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View Poll Results: Who was the best coach of the Matt Millen era?
Marty Mornhinweg 3 10.34%
Steve Mariucci 19 65.52%
Rod Marinelli 7 24.14%
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:28 PM    (permalink
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Who was the best coach of the Matt Millen era?

And if you had to choose, which one would you choose to return as Head Coach?
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I'd take Mooch back. He never seemed to make any really dumb decisions.. not that I remember anyways. Nothing comparable to taking the wind in OT.. and he doesn't believe in the invisible.
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Rod couldn't handle the most basic in-game management duties of a HC.

Marty took the wind in an OT game.

I think it's Mooch by default.

I do think Mornhinweg is the only guy who will get another NFL Head Coaching job though. He's working his was back after his disaterous Detroit campaign 6 years ago.
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I went with Mooch too. He wins [loses?] by default.
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Mariucci was actually... normal. The others seemed to be a few prawns short of a galaxy.
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This is a prawn...... so uhhhhhh.
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Even though Morningweg made the stupidest decision in coaching history, I think he was the best overall.
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Mooch was the first to realize Harrington wasn't the answer and he brought in Garcia to replace him. Who knows what happens if Garcia wasn't injured all season. Mooch had a winning record at San Fran and I think he is a very decent HC, but he simply couldn't keep it going with the players Millen was providing him with.
Mooch was the only HC who we had who actually fought with Millen over players and that is why Millen hired Marinelli, the good soldier to replace him. Millen realized Marinelli wouldn't question his moves and would accept whatever Millen threw his way.
There is no doubt in my mind that Mooch would have kept Detroit as at least a decent franchise but there was still no way he could have produced a winner with Millen as his GM. Nobody was going to be successful under an incompetent GM like Millen no matter how good a HC he was.
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Mooch was the first to realize Harrington wasn't the answer and he brought in Garcia to replace him. Who knows what happens if Garcia wasn't injured all season. Mooch had a winning record at San Fran and I think he is a very decent HC, but he simply couldn't keep it going with the players Millen was providing him with.
Mooch was the only HC who we had who actually fought with Millen over players and that is why Millen hired Marinelli, the good soldier to replace him. Millen realized Marinelli wouldn't question his moves and would accept whatever Millen threw his way.
There is no doubt in my mind that Mooch would have kept Detroit as at least a decent franchise but there was still no way he could have produced a winner with Millen as his GM. Nobody was going to be successful under an incompetent GM like Millen no matter how good a HC he was.
my question is why hasn't Mooch been picked up even as a Co for any other squad? I mean Rod is even being looked at as a DC or DL coach.
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at least Mooch seemed to have kept his sanity throughout.
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I don't think Mooch has gotten another job yet because the Wet Toast Offense is dying off.
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He might make more money doing TV than he would as a Coordinator.
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I'd take Mooch back. He never seemed to make any really dumb decisions.. not that I remember anyways. Nothing comparable to taking the wind in OT.. and he doesn't believe in the invisible.
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Marinelli is supposed to be an exceptional D-Line coach, and spent most of his time at Lions practice with the D-Line, and yet our D-Line was horrible and no one stood out in any way.

I know he's had success in Tampa, but he didn't excel at anything in Detroit. Even his supposed specialty.
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He'll also be trying to get Chicago to trade for all the ex-Bucs turned Lions.
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He might make more money doing TV than he would as a Coordinator.
I figure that is the answer. who knows how many job offers he's turned down. I think he would likle to be a HC again but when you get associated with Detroit, it can be career ending as far as HCing is concerned although I think he will get another shot if he wants it.
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If I had to bring one back itd be Rod as our DLine coach.

Where he belongs, and he could for the most part stay out of the public eye.

Mooch's system was not a fit, and Mornhenweig would probably try t play the wind in the dome.
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If I had to bring one back itd be Rod as our DLine coach.

Where he belongs, and he could for the most part stay out of the public eye.

Mooch's system was not a fit, and Mornhenweig would probably try t play the wind in the dome.
What player really shined on the D-Line with Marinelli here? I don't see any player who is significantly better now than when Rod got here.
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The answer has to be Mariucci...he's the only one to coach a winning team before

I think Marinelli got a little cocky and drafted undersized d lineman and thought he develop them into great players..obviously unsuccessful

As for Morninwheg, he had the worst record of the 3 so how could he be the best.
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Originally Posted by Xiomera View Post
What player really shined on the D-Line with Marinelli here? I don't see any player who is significantly better now than when Rod got here.
Highlights/lowlights:

Sacks/pressure was up in 2007.

Shaun Rogers had his best year statistically as a Lion in 2007.

Redding had an 8 sack year in 06 and decent in 07 in run D. Bad/injury plagued 08.

White is good in first half of seasons then terrible in second halfs in 2 seasons.

Kalimba can't be fixed

IAF is a bust.

Avril showed some promise.

DeVries had a decent season in 07 but terrilbe 06 and terrible/injury 08.

Fluellen/Cohen are too young.

Cody is a bust although he was ok at times this year but not enough to keep him.

Darby is terrible.

Marinelli made the most out of the little talent he had on the Dline. But was the reason we brought in inconsistent White, let Rogers go for Darby, resigned Kalimba(he though he could coach him) and gave Redding all that money.

If we had a good Dline with a couple 1st rounders in place I would want Marinelli to coach them for motivation and he is a good coach. An inexperienced Dline/crappy Dline, I don't know who I would want. I don't think there is anybody?
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