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EDIT: Also, since Espn launched this attack on Owens, do you think they have done the Cowboys a service in disguise?

They would love nothing more than to see Owens implode, but can he now? He's a crazy guy, but could he really come out and say anything publicly about anyone after being attacked like this? Can Owens really do anything other than go out and play his heart out, try to score, prove the media wrong, and say he's in love with Romo after the game?
I wanted to make sure you caught this question
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If people get sick of being a fan because the team doesn't win SBs, then that's classic bandwagon if you ask me. You have to enjoy the moment. Being a fan means having loyalty through thick and thin. It's not like there hasn't been any sense of accomplishment. The Cowboys went 12-4 last year and won the NFC East with little or no fan fare. Conversely, look at the Cards, they won the NFC West this year and they are partying like it's 1995! LMAO.
I normally wouldn't start this discussion, but I've been indirectly called a bandwagonner. Yes, me, a Dallas native and lifetime Cowboys fan called a bandwagonner.

Let's get one thing straight. NFL teams (and any sports franchise) owe us, the fans. Not the other way around. That is how business works. They supply a product (entertainment via athletics) and we consume. To continue to support and consume a terrible product (Clippers, Cardinals, any other historically terrible franchise) is to buy a product you know is terrible. That doesn't make you loyal, that makes you an idiot who is making the system worse.
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I acknowledge the fact that TO can tear up the Cowboys, but that day hasn't yet arrived.

And if history really is a predictor of the future... Look at the Niners and Eagles after TO left them... It's ugly.
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I normally wouldn't start this discussion, but I've been indirectly called a bandwagonner. Yes, me, a Dallas native and lifetime Cowboys fan called a bandwagonner.

Let's get one thing straight. NFL teams (and any sports franchise) owe us, the fans. Not the other way around. That is how business works. They supply a product (entertainment via athletics) and we consume. To continue to support and consume a terrible product (Clippers, Cardinals, any other historically terrible franchise) is to buy a product you know is terrible. That doesn't make you loyal, that makes you an idiot who is making the system worse.
Sounds like your "fanhood" is at stake. haha.

I agree, I think they owe us a good honest effort. I don't agree that they owe us success. If the team isn't winning SBs, I don't think we should stop being any less loyal.

There's no right or wrong answer.. Being a fan can be fun or it can be deathly serious. Everyone of us is a bandwagoner... we had to jump on at some point in our life. Even those born in Dallas.
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again, i don't much care what you believe in terms of owens himself, but i don't see how wade phillips' quotes are any more trustworthy than ed werder's. if it's simply to post a different view on the story, then fair enough.
Well for one thing, Wade is the coach. Werner is an ESPN analyst. One has more inside information than the other. But I can see what you're saying in that Wade could be lying as well. Coaches lie all the time. Guess the only real way to tell is to watch it play out. But whether the Boys win or lose this weekend, that won't matter either, will it...

This is going to be a long process to see the real truth of the matter.

Has the day arrived at which TO destroyed the Cowboys? No.
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Sounds like your "fanhood" is at stake. haha.

I agree, I think they owe us a good honest effort. I don't agree that they owe us success. If the team isn't winning SBs, I don't think we should stop being any less loyal.

There's no right or wrong answer.. Being a fan can be fun or it can be deathly serious. Everyone of us is a bandwagoner... we had to jump on at some point in our life. Even those born in Dallas.
I did feel like my fanhood was questioned, and that's just like Jerry calling out Barber's toughness!

I'm not saying Dallas has gotten to the level of perennial losers who should not have any support remaining from fans, but I'm just getting tired of not even making playoff runs. I don't feel bad for saying that. There's a different standard in Dallas (or there was). I would like to keep having high standards for the team I root for.
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I did feel like my fanhood was questioned, and that's just like Jerry calling out Barber's toughness!

I'm not saying Dallas has gotten to the level of perennial losers who should not have any support remaining from fans, but I'm just getting tired of not even making playoff runs. I don't feel bad for saying that. There's a different standard in Dallas (or there was). I would like to keep having high standards for the team I root for.
Yeah, I think every fan wants their team to win and every team should expect their team to win. But I also believe they should stick through it all even in the darkest times. Blame is fine, giving up isn't. Not saying you gave up or anything. Not saying your fanhood is in question. Just saying there have been some golden nuggets to chew on the last few years and Jerry is not all bad.
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Well Espn just brought on a psychologist to publicly analyze T.O. and what goes on in his head...

I find that extremely disrespectful. Am I wrong in thinking Espn just hit a new all time low?

Honestly, the guy is a prick, but they are almost treating him like an animal. It's no wonder he refuses to talk to werder.
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Calvin Watkins is reporting they had a 30 minute team meeting about this. Everyone got everything out in the air, multiple players spoke about rallying together and blocking this out... using it as fuel. Apparently everyone said they enjoyed the fact that they were able to come together like this.

We'll see what happens.

EDIT: Watkins just added this to his morning chat--

Calvin Watkins: T.O. said he's fine with Jason Witten and Tony Romo and said everything is fine. Owens said he's upset at ESPN for its report that he's jealous of Jason Witten. Owens said that's not true. He respects Witten and Romo and wants to play for them both.

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Usually I ignore these types of things. Unfortunately, with the ever increasing popularity of the sport--and by extension the demand for coverage of all things NFL--there are casualties. This is one of them.

The "fire" that is producing the smoke that everyone is seeing likely consists of the following:

- TO is unhappy that he is not seeing more balls thrown his way.
- TO feels that Romo throws the ball to Witten in key situations when he should, in fact, throw it to TO
- Romo absolutely does do so, though whether he is justified is debatable.
- Roy Williams is not getting the opportunities he should have.
- Wade Phillips doesn't run a tight enough ship to keep things like this in house no matter what

Now, I'm sure that nearly everyone on this site has played organized football at one point in time or another. If you've ever been a wideout, you feel like you should get the ball more often, that you are open on nearly every play, and that the QB is not throwing to you for some reason other than your ability to make plays. This happens at every level of football, no matter what the circumstances. Paranoia is a normal response generated by the ego to protect our fragile psyches.

But guess what, most of these things have a root in truth. Romo does throw to Witten when things get dire. Its just a comfort level and a trust factor that he's developed with JW that isn't there with TO. I can't explain it, but if I was TO, I would be upset myself. No biggie there.

The question here is one of "chemistry." Ah. The ever-present, indefinable quality that is often used as a crutch for people looking to make arguments against a team without having anything to really back them up.

So let's look to the only REAL evidence of anything along those lines: the games. Dallas is playing very, very good football right now. We have done so since coming back from the bye week. No one can argue that we came out last week and out-toughed a Pittsburgh team that prides itself of its toughness. We played with heart, with passion, and with a nastiness that I've not seen out of this team since the great rebuilding began in 2003. We physically dominated a team that was considered to be the most physically dominant team in the NFL. But we lost, so that is being swept under the rug.

Why did we lose? Romo. Tony played the 3rd worst game of his career (the other two being at home against Philly in 06 and 07) and threw the game losing pick 6 to seal it.

But the team played great. A team that is imploding does not play like that.

TO is a great player, and no matter how he feels, he always plays full speed, giving it everything he's got. Neither side of the ball is showing any signs of deterioration. The team is in a bit of a hole record wise, and facing an incredibly difficult slate of games to finish the year, but they are still playing good football.

I could care less about this soap opera. I don't pay attention to the NFL to listen about feelings and confessions of frustration. I tune in for the football. That has been great, and shows no sign of getting worse. As soon as all this starts to effect the product, then I will acknowledge it.
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This story will never die: ESPN will milk any TO story til the end of time.
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On ESPNnews is streaming the Michael Irvin show and Michael said TO told him Garret called the meeting. I dont care what ESPN has to say about TO because everything gets blown up when it involves TO and the Cowboys.
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I truly think TO has mental issues i really believe that his ego is above anyone with a normal sanity. TO cant get along with anyone unless they embrace his ego and make him number 1 and praise him. He was fussing for weeks about the lack of offense when romo was out and then he gets his 200yrd game and he was all happy again then one bad game he is back to his bitchy self.
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Well Espn just brought on a psychologist to publicly analyze T.O. and what goes on in his head...

I find that extremely disrespectful. Am I wrong in thinking Espn just hit a new all time low?

Honestly, the guy is a prick, but they are almost treating him like an animal. It's no wonder he refuses to talk to werder.
You'll continue to watch though.

(Thats the point)
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Look at the Niners and Eagles after TO left them... It's ugly.
What happened with the Niners is hardly the result of simply TO.
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What my point was meant to mean was that they were worse of without him on the football field. Not that he was the main cause for their demise. What happened with the Niners was A LOT of things. TO leaving was just one thing. Your WRs corps have never been the same.
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On ESPNnews is streaming the Michael Irvin show and Michael said TO told him Garret called the meeting. I dont care what ESPN has to say about TO because everything gets blown up when it involves TO and the Cowboys.
Who cares about facts or the truth?

Let's hear more anonymous complaints and crippled rhetoric supposedly gathered together in a flimsy Ed Werder story, after their first loss and during Giants' week! Drama drama dramazzz, brought to you by the World wide leader!

(... in creating ******** stories and not breaking the actual news, that is. Schefter and Glazer can waste their time with that crap. Instead let's have John Clayton tell us about injuries around the league, Mark Schlereth to talk about the dynamics of coming together as a team, Mike Golic to pick games, and then Todd McShay can talk about the Draft. It doesn't get better than that, no sir.)
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As it turns out, Terrell Owens’ suspicions regarding teammate Jason Witten might have been on the mark.

The talk in the Cowboys locker room is that Witten was one of the sources for Ed Werder’s recent ESPN item, which has sparked a firestorm within the organization.

Per a league source, center Andre Gurode and receiver Roy Williams called out Witten in a team meeting regarding their belief that he has been talking out of school to Werder, accusing Witten and/or his agent of feeding the information to Werder — as the song “Back Stabbers” played in the background.

According to our source (and it pains us to type this), Owens isn’t as bad as he’s made out to be in the media (i.e., by ESPN).

“Ed Werder didn’t make anything up,” the source said. “Witten or his agent gave the story.”

And here’s where it gets really interesting. Witten’s agent is Jimmy Sexton. And Sexton represents — you guessed it — former Cowboys coach Bill Parcells.

Parcells wanted no part of Owens, and presumably Parcells would love nothing more than to see the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs in the same year that Parcells is in the process of propelling the previously 1-15 Fins toward the postseason.

We’re not saying that Tuna has his finger in this one, after all he’s not the kind of guy who’d stick his nose in business that doesn’t pertain to him. We’re just pointing out the straight line from Witten to Sexton to Parcells, who by the way drafted Witten in 2003, the same year that Parcells signed Romo as an undrafted free agent.
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As it turns out, Terrell Owens’ suspicions regarding teammate Jason Witten might have been on the mark.

The talk in the Cowboys locker room is that Witten was one of the sources for Ed Werder’s recent ESPN item, which has sparked a firestorm within the organization.

Per a league source, center Andre Gurode and receiver Roy Williams called out Witten in a team meeting regarding their belief that he has been talking out of school to Werder, accusing Witten and/or his agent of feeding the information to Werder — as the song “Back Stabbers” played in the background.

According to our source (and it pains us to type this), Owens isn’t as bad as he’s made out to be in the media (i.e., by ESPN).

“Ed Werder didn’t make anything up,” the source said. “Witten or his agent gave the story.”

And here’s where it gets really interesting. Witten’s agent is Jimmy Sexton. And Sexton represents — you guessed it — former Cowboys coach Bill Parcells.

Parcells wanted no part of Owens, and presumably Parcells would love nothing more than to see the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs in the same year that Parcells is in the process of propelling the previously 1-15 Fins toward the postseason.

We’re not saying that Tuna has his finger in this one, after all he’s not the kind of guy who’d stick his nose in business that doesn’t pertain to him. We’re just pointing out the straight line from Witten to Sexton to Parcells, who by the way drafted Witten in 2003, the same year that Parcells signed Romo as an undrafted free agent.
"Back Stabbers" lol. Parcells plotting the downfall of the Cowboys. Witten as a double agent. ESPN should run this stuff!!!
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if true, i'm hopeful that someone will slap roy williams and remind him that a guy who's caught 13 balls in 6 total games with a team has no business calling out anyone. roy should probably be focusing on how to outplay shaun mcdonald instead of helping to incite divisive locker room drama.
A 1st and 3rd round pick for him....
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When watching the Cowboys I completely forget that Roy is on the team. When he does catch a ball Im surprised that he's there.
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Well, Williams has been in the offense for all of 8 or so weeks now. Hardly enough time to fully integrate into the offense and have full-fledged chemistry with Romo.

Sheesh, I'm turning into a Cowboys apologist thanks to this thread.
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A 1st and a 3rd doesn't bother me. Then again, it doesn't bother me because I'm still upset about two 1sts for Joey Galloway... :'(
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