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12-24-2008, 03:07 PM
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Not good timed speed? Scott, I gotta question your credibility on this one as he's generally timed in the 4.55 range and his only timed runs have been on the USC campus. So, I'm not really sure where you're getting something like that, unless you're making it up. I'm sure you'll say you've been told that by someone else to cover your own butt, but it's just not true. So what's the point of presenting something as a truth when it's blatantly false?
And what exactly has he done the last two years to make him "immature?" He's the captain of the USC defense, not something that's given to half-wit buffoons.
Other than those two things, though, good report. Better than the Curry one.
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12-24-2008, 03:10 PM
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Not good timed speed? Scott, I gotta question your credibility on this one as he's generally timed in the 4.55 range and his only timed runs have been on the USC campus. So, I'm not really sure where you're getting something like that, unless you're making it up. I'm sure you'll say you've been told that by someone else to cover your own butt, but it's just not true. So what's the point of presenting something as a truth when it's blatantly false?
And what exactly has he done the last two years to make him "immature?" He's the captain of the USC defense, not something that's given to half-wit buffoons.
Other than those two things, though, good report. Better than the Curry one.
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Exactly his point.
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12-24-2008, 03:11 PM
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Not good timed speed? Scott, I gotta question your credibility on this one as he's generally timed in the 4.55 range and his only timed runs have been on the USC campus. So, I'm not really sure where you're getting something like that, unless you're making it up. I'm sure you'll say you've been told that by someone else to cover your own butt, but it's just not true. So what's the point of presenting something as a truth when it's blatantly false?
And what exactly has he done the last two years to make him "immature?" He's the captain of the USC defense, not something that's given to half-wit buffoons.
Other than those two things, though, good report. Better than the Curry one.
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12-24-2008, 03:15 PM
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If you have a problem with Scott Wright, maybe you should become a member of some other draft site. Not trying to be rude, but your post was kind of disrespectable.
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12-24-2008, 03:19 PM
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Can't say I appreciate you questioning my credibility or implying that I would make something up. That's pretty rude in my opinion...
As for Maualuga, there has been no indication that he is going to surprise anyone with his forty speed. He was a 4.7 guy coming out of high school and the consensus is that's what he will run in workouts. USC sources may say he ran a 4.55 but they have a fast track and are notorious for inflating their prospects time. I stand by my evaluation about his speed 100% and I'll be SHOCKED if he breaks a 4.6 at any point during the pre-draft process In terms of his maturity, he has gotten in trouble for fighting at parties on more than one occasion, he has fallen asleep in meetings, etc. I'm not saying he's a bad guy or that he hasn't made strides the past couple of years, he is just a little immature. Lots of people in their early 20's are.
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12-24-2008, 03:25 PM
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If I can piggyback on this thread, I also have a question about the Maualuga scouting report.
Scott, you say that Maualuga has "Average change of direction skills". Don't disagree with you, but that seems to imply that he's better in this regard than Aaron Curry, described by you as having "Marginal change of direction skills".
Do you think Rey's change of direction skills are better than Curry's? Though Curry may be a little stiff-hipped, I don't see him being worse than Maualuga.
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12-24-2008, 03:32 PM
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Exactly his point.
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Which can't be true! You can't say someone runs slow when the only times that are out have him in the 4.55 range.
Maybe you should rephrase that part Scott to something like "Reportedly ran a 4.59 during USC spring practice, but will likely run slower in workouts." It's more factually correct. And what I'm looking at says he was a 4.5 guy coming out of high school, not that it matters considering that's four years and 15-20 pounds ago.
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12-24-2008, 03:32 PM
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12-24-2008, 03:36 PM
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Which can't be true! You can't say someone runs slow when the only times that are out have him in the 4.55 range.
Maybe you should rephrase that part Scott to something like "Reportedly ran a 4.59 during USC spring practice, but will likely run slower in workouts." It's more factually correct. And what I'm looking at says he was a 4.5 guy coming out of high school, not that it matters considering that's four years and 15-20 pounds ago.
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First of all, show us proof of said times, second of all, he said not good speed, which implies that he will not run well at the combine, and does not say that he was never timed at a 4.55 on the USC campus. What he said was in no way factually incorrect, so please stop.
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If I can piggyback on this thread, I also have a question about the Maualuga scouting report.
Scott, you say that Maualuga has "Average change of direction skills". Don't disagree with you, but that seems to imply that he's better in this regard than Aaron Curry, described by you as having "Marginal change of direction skills".
Do you think Rey's change of direction skills are better than Curry's? Though Curry may be a little stiff-hipped, I don't see him being worse than Maualuga.
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Welcome to the boards!
It's really semantics in a situation like that.
It's somewhat close but Curry has better COD than Maualuga.
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12-24-2008, 03:41 PM
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First of all, show us proof of said times, second of all, he said not good speed, which implies that he will not run well at the combine, and does not say that he was never timed at a 4.55 on the USC campus. What he said was in no way factually incorrect, so please stop.
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Stop what exactly? Questioning something?
Here is the Maualuga time from someone who covers USC for a living:
http://www.insidesocal.com/usc/archi...nebackers.html
For some reason, his scouting report says 4.75.
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Maybe you should rephrase that part Scott to something like "Reportedly ran a 4.59 during USC spring practice, but will likely run slower in workouts." It's more factually correct. And what I'm looking at says he was a 4.5 guy coming out of high school, not that it matters considering that's four years and 15-20 pounds ago.
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Scouts adjust a 4.59 run on a fast track like USC's anyway and that would equate to a 4.7.
BTW, Rivals had Maualuga as a 4.72 guy out of high school.
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12-24-2008, 03:43 PM
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That's a 4.6 on with USC's timing. The scouting report is a general estimate until the combine, and a good rule of thumb with USC times is to add about a tenth of a second, putting Maualuga at a 4.7. I'm saying stop questioning things without thinking a little bit about them first.
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12-24-2008, 03:45 PM
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Scouts adjust a 4.59 run on a fast track like USC's anyway and that would equate to a 4.7.
BTW, Rivals had Maualuga as a 4.72 guy out of high school.
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And Scout has him at 4.52. I'm kind of curious to see who exactly has proof of USC having a fast track too. Can anyone even say what kind of times guys had outside of this year's players? Go find that one and prove it, otherwise the fast track stuff is conjecture to me.
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12-24-2008, 03:46 PM
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By the way, I like how this reputation thing went down 200 points in 10 minutes because I have the gall to question THE Scott Wright.
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And Scout has him at 4.52. I'm kind of curious to see who exactly has proof of USC having a fast track too. Can anyone even say what kind of times guys had outside of this year's players? Go find that one and prove it, otherwise the fast track stuff is conjecture to me.
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And Scout has him at 4.52. I'm kind of curious to see who exactly has proof of USC having a fast track too. Can anyone even say what kind of times guys had outside of this year's players? Go find that one and prove it, otherwise the fast track stuff is conjecture to me.
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Just about every year guys who run fast at the USC track run quite a bit slower at the NFL combine. Find previous USC times and compare them to combine times.
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Oh hey look, an anonymous poster questioning Scott Wright (who puts his real name on the line) and his credibility. What is your glass house like WarOnTheShore?
Scott, ignore the hater. Keep the reports coming, it's just making us all want more!
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12-24-2008, 03:47 PM
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I'm curious myself as to what makes a "fast track" exactly that.
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By the way, I like how this reputation thing went down 200 points in 10 minutes because I have the gall to question THE Scott Wright.
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I don't think people are negative repping you for questioning me, it's the disrespectful way you are going about it.
People who have been around these boards know I encourage discussion and constructive criticism.
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I'm curious myself as to what makes a "fast track" exactly that.
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I don't know if it's the track, it could just be hand timed or something or possibly skewed to get their players extra attention from scouts.
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12-24-2008, 03:49 PM
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I'm not hating! What is so wrong with actually questioning someone instead of just being a blind sheep going "wow, everything here is done perfectly right and no one else knows better."
And what do you mean anonymous? What, should I post my social security number with my posts?
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I'm not hating! What is so wrong with actually questioning someone instead of just being a blind sheep going "wow, everything here is done perfectly right and no one else knows better."
And what do you mean anonymous? What, should I post my social security number with my posts?
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As for proof that USC has a fast track:
* Last year Sedrick Ellis shaved three tenths of a second off of his Combine time.
* Thomas Williams went from a 4.86 in Indy to a mid-4.6 at the Pro Day.
I could go on but it's a well established fast that Southern Cal has a fast track.
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