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View Poll Results: Who do you want the Lions to hire as Head Coach?
Mike Shanahan 7 15.91%
Steve Spagnuolo 11 25.00%
Marty Schottenheimer 5 11.36%
Josh McDaniels 3 6.82%
Jim Schwartz 7 15.91%
Leslie Frazier 1 2.27%
Jason Garrett 6 13.64%
Other (please explain) 4 9.09%
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:17 AM    (permalink
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I heard a strong rumor based on some facts that indicate Brian Billick will be our new HC. 2 of the coaches retained by the team have ties to Billick which might explain why they were kept on board. However it is still only a rumor.
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with the horse jockey entering this debate i would like to see him as our head coach, very experienced coach who could turn this team around
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i don't fully believe that kowalski logic. billick had some hard years in baltimore without a real qb and if he wants to coach, then he'll have to be willing to understand that there will be 'lump' periods. heck watching all of our games proves that he's willing to weather a storm.
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I heard a strong rumor based on some facts that indicate Brian Billick will be our new HC. 2 of the coaches retained by the team have ties to Billick which might explain why they were kept on board. However it is still only a rumor.
I heard there's no way he's coming here. Apparently he sought council from a high-ranking somebody who warned him not to come to Detroit cause he couldn't win here.

I don't think Billick fits the Lions new "organizational plan." It's merely coincidental that Colletto and Gash were retained, which is only temporary anyways.
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I heard there's no way he's coming here. Apparently he sought council from a high-ranking somebody who warned him not to come to Detroit cause he couldn't win here.

I don't think Billick fits the Lions new "organizational plan." It's merely coincidental that Colletto and Gash were retained, which is only temporary anyways.
I heard that rumor too. Billick asked for more time to decide and the Lions said no. They were planning on doing a bunch of token interviews like with Mooch. Don't know how true that is, its just typcial internet rumors.

We kept more than Colletto and Gash though. Mayhew or whoever stated it was because they were good coaches and the new coach might want to keep them instead of just let them go. Could be bs, unknown at ths point. But the new coach will ultimately decide their fate.

I think we should just promote Stan Kwan to head coach. Kwan is the Man(pronounced Mon).
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MLive says we're interviewing Miami Asst. HC Todd Bowles . . . whoever the hell he is . . .
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i'm waiting for them to start announcing that we're interviewing high school coaches
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The football coach at my high school played for the Lions briefly in the 1980's.

I think he's qualified in Mr. Ford's eyes.
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I really think Josh McDaniels would be a good canidate. He's young, and he is a tough guy from what I've seen. Not Brian Billik...
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I put Shanahan at the top of the list right above Schott and Spaghetti. McDaniels is interesting very interesting but the success of The Hoodie's COs has been bad two just got fired and one really should be. Shanahan takes 6th round guys makes them into players you'd trade for. 2nd round picks into all stars. Small linemen into gold. My vote is for Shanahan
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Hope you don't mind if I weigh in. I think Shanny and McDaniel will not be possibilities. Shanny will want full personal control, and I think that McDaniel will follow Pioli.
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Hope you don't mind if I weigh in. I think Shanny and McDaniel will not be possibilities. Shanny will want full personal control, and I think that McDaniel will follow Pioli.
Definitely agree on that. No way on Shannahan or McDaneil.

Spags, Schwartz, Heimerdinger,Frazier

One name we're not looking at who would be interesting would be Dan Reeves. Heard on radio today he would be interested in coaching again.

Billick seems like a no go per that rumor, but you never know.

Whoever it is, we need some damn decent personnel for him. It's going to take time to get the D they want. Spags has Giants Dline,Pierce,Ross etc, Schwartz has Hayneworth,Bulluck,Griffin and 4 big free agents in VandenBosch,Harper,Thornton,Hope. Lions got Sims,Avril and the hope that offensive players trip on the turf at Ford Field.

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Spagnhuolo is the best choice he as the four things you look for in coach for a bad team; mentor, system, championship experiance, and hunger.
Mentors) He worked under Andy Reid and Jim Johnson in philly in addition to his time with Coughlin in New York. These are three coaches who have been succesfull for a long time so he has seen how winners work.

System)This year he kept the Giants D playing at a high level despite injuries and the retirement of a hall of famer, that's good coaching and a system that works.

Championship)He was an important part of a championship team. Coaches that are part of the braintrust of teams with rings do well when they move up to the top spot.

Hunger)I'm wary of coaches who don't have anything to prove Shanahan and Bilick already have a good track record if they lose in Detroit it won't ruin their name, people will say it was the franchise not the coach. For an unproven guy he has the extra motivation of wanting to prove their worth.
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as a Miami fan, let me say that I think he'd be a pretty good hire for you guys. I'd hate to lose him, but he did wonders with our secondary. He made Andre Goodman look like a very good starter (who had a very good year this year), and made Nathan Jones look like an actual CB, and not just a ST player.

He was originally slated to be our DC when Sparano took over, but he wanted to focus on the secondary so he was given the Asst. HC title.
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I figure it will be Dennis Green formaly of Minny and Arizona. What bright HC or even old recycled HC would want to stake their career on Mayhew finding the talent to win.
The solid people in the NFL are just shaking their heads in disbelief over Mayhew's getting the GM position. No qualifications equals another disaster in the making and what HC will want to be a part of that. That leaves Denny Green or perhaps Art Schell as the 2 most likely candidates as they are probably desperate enough to consider taking the job.
I doubt anybody who really believes he can coach will pick Detroit as his next location. Welcome to the world of Oakland Raider fans.
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lol, when i think of underachieving or just plain bad teams, dennis green always pops in my head too. they might as well throw money at my childhood hero jim harbaugh. i heard he's about to sign an extension with stanford, but oakland wants him. if he coaches for us a few years and then gets canned then he can probably upgrade from stanford to a different college for more money. although i wouldn't leave stanford if i were him.
captain comeback could resurrect the lions. although does a win count as a resurrection at this point?
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I figure it will be Dennis Green formaly of Minny and Arizona. What bright HC or even old recycled HC would want to stake their career on Mayhew finding the talent to win.
The solid people in the NFL are just shaking their heads in disbelief over Mayhew's getting the GM position. No qualifications equals another disaster in the making and what HC will want to be a part of that. That leaves Denny Green or perhaps Art Schell as the 2 most likely candidates as they are probably desperate enough to consider taking the job.
I doubt anybody who really believes he can coach will pick Detroit as his next location. Welcome to the world of Oakland Raider fans.
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May I ask the two people who voted for Jason Garrett to explain their choice? I can't for the life of me fathom why we'd want a guy who has SOOO much offensive talent in Dallas and can't even get his offense to function sometimes, let alone handle a defense too . . .
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Todd Bowles and Mayhew played on the same team in Washington. Thats the connection.

Bowles was the secondary coach of Cowboys. Parcells disciple I guess. Another position coach straight to head coach though so I don't like it.
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Todd Bowles and Mayhew played on the same team in Washington. Thats the connection.

Bowles was the secondary coach of Cowboys. Parcells disciple I guess. Another position coach straight to head coach though so I don't like it.
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You always say this, and I always reply the same:

There's only 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL. It's the highest level of football. The jobs, regardless of the franchise, are sought after. And while all 32 jobs are not created equal, they are still desirable. We might not attract everyone, but surely there are qualified people who want this job despite its pitfalls.
Well Oakland has a difficult time attracting my list even if they desire to be a HC. Why, because Al Davis is tough to work for and fires people who won't follow his orders without question. People simply don't want to work for him. He makes his HC's life miserable.
Mayhew is looked upon as a WCF crony who is way over his head as a GM. Not only do you have the thought of taking over a talentless team, you must depend on a talentless, unproven GM to provide you with players. If I'm a bright young mind with a real future in the game or even a recycled HC, I avoid Oakland and Detroit like the plague. They are career ending locations with no hope for success.
I was joking about Denny Green and Art Schell being offered the job but in reality, Mayhew isn't going to attract top guys either and who knows what we will have shoved down our throats as Mayhew begins to realize that few promising HC's want to come here. I think we are going to be stuck with a recycled HC whose career is stuck in the mud or a young guy without much experience at coaching in the NFL. Either way it doesn't look promising to me.
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true about oakland, but the lions players play hard for their coaches and that makes a world of a difference. i'd say a better coach would have made a huge difference for detroit. if we had a top coaching staff, then we could have won 6 games this year which is way different than 0-16.
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there is a huge difference between us and oakland. Oakland fires their coach after one year. No coach goes there because he know it will take them longer than a year to turn the team around but also knows that they will be fired in a year so it is an impossible situation for them. We keep our coaches for a long time everytime and always give them enough time to win
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