Jerry Angelo says QB is Top Off-Season Priority

[shane_man]

Because you need a QB who actually makes team respect the passing game... I don't mind Orton in Chicago when you guys are a power running team. I have an opinion of Orton where I see him as a guy who will try his absolute best not to lose a game. But I wouldn't trust him to win the game. That type of QB suits a power running team. But you guys were bottom third of the league in both offensive categories.

So unless this draft is going to be about rebuilding that power running attack(and after then Benson business, I'm not sure you guys are too interested in looking at RB in the first round anymore), you need a QB who can move the ball when the going get's tough.

So yeah. I don't want to see Orton go but when it comes to a matter of weighing up drafting and signing through FA a few pieces to a power running game or simply making ONE signing and replacing the QB. You can see which one I would go for.

Kurt Warner is almost definately retiring after this season(and if he can go again... I don't see why the Cards would let him walk).

Jeff Garcia has got to be 1,000,000 years old and again. I see him as just more of a mature version of Kyle Orton anyway. Maybe to back Orton up but then you still have to solve the issue of the running game.

Alex Smith is an interesting name. Do you guys really think he would be a worthwhile addition to a roster? I mean I see David Carr in a better light then I do Alex Smith. He would be no better then what you already have.

[bearfan]

I didnt read anything but the 1st paragraph, but I disagree with you. Orton may not have had the flash, but he put the team in for the win on numerous occasions, heck he was probably at his best with the game on the line. Take the ATL game, where he gets us up with seconds left on the clock. The bucs game after having a horrible 1st half, came out and put us up by 10.

Orton is not the problem, he needs to improve, but I think I can trust the guy with the game on the line.

[thebow305]

What would you guys say about someone like Leinart if he was to become available?

[Geo]

Unless the Bears sign Matt Cassel, I'm not sure there's an experienced player worth signing. I'd probably go for picking up Luke McCown out of Tampa on the cheap, instead, maybe.

The Bears taking Josh Freeman in the 1st is intriguing. Orton gives him a year to develop, unless Freeman really surprises and wins the competition earlier. Does Freeman have the arm to succeed in Chicago?

If fellow junior QB Tim Tebow is declaring, that would be interesting. I'd want to go for him, moreso in the 2nd if I could wait, as I am big on Tebow and am very willing to give him a chance at QB in the NFL. However, is Alex Smith really all that different? He would cost more dollars-wise, but comes with some NFL experience already and wouldn't cost a pick.

[bearsfan_51]

Originally Posted by shane_man

So unless this draft is going to be about rebuilding that power running attack(and after then Benson business, I'm not sure you guys are too interested in looking at RB in the first round anymore), you need a QB who can move the ball when the going get's tough.

Are you seriously implying that Forte is the problem? Have you ever watched a Bears game?

[bearsfan_51]

Freeman definately has the arm, easily the 2nd best in the draft assuming Stafford declares. It's his brain and heart that are questionable.

[bearfan]

Who is this Josh Freeman? I dont watch to much college football, so what are his pros and cons, and why would he be a good pick at 18?

And thebow, I would hope that we would jump all over Leinart if he is released. The competition would be good, I dont think he would win the starting, but to have another solid QB like Leinart would be good. With that said, Arizona would be the dummest franchise to let go their former top 10 QB without giving him at least one full season. Kinda similar to Rex Grossman, injuries have hindered, but he deserves a shot.

[shane_man]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Are you seriously implying that Forte is the problem? Have you ever watched a Bears game?

Hell to the NO. What makes you think I don't like Forte? There is more then one piece to a power running game. And with the way every team is moving to a system of split backs. You need to be looking at drafting a few different types of runners to compliment Forte's all-round awesomeness.

Not to mention maybe a few additions along the line.

[regoob2]

Originally Posted by bearfan

Who is this Josh Freeman? I dont watch to much college football, so what are his pros and cons, and why would he be a good pick at 18?

And thebow, I would hope that we would jump all over Leinart if he is released. The competition would be good, I dont think he would win the starting, but to have another solid QB like Leinart would be good. With that said, Arizona would be the dummest franchise to let go their former top 10 QB without giving him at least one full season. Kinda similar to Rex Grossman, injuries have hindered, but he deserves a shot.

I really like Josh Freeman. He has it all physically. If he's there in round 2 Id definetly look long and hard at him.

[bearfan]

Originally Posted by regoob2

I really like Josh Freeman. He has it all physically. If he's there in round 2 Id definetly look long and hard at him.

So he would be a 2nd rounder, not a 1st?

[bearsfan_51]

Freeman got an early 2nd round grade from the review committee, which means that he'll probably work his way into the 1st when he has an impressive pro day.

I personally would not take him in the 1st round, but someone likely will.

[regoob2]

I dont think we should take him in the first. Im surprised they rated him that high. There normally more conservative. Where did you hear he got that grade? Is there a site that says would players got?

[bearsfan_51]

Actually I heard it on here, but I'm sure they got it from someone else.

Freeman has a ton of pure physical ability, he just hasn't performed that well in college. In his defense though, Kansas State sucks.

[Monomach]

Originally Posted by bearfan

Who is this Josh Freeman? I dont watch to much college football, so what are his pros and cons, and why would he be a good pick at 18?

Start with JaMarcus Russell.
Take away a little bit of his arm strength. Not much; just a bit.
Take away some of his decision-making skills.
Take away anything resembling long-range accuracy.
Give him easier competition.
Make him play really bad every time he faces a good team.

Voila. You now have Josh Freeman, a project QB who in no way is deserving of a first round pick. He's behind Stafford, Sanchez, Bradford, and Davis for sure. He blows away jokes like Tebow, though. Personally, I'd feel that using a pick on him before the 3rd would be a huge waste. He's probably a long-term developmental guy.

Josh Freeman is all QB size and arm strength. There's nothing else there.

Watching him play, he gives me the Andre Woodson heebeejeebees. You know...The kind where you think "oh crap, I sure hope Jerry Angelo doesn't draft this bust, declare him the starter a la Rex Grossman, and waste 5 or 6 years on him."

[pellepelle_10]

I agree with many that say qb is not a worthy option with Lovie and Angelo's future contingent on this upcoming years performance. I don't think it's a bad idea but with all the indications Angelo has given and backed about veterans that have held their own I highly doubt another drafted qb will be the likely option.

I pray Kitna doesn't smell a Bear's jersey and the same goes to Kerry Collins and Matt Hasselheck.

I think bringing in a vet makes total sense but let it be someone who can stay healthy and someone whose capable of starting for the Detriot Lions for crying out loud. Collins got cut from the Raiders and the only reason he's survived Tennessee is because their rush attack has been among the best in the NFL. Same reason Tavarous Jackson can win games in Minny.

I think our concerns as far as draft picks are concerned can go many ways.

FS, OG, OT, DE, WR, SS can all be attained from this draft. Clouding it up with a QB will only stagnate our chances of having somewhat of a successful season next year.

[PACKmanN]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Actually I heard it on here, but I'm sure they got it from someone else.

Freeman has a ton of pure physical ability, he just hasn't performed that well in college. In his defense though, Kansas State sucks.

Jordy Nelson does not suck.

[awfullyquiet]

i think this is all ridiculous.

give orton an actual receiver, a real left tackle (check), and a year or two, i think we'll have a different perception of him. besides. JA is pretty weird with the information he gives and doesn't ever follow the information he gives. so. what he says before the draft is completely irrelevant and purposely misleading.

put the money in the defense.

[Gay Ork Wang]

agreed! I believe in Orton

[awfullyquiet]

Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang

agreed! I believe in Orton

and if not. forte will carry the offense like thomas jones did with grossman.

[Gay Ork Wang]

Orton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grossman

[regoob2]

Originally Posted by *** Ork Wang

agreed! I believe in Orton

When Orton played bad he still never played as bad as Grossman.

[Gay Ork Wang]

hell even when Orton didnt play he played better than Grossman

[Geo]

That's just ice cold.

Also, Grossman was absolutely better when he took over for a benched Orton in '05. And Rex was the reason they almost won in the playoffs over Carolina, if the defense didn't do such a poor job covering Steve Smith.

Rexy definitely needs a change of scenery though. And for crying out loud, get the center-quarterback snap exchange down pat.

[Gay Ork Wang]

Bears fans tend to exaggerate if we are referring to the Cumslinger

[regoob2]

[quote=Geo;1401015]
Also, Grossman was absolutely better when he took over for a benched Orton in '05. And Rex was the reason they almost won in the playoffs over Carolina[quote] That was a LONG time ago.