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Old 01-02-2009, 12:23 PM    (permalink
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take adrian peterson away and there's no way the vikes make the playoffs.
take michael turner away and matt ryan is a frightened puppy.
take peyton manning away there just as bad. sorry but the whole take a person away thing dont work when it comes to manning because he is that team. and for the record theres only one person i hate more in the nfl than peyton and thats LT because hes a crybaby so im not defending him on how much i like him im defending him on how much i think he deserves it.
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mo drew gets about 16 touches a game on offense (on a good day), and will run circles around ray rice. rice has no speed, 2nd burst or agility. he's a strong midget. How can anyone be excited about that.
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yea like he won them the game in Houston! or in Cleveland! or in Greenbay! or in Tennesee!
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the Dolphins started 1-5 and Pennington pulled them around to go 11-5 ! wooootttt
That's not true, because if it was, the Dolphins would have a longer winning streak than the Colts. Even if it were true, I doubt Pennington would have that stark of a contrast in performance over the bad stretch of games and the good stretch of games.

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take adrian peterson away and there's no way the vikes make the playoffs.
take michael turner away and matt ryan is a frightened puppy.
Take Peyton Manning away, and the Lions aren't winless and are probably picking 2nd in the draft.
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That's not true, because if it was, the Dolphins would have a longer winning streak than the Colts. Even if it were true, I doubt Pennington would have that stark of a contrast in performance over the bad stretch of games and the good stretch of games.



Take Peyton Manning away, and the Lions aren't winless and are probably picking 2nd in the draft.
yea i mixed it up cause im too dumb to read the schedule
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yea like he won them the game in Houston! or in Cleveland! or in Greenbay! or in Tennesee!
Damn those Colts ultrahomers in the media!
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They arent ultrahomers. But Peyton gets off with things others dont
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They arent ultrahomers. But Peyton gets off with things others dont
For example...?
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They arent ultrahomers. But Peyton gets off with things others dont
because he makes up for it like others dont. im sorry ill take 7 picks in 7 games and go 3-4 if it means my qb is going to win me 9 in a row to take me into the playoffs.
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mo drew gets about 16 touches a game on offense (on a good day), and will run circles around ray rice. rice has no speed, 2nd burst or agility. he's a strong midget. How can anyone be excited about that.
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For example the games he doesnt win. Seriously when he doesnt play good people are like: oh its his injury. When he plays good the following game: omgz he is teh god. next game he isnt as good: its the injury
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the Dolphins started 2-4 and Pennington pulled them around to go 11-5 ! wooootttt
Playing the average AFC East and having one of the easiest schedule. During there 6 first games (when they were 2-4), they played 3 playoffs teams. During the last 10 games (9-1), they played 0 playoffs teams.

Wow !
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peyton is never injured this is the first year hes been able to use that excuse and coming off surgery and having your o-line play horrible compared to what hes used to i think hes aloud to have a couple bad games.
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mo drew gets about 16 touches a game on offense (on a good day), and will run circles around ray rice. rice has no speed, 2nd burst or agility. he's a strong midget. How can anyone be excited about that.
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For example the games he doesnt win. Seriously when he doesnt play good people are like: oh its his injury. When he plays good the following game: omgz he is teh god. next game he isnt as good: its the injury
who says that? His injury was lingering all year, and you could tell by his footwork that the injury was still effecting him whether they won or not
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Playing the average AFC East and having one of the easiest schedule. During there 6 first games (when they were 2-4), they played 3 playoffs teams. During the last 10 games (9-1), they played 0 playoffs teams.

Wow !
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because he makes up for it like others dont. im sorry ill take 7 picks in 7 games and go 3-4 if it means my qb is going to win me 9 in a row to take me into the playoffs.
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For example the games he doesnt win. Seriously when he doesnt play good people are like: oh its his injury. When he plays good the following game: omgz he is teh god. next game he isnt as good: its the injury
Everyone has bad games, and people are naturally going to look for reasons as to why it happened. That's not much of an argument.
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i hope people realize im kidding

Yeah, I know. I just wanted to show people that this "turnaround" wasn't that great. ;)
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Yeah, I know. I just wanted to show people that this "turnaround" wasn't that great. ;)
what turnaround?? the dolphins
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It was 9, but you have a good point.



Everyone has bad games, and people are naturally going to look for reasons as to why it happened. That's not much of an argument.
what im saying is that Peyton Manning did obviously a great job. But he wasnt even the best QB in the AFC. Phillip Rivers had way less to work with than Manning. I mean sure, the Chargers average about 20 yards more a game rushing. But the Colts defense is ranked 11th in the league. Why does everyone make them out to be like the worst defense ever? The Chargers ranked 25th respectively. I mean i dont see how Rivers didnt deserve MVP over Manning
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what im saying is that Peyton Manning did obviously a great job. But he wasnt even the best QB in the AFC. Phillip Rivers had way less to work with than Manning. I mean sure, the Chargers average about 20 yards more a game rushing. But the Colts defense is ranked 11th in the league. Why does everyone make them out to be like the worst defense ever? The Chargers ranked 25th respectively. I mean i dont see how Rivers didnt deserve MVP over Manning
MVPs always come from elite teams. San Diego barely scraped into the playoffs where as the Colts are a Super Bowl contending team.
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what im saying is that Peyton Manning did obviously a great job. But he wasnt even the best QB in the AFC. Phillip Rivers had way less to work with than Manning. I mean sure, the Chargers average about 20 yards more a game rushing. But the Colts defense is ranked 11th in the league. Why does everyone make them out to be like the worst defense ever? The Chargers ranked 25th respectively. I mean i dont see how Rivers didnt deserve MVP over Manning
the difference is that defenses have to respect the chargers running game and the when it comes to the colts safeties get to stay in coverage and not worry about it.
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mo drew gets about 16 touches a game on offense (on a good day), and will run circles around ray rice. rice has no speed, 2nd burst or agility. he's a strong midget. How can anyone be excited about that.
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MVPs always come from elite teams. San Diego barely scraped into the playoffs where as the Colts are a Super Bowl contending team.
so why do the MVPs always come from elite teams?
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the difference is that defenses have to respect the chargers running game and the when it comes to the colts safeties get to stay in coverage and not worry about it.
have u seen the chargers play? I wouldnt respect that running game. The Chargers releasing Lorenzo Neal was the biggest mistake in their offseason
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have u seen the chargers play? I wouldnt respect that running game. The Chargers releasing Lorenzo Neal was the biggest mistake in their offseason
im not saying the chargers have a great running game im saying no matter what when you have LT in the game you have to respect that because he can break lose at anytime well at least thats what we like to think lol but when rhodes is out there or addia (injured i think) the safeties can depend on there other guys to take care of that
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mo drew gets about 16 touches a game on offense (on a good day), and will run circles around ray rice. rice has no speed, 2nd burst or agility. he's a strong midget. How can anyone be excited about that.
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so why do the MVPs always come from elite teams?
What? I just said Rivers has no chance at the MVP over Manning because the Chargers are not an elite team.
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