Draft Countdown Forums

Go Back   Draft Countdown Forums > Draft Countdown Forums > Pro Football

Pro Football Discuss professional football.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-24-2008, 11:38 AM    (permalink
bored of education
DC Creeper
Icon
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 16,627
Reputation: 1057989
bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default A changing of defensive schemes (4-3 to 3-4 or 3-4 to 4-3)

Do you see any trends occuring with the amount of hirings and firings that may or may not happen?

Will many teams have to change schemes?

For instance, if Mangini and Crennel are offed and get DC jobs elsewhere..would a change be in line or would they only accept offers from teams with those schemes in which they 'coach'.

Could we see a team like the Rams go to a 3-4 ?

I really think it has alot to do with the coaching situations and not many changes have been made yet.
__________________
my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
<TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
<+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermstheman83 View Post
What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

Last edited by bored of education : 12-24-2008 at 12:05 PM.
bored of education is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 11:42 AM    (permalink
tjsunstein
Mr. Rodgers' Neighborhood
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Resident Clippers fan
Posts: 15,756
Reputation: 1172327
tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.tjsunstein is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I can see a team switching only if they've hit rock bottom defensively. It takes alot to switch schemes. You pretty much have to devote an offseason to it.
__________________

tjsunstein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 11:42 AM    (permalink
PACKmanN
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: toronto
Posts: 7,049
Reputation: 114301
PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I don't think it would be smart for the Rams to switch to a 34, I could also see Crennel going back with the Patriots, if McDonald leaves and takes some coaches with him, and Mangini being not offered a job.
__________________
PACKmanN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 11:52 AM    (permalink
iBoldin
Veteran
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,295
Reputation: 45709
iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

There was some discussions last year on here on the Bengals and Rams possibly switching to a 3-4. I can't see either team doing so right away, though.

Personally, I think you need to have the right personnel off the field, in terms of coaches, then on the field, before all.

Thing is with St. Louis, does Chris Long fit in a 3-4? Who else do they have besides Adam Carriker to move to a 3-4 defensive end position? How would Will Weatherspoon (who is much better outside then inside from what I've seen) fit in as a ILB?

The secondary also needs much more experience "fending" for themselves. I think with the Rams, you have too many holes to worry about switching at least to a hybrid for another few years.

A team I could see moving to a 3-4 is Cincinnati, like previously mentioned. Obviously they would need to draft some pieces, but they have decent personnel right now. I was one that liked Keith Rivers in a inside position in a 3-4 last year. Domata Peko could be an undersized nose because he "gobbles" up blocks from when I've watched of the Bengals. They would probably need some pass rushers, but I think Geathers could do it.

More or less, I think it's too much of a project for some teams. We've seen how long it took Mangini to re tool the Jets' D to his preference and how it could be gone before it even gets to work well.

Maybe I'm rambling on too much about it, so to keep it short. There are a few too many things to do for one offseason, and really, it's just a mess when you can't devote the time over a few years to do it.

What I like about the Jets' defense, is they have a lot of space eaters up front with Ellis and Jenkins, which frees up the linebackers and safeties off the edge. That's a key cog in a 3-4, guys up front that can take blocks, but have enough to stop the run and rush the passers enough to not just be dead weight.
iBoldin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 12:07 PM    (permalink
bored of education
DC Creeper
Icon
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 16,627
Reputation: 1057989
bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I hear you IBoldin..it seems like a 3 years process at least to make the change, nevermind if you are a terrible team you have to focus on all your needs nevermind changing the whole defense and getting the right players to fit in it
__________________
my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
<TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
<+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermstheman83 View Post
What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
bored of education is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 12:24 PM    (permalink
CashmoneyDrew
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Ohhhhh yeeeaahhyya
Posts: 16,585
Reputation: 4380497
CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Adam Carriker could probably make a good 3-4 DE if the Rams chose to do that. Not sure how Chris Long would be at OLB though.
__________________
Credit to BoneKrusher for the Sig
RIP themaninblack
CashmoneyDrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 12:47 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 29,182
Reputation: 4191549
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

NO is long overdue for a switch to the Tampa 2. Although I don't know how well Tracy Porter would fit in a Tampa 2 scheme. Or least switch to a man Tampa 2 scheme kinda like the Bears have.

Buffalo needs to let go of the Cover 2 scheme

Im not a big fan of Atlanta's defense at all.

Denver needs to play defense....period.

Cleveland needs to scrap the 3-4 or draft players for it. Wimbley has been a bust. Ditto for Corey Williams.
__________________
bigbluedefense is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 12:51 PM    (permalink
bored of education
DC Creeper
Icon
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 16,627
Reputation: 1057989
bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense View Post
NO is long overdue for a switch to the Tampa 2. Although I don't know how well Tracy Porter would fit in a Tampa 2 scheme. Or least switch to a man Tampa 2 scheme kinda like the Bears have.

Buffalo needs to let go of the Cover 2 scheme

Im not a big fan of Atlanta's defense at all.

Denver needs to play defense....period.

Cleveland needs to scrap the 3-4 or draft players for it. Wimbley has been a bust. Ditto for Corey Williams.
I hear you sir. I think the Chiefs are fine scheme wise ..just need better coaching and a few more players lol!
__________________
my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
<TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
<+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermstheman83 View Post
What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
bored of education is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 12:53 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 29,182
Reputation: 4191549
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bored of education View Post
I hear you sir. I think the Chiefs are fine scheme wise ..just need better coaching and a few more players lol!
Chiefs are fine with their scheme. They like you said need a couple more pieces and a better coach.

Raheem Morris ftw.

You guys need a DE badly. Along with a lot of other things, you're 2 years away, or 1 really good offseason away.

I think Thigpen deserves a shot.
__________________
bigbluedefense is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 12:55 PM    (permalink
PACKmanN
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: toronto
Posts: 7,049
Reputation: 114301
PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.PACKmanN is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VoodooMonkey View Post
Adam Carriker could probably make a good 3-4 DE if the Rams chose to do that. Not sure how Chris Long would be at OLB though.
not only that plus they have Little, their better DE who has to find a fit at OLB and didn't Glover leave Dallas because he wanted to play in a 43?
__________________
PACKmanN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:04 PM    (permalink
CC.SD
Shock Therapist
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,460
Reputation: 1827586
CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VoodooMonkey View Post
Adam Carriker could probably make a good 3-4 DE if the Rams chose to do that. Not sure how Chris Long would be at OLB though.
I think those are both good fits, personally.

I've noticed the Bolts have been showing more 4-3 alignments lately; definitely Ron Rivera working behind the scenes. We're still mainly 3-4 though.

The Chiefs; I don't think they'll be changing schemes, Tamba Hali is a 4-3 End to the bone. Apparently their stats are not great, but they come to play whenever I catch them. Then again, I usually only see them play inter-divisional games.

I really hope Thigpen convinces the Chiefs to pass on a QB...
CC.SD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:07 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 29,182
Reputation: 4191549
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Who cares what fits in St. Louis?

The entire defense sucks anyway. You can overhaul it any way you want, theres not 1 single player on that defense that forces you to limit the possibilities.

Yes i know of Chris Long, but he's capable of adjusting to any scheme.

Im pretty sure management gives 2 shits about what LaRoi Glover and Leonard Little think.
__________________
bigbluedefense is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:11 PM    (permalink
vidae
SWDC Mafia
Legend
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Welcome back to my ranch ya turds.
Posts: 28,326
Reputation: 8504142
vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.vidae is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CC.SD View Post
I think those are both good fits, personally.

I've noticed the Bolts have been showing more 4-3 alignments lately; definitely Ron Rivera working behind the scenes. We're still mainly 3-4 though.

The Chiefs; I don't think they'll be changing schemes, Tamba Hali is a 4-3 End to the bone. Apparently their stats are not great, but they come to play whenever I catch them. Then again, I usually only see them play inter-divisional games.

I really hope Thigpen convinces the Chiefs to pass on a QB...
Our scheme is fine as it is but we are missing a few key pieces to run it: pass rushing terror DE and a MLB who can play in the cover 2.

And yeah, our defensive stats are not that great but if you look at the details I believe we're + in turnover ratio and top 5 in forcing turnovers. If we could get any pressure we might be decent. The scheme is sort of working though, just can't get to the QB with the personnel we have.

And yeah, I hope Thigpen has proven he can play and will be given a year. We have much bigger needs at this point than QB, especially if it's going to be Bradford. If we somehow picked up Stafford I MIGHT be able to shrug it off but I don't want Bradford anywhere near KC.
__________________


** RIP themaninblack. You will be missed. **
vidae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:14 PM    (permalink
bored of education
DC Creeper
Icon
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 16,627
Reputation: 1057989
bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense View Post
Who cares what fits in St. Louis?

The entire defense sucks anyway. You can overhaul it any way you want, theres not 1 single player on that defense that forces you to limit the possibilities.

Yes i know of Chris Long, but he's capable of adjusting to any scheme.

Im pretty sure management gives 2 shits about what LaRoi Glover and Leonard Little think.
That is exactly how I feel. If a change is needed then so be it, and if a change is made because of a coaching change so be it. It's just that it might take a few years to occur and any gm/ownership group should now that lol..SHOULD!
__________________
my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
<TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
<+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermstheman83 View Post
What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
bored of education is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:16 PM    (permalink
CC.SD
Shock Therapist
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,460
Reputation: 1827586
CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CC.SD is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Honestly, the Rams might be better off campaigning Goodell for a Disaster Draft.
CC.SD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:20 PM    (permalink
bored of education
DC Creeper
Icon
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 16,627
Reputation: 1057989
bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bored of education is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bored of education View Post
That is exactly how I feel. If a change is needed then so be it, and if a change is made because of a coaching change so be it. It's just that it might take a few years to occur and any gm/ownership group should know that lol..SHOULD!
by no means am I just singling out a team like the Rams or Chiefs. I am saying in general and what types of changes may occur via coaching changes etc
__________________
my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
<TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
<+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
<+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermstheman83 View Post
What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
bored of education is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:20 PM    (permalink
Ward
Administrator
All-NFLDC
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: A thread near you!
Posts: 13,772
Reputation: 24270
Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Ward is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tjsunstein View Post
I can see a team switching only if they've hit rock bottom defensively. It takes alot to switch schemes. You pretty much have to devote an offseason to it.
The Cowboys had the #1 defense (statistically) in the NFL as a 4-3 the year before Parcells arrived. And it wasn't like we had a ton of tweeners on the roster either. We did it with undersized linebackers, oversized safeties, and an attacking D-line led by Laroi Glover at his best.
Ward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:23 PM    (permalink
CashmoneyDrew
Icon
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Ohhhhh yeeeaahhyya
Posts: 16,585
Reputation: 4380497
CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.CashmoneyDrew is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PACKmanN View Post
not only that plus they have Little, their better DE who has to find a fit at OLB and didn't Glover leave Dallas because he wanted to play in a 43?
I was completely shocked when I found out he was going to play DE in the pros considering up until his senior year he was a 215 lb linebacker. I was pretty young then though.
__________________
Credit to BoneKrusher for the Sig
RIP themaninblack
CashmoneyDrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:41 PM    (permalink
SuperMcGee
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 40 light-years outside of the Buttermilk Nebula
Posts: 25,075
Reputation: 5278361
SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.SuperMcGee is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbluedefense View Post
Buffalo needs to let go of the Cover 2 scheme
Man, do we ever. What do we possess that would encourage using this scheme? Who on this team is so much better suited for it? Not much is coming to mind on the line and secondary, and Poz and Mitchell certainly aren't tailored for it. Nevermind the fact that it just hasn't worked for us.
SuperMcGee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:44 PM    (permalink
bigbluedefense
Team Leader
Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 29,182
Reputation: 4191549
bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.bigbluedefense is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMcgee View Post
Man, do we ever. What do we possess that would encourage using this scheme? Who on this team is so much better suited for it? Not much is coming to mind on the line and secondary, and Poz and Mitchell certainly aren't tailored for it. Nevermind the fact that it just hasn't worked for us.
Jauron needs to be let go of.

I think that Bills team has talent. its just horribly used. Kawika is beasting it for you guys. you guys could use a stud DE on defense though.
__________________
bigbluedefense is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:51 PM    (permalink
Menardo75
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 6,182
Reputation: 225875
Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Menardo75 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Singletary has switched the Niners to a true hybrid defense and it has been awesome. I would expect them to keep things that way.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by 49erNation85 View Post
I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.
Menardo75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 01:51 PM    (permalink
iBoldin
Veteran
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,295
Reputation: 45709
iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.iBoldin is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

Another bit to add into the discussion;

I think we are going to see a transformation which allows teams to play both base defenses, in a hybrid like defense. Arizona has done a lot of that this year, as has San Diego and San Francisco. The athletic ability of some players were seeing and some players that should be coming into the draft this year (the Brian Orakpo's, the Everette Brown's, etc.) it allows teams to be more comfortable in anything they run.

And it's not a knock against the offensive line either. You can have a pro bowl line out there, but with these times, you are sure to be exploited one way or another, by way of stunts, or zone blitzes, etc.

More of a testament to the athletic ability of some players nowadays, then schemes, but thought it would spark some more discussion.
iBoldin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 04:56 PM    (permalink
BufFan71
Pro Bowler
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,507
Reputation: 13627
BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.BufFan71 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

i could see Buffalo moving potentially to a 3-4

draft a NT in Terrence Cody
have stroud and potentially kyle willams or spencer johnson at the ends

Schobel at OLB, POZ at MLB, and Mitchell at either OLB or MLB

our DB's are set. all we need is a nose and another LB, both can be filled in either FA or the draft easily
__________________
BufFan71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 05:11 PM    (permalink
Xiomera
Hall of Famer
Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 36,978
Reputation: 1496464
Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.Xiomera is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

I'm praying that the Lions switch to a 3-4. They'd be one of only a couple teams in the NFC who run it, and the only one in the division.

At the vey least this would give our opponants something a little different to gameplan for.

One of my biggest criticisms of the Lions in the past decade has been that they're always slow at adapting new schemes. West Coast Offense? Tampa 2 Defense? By the time the Lions started running these systems, half the teams in the NFL were running them. That's not innovative, that's just stupid.
__________________
R.I.P. L.E.F.
"I am the one who knocks!"
Xiomera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2008, 05:37 PM    (permalink
stephenson86
All-Pro
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 7,858
Reputation: 246025
stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.stephenson86 is kind of a big deal around here, people know him.
Default

i love being the lions on madden, release everyone but calvin johnson and then rebuild
stephenson86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.