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Old 01-09-2009, 12:08 PM    (permalink
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No real surprises except maybe Welker on 2nd team and I personally would switch Deangelo williams with Turner. Quinten Mikell deserved his place there as well imo.
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im happy with that my team got some spots on the first team Ray Lewis,Ed Reed,Leron McClain
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im happy with that my team got some spots on the first team Ray Lewis,Ed Reed,Leron McClain
Only a matter of time before Haloti Ngata joins them in future
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just wow for only picking 3-4 OLB. that is horrible...

Didnt Walter Jones have a down year?
Jason Peters, what a ******* joke
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I'm ecstatic for the Titans players, especially OT's Michael Roos and David Stewart. Roos gets a lot of love, especially from posters on here, but I was afraid he'd get passed over for someone like Jason Peters or Joe Thomas for 1st Team. David Stewart is the next Runyan, and I'm glad he got recognition by being voted to 2nd Team All-Pro.

Kinda disappointed Ahmard Hall didn't get 2nd Team All-Pro. Figured he had no chance at 1st Team due to McClain getting so many carries, but Hall is as instrumental to CJ and LenDale's success as the OL is. Watch CJ highlights, and see the blocks #45 lays on some guys. Michael Griffin/Chris Hope may have been snubbed for 2nd Team, but Nick Collins and Adrian Wilson are good safeties.
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Only the 3-4 OLB getting selected is pretty ridiculous. Ware and Harrison deserve it, but there are so many 4-3 OLBs that get overlooked. Probably one of the most overlooked positions in the NFL.

Jason Peters was the only pick that really stuck out as an undeserving pick. Otherwise, it is pretty good all around.

And its really hard for road grading blocking FBs to get recognized. Ovie Mughelli did a great job this year, leading the #2 rushing attack. McClain had a great year blocking and running though.
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Good to see James Farrior getting his due...albiet second team.

And as far as only 3-4 OLB's being picked, you could say the same for 4-3 end, players like Aaron Smith and Ty Warren never get there due respect.
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Only the 3-4 OLB getting selected is pretty ridiculous. Ware and Harrison deserve it, but there are so many 4-3 OLBs that get overlooked. Probably one of the most overlooked positions in the NFL.

Jason Peters was the only pick that really stuck out as an undeserving pick. Otherwise, it is pretty good all around.

And its really hard for road grading blocking FBs to get recognized. Ovie Mughelli did a great job this year, leading the #2 rushing attack. McClain had a great year blocking and running though.

The fullback that led the #1 rushing attack did get recognized.
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Dwight Freeney not making either team is rather disappointing. Personally I'd take him over all four of those guys, but the votes are what they are.
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cause ur a Colts fan
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Seeing every snap he plays and the constant pressure he delivers does give me a perspective that others are bereft of, yes.

But I don't expect many to agree with me. That's fine.
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Seeing every snap he plays and the constant pressure he delivers does give me a perspective that others are bereft of, yes.

But I don't expect many to agree with me. That's fine.
and obviously u not seeing every snap of the other 4 guys. wouldnt that make it a biased opinion?
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Probably so. Although do the voters see every snap each player plays?
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i doubt it. ur point?
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His point is bias goes both ways. But, while Freeney had a great season, Tuck, Allen, Peppers, and Abraham were 1-4 in sacks by DE's this season. Mario Williams, Rob Mathis, and Freeney were 5-7, so I don't think Freeney got robbed.
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yes, but him being biased doesnt change.
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What is with all the ties for Tackles on the 2nd team? 5 or 6 of them, haha.

I'm dissappointed Revis didn't make it, i thought he would get 2nd team, but i can't make a hard arguement against the 2 guys selected instead i guess.

I'm glad Beason made it. I expect the Willis vs Beason battle to make these teams to continue into the coming seasons.
Impressed by Ray Lewis making it after all these years.....
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Wes Welker over Boldin, Calvin Johnson, and Roddy White? I don't like that one at all.


I also think Deangelo deserved 1st team.
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That he did. That was more of a statement to Arhmad (sp?) Hall and Ovie Mughelli.
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Dwight Freeney not making either team is rather disappointing. Personally I'd take him over all four of those guys, but the votes are what they are.
I'm not saying I have seen all of Freeney's snaps (though surprisingly I did see a ton of Colts games this year) but I don't honestly see him being a better defensive end than all of those guys. He's probably the best pass rusher in the NFL (when healthy) but not the best overall defensive end.

Allen is a stud at stopping the run and Tuck is pretty good at it too. Honestly didn't see Peppers enough to say whether or not he was good at stopping the run.

On a side note, Madison Hedgecock making the second All-Pro team is absolutely hilarious. Not saying he doesn't deserve it but for some reason fullbacks for the Giants are always great blockers but also tend to offer some comical relief when it comes to catching passes. Finn was that way and Hedgecock is like a clone of him in that sense.
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Usually the all-pro voting is very good, and I can say from experience working for the historical wing of the HOF, it's something that voters take seriously into account (much more so than pro bowls)

That said, this is not one of their best efforts.
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Glad Quintin Mikell made it. Not bad for a undrafted free agent out of Boise St. who spent the majority of his career as a special teams ace.
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Jason Peters was probably the second worst starting LT in the league this season, behind Kwame Harris.

Anyway, I'm glad Leon Washington made it
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Beason should be on the 2nd team with Willis on the 1st team.
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