd or even 3rd round.

I would much rather move down, get a pass-rusher, or a WR in the 1st.
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I don;t agree with the OT position being weak. If you're looking for a top 10 OT then it's definitely not a good class, but there's solid late-first round value at OT IMO. Solder, Carimi, Sherrod, and Castonzo would all be pretty good picks at the end of the first.
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I don;t agree with the OT position being weak. If you're looking for a top 10 OT then it's definitely not a good class, but there's solid late-first round value at OT IMO. Solder, Carimi, Sherrod, and Castonzo would all be pretty good picks at the end of the first.
I agree, plus this is just posturing from the Ravens front office to gauge the market for Gaither. If a Team is going to go out and sign him and LOSE a draft pick...maybe it's worth resigning him to more than expected or at least can match it. Or we can let him roll out of town and get a pick. I can't see us looking seriously at OT in the 1st though, it would be like when we picked Oher if someone falls that we feel is a great value at that spot then so be it but if not.. we are still taking BPA.
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Torrey Smith has very small hands, they measured in at 8 5/8 at the combine. Does this scare anyone? I'm not sure how much hand-size relates to good hands, but it certainly can't help if they're small.
Where did you see that he has hands listed as 9 5/8" which is bigger than Dez Bryants last year?
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I've seen 8 5/8 on a couple of different sites. http://walterfootball.com/combine2011WR.php, http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...n-results.html, and http://www.footballsfuture.com/2011/combine/wr.html. I know they're listed at the size you quoted on this site, but I think it might be a typo if multiple sites are reporting otherwise.
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I don;t agree with the OT position being weak. If you're looking for a top 10 OT then it's definitely not a good class, but there's solid late-first round value at OT IMO. Solder, Carimi, Sherrod, and Castonzo would all be pretty good picks at the end of the first.
Like I said before, there really isn't a huge drop off in the 2nd.
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Like I said before, there really isn't a huge drop off in the 2nd.
I'm not going to disagree in the sense that I view Solder, Castonzo and Sherrod as 2nd round values.

But the question is, who are the late 2nd round OT's worth taking? Personally, I can't think of any.
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I'm not going to disagree in the sense that I view Solder, Castonzo and Sherrod as 2nd round values.

But the question is, who are the late 2nd round OT's worth taking? Personally, I can't think of any.
I really like Lee Ziemba, and he could probably be had in the 3rd or even 4th.
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I'm not going to disagree in the sense that I view Solder, Castonzo and Sherrod as 2nd round values.

But the question is, who are the late 2nd round OT's worth taking? Personally, I can't think of any.
Pinkston? Cannon? Ijalana? They'll probably go late 2nd/early 3rd but whether they are worth that is another matter
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Pinkston? Cannon? Ijalana? They'll probably go late 2nd/early 3rd but whether they are worth that is another matter
Add that to the fact that Yanda looked excellent at RT and we could fix the o-line with a guard or center. And in that case solid players like Moffit, Cannon, O"Dowd, Barnes, and even Boling could be available anywhere from the 2nd-4th round.
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Im not looking at OTs or OGs in this draft. It will kill me inside if we lose Gaither. It would suck so much.
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No way Ijalana lasts that long. I know I'm all alone in this, but I'd be fine with taking Ijalana at 26. He's a personal favorite of mine, might offer the most upside of any of the OT's and would be a great fit in our system. I agree with thegreatone in that we don't have to go OT as we should be very comfortable with Yanda manning the RT spot. I guy like Clint Boling or Will Rackley in the late 2 range would make a lot more sense that a RT in the 1st.
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1) OLB: Brooks Reed
2) RB: DeMarco Murray.
3) ILB: Nate Irving.
5) WR: Cecil Shorts.
5) CB: Brandyn Thompson.
6) FS: Tejay Johnson.
7) OG: Thomas Claiborne.
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I think at the end of the day Willis will take a pay cut and comeback so we wont need a RB. But im loving Brooks Reed.
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Yanda can play RT adequately, he displayed that last season. He's still better inside at guard, and I would still prefer somebody with a bit more length on the outside. If we're looking for a RT then I agree we shouldn't be looking at the position in the first round. I want to get a LT, thus moving Oher back to the right side. I really don't think getting adding a G is going to improve our line play from last season, we need to re-shuffle the line back to the 2009 form with or without Gaither.
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yea if we go oline its gotta be a first round LT IMO. But still I want Gaither it will be depressing if we let him go. Get Yanda at RG and Oher at RT that gives us the best G combo in the NFL and the nastiest right side in football. It would be perfect.
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