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03-04-2007, 12:33 PM
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Over Paying Free Agency horrible this year
Nate Clement, Wes Welker, Dwayne White, Leonard Davis, Dennis Northcutt, Michael Lewis, all getting over paid. I mean Nate Clement is a very good CB. But the highest paid player in the NFL? I mean he's no Champ Bailey! Wes Welker getting 39 million! Why didn't they just re-sign Deion Branch? Dwayne White getting 6 Million a season. Over a million dollars a sack! Leonard Davis getting 7 Mill a season. Dennis Northcutt getting paid like a starter?
I for one am glad the Steelers aren't mixing it up in free agency yet.
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03-04-2007, 12:34 PM
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Many will say it's because the salary cap has increased, I for one say it doesn't matter, everyone is still getting overpaid! Just like in baseball.
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03-04-2007, 12:41 PM
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How insightful. Absolutely nobody else has brought this issue up on the message board yet.
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03-04-2007, 12:51 PM
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Get used to it. This isn't your father's NFL. With 65% of NFL income being used on players (I.E., the Salary Cap), it'll only get worse. This is the market now. Considering how much Drew Bennett got and Kevin Curtis and Donte' Stallworth will get, Dennis Northcutt with eventually be considered something of a bargain.
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03-04-2007, 12:58 PM
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Northcutt is making around the same that he was making in Cleveland, by the way. Like almost all of the free agent contracts signed this offseason, the deal is backloaded, so the team can cut him with few losses after a few years.
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03-04-2007, 01:00 PM
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It's reminding me alot of baseball where teams feel that they need to overpay right away to get the guys they want instead of taking their time and making reasonable deals.
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03-04-2007, 01:21 PM
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Take a look at the Vishanthe Shiancoe thread.
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03-04-2007, 01:23 PM
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how did michael lewis get overpaid?
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03-04-2007, 01:26 PM
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Lewis = 10 million gaurantted on a 6 year deal, when he wasnt even a starter.
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03-04-2007, 01:31 PM
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People need to realize how much the contracts actually are. The players won't see most of that money. Just like when all the rookies got HUGE contracts last year they weren't really that big because that is the most money they can see, but they won't get see most of it. The deals are pretty crazy because of the signing bonuses but they aren't anywhere near as bad as people are making it seem.
From the last one of these.
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03-04-2007, 01:42 PM
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well champ still makes the most a year...he avrages 9 mill a year
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03-04-2007, 01:43 PM
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It doesnt matter if they wont see all the money, the fact is they very well COULD see all the money, and the contract alone is alot.
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03-04-2007, 01:44 PM
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The answer is building through the draft, & avoiding FA unless someone special is out there & is worth overpaying. I'm glad the Colts usually stay out of FA (damn you Corey Simon).
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03-04-2007, 01:44 PM
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Consider this.
Look at the 12 teams that have signed FAs. Then go check the teams who have not been paying for FAs.
Tell me if you can find the trend.
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03-04-2007, 01:49 PM
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I've come to the conclusion that the majority of people on this site just don't understand the salary cap.
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03-04-2007, 01:50 PM
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I've come to the conclusion that the majority of people on this site just don't understand the salary cap.
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I think you could replace salary cap with most football terminology.
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03-04-2007, 01:51 PM
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Madden 08 is gonna suck big time if I have to pay this much for mediocre offensive linemen and backup TEs/Safeties. Especially because Madden is not like the NFL, and the contracts you give players are what they seem. There's no incentives or bonuses. Ugh!
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03-04-2007, 01:52 PM
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I think you could replace salary cap with most football terminology.
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03-04-2007, 01:52 PM
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Just turn the salary cap off and have a hay day.
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03-04-2007, 01:55 PM
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Madden 08 is gonna suck big time if I have to pay this much for mediocre offensive linemen and backup TEs/Safeties. Especially because Madden is not like the NFL, and the contracts you give players are what they seem. There's no incentives or bonuses. Ugh!
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The salary cap isn't hard on Madden at all, because it escalates much more quickly than it does in real life. In reality, the salary cap increases about 6% every year. In Madden, it's something like 10%. Plus, there's the fact that in Madden, players ask for ridiculously small signing bonuses.
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03-04-2007, 01:55 PM
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thats free agency. teams spending waaayyyy too much money cause they think they need the top guy right now. ridiculous.
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03-04-2007, 01:57 PM
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IMO what do you want a bad team that has huge holes to fill do? You cant just not participate in FA because they demand money. And you cant address everything in the draft, theres not enough high round picks for quality players.
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03-04-2007, 01:59 PM
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The salary cap isn't hard on Madden at all, because it escalates much more quickly than it does in real life. In reality, the salary cap increases about 6% every year. In Madden, it's something like 10%. Plus, there's the fact that in Madden, players ask for ridiculously small signing bonuses.
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In Madden I just turn off injuries and sign the cheapest backups while all my starters are at least 96, so it's not really my problem, but it could be annoying.
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03-04-2007, 01:59 PM
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IMO what do you want a bad team that has huge holes to fill do? You cant just not participate in FA because they demand money. And you cant address everything in the draft, theres not enough high round picks for quality players.
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03-04-2007, 02:02 PM
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Lewis = 10 million gaurantted on a 6 year deal, when he wasnt even a starter.
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The Eagles benched him to lower his value, oldest trick in the book.
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