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Old 01-11-2009, 05:27 AM    (permalink
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Now that the Cardinals have conclusively showed they can win without Boldin, can we expect Boldin to play somewhere else next year?
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did his 2 catches for 72 yards and a TD just go right by you before you made this thread?
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:00 AM    (permalink
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Receiving REC YDS TD LG
L. Fitzgerald 8 166 1 41
S. Breaston 4 28 0 12
J. Arrington 3 10 0 9
E. James 1 9 0 9
J. Urban 2 5 0 8
T. Castille 1 3 0 3
T. Hightower 1 3 1 3
E. Doucet 1 -4 0 -4

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Why would they let him go? But if they are dumb enough, I will cut myself until the Ravens pick him up. IDC if we can't re-sign Terrell Suggs, Boldin is a beast.
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:44 AM    (permalink
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It would be stupid for them to let him go. Teams have trouble with them because they can't double both Fitz and Boldin.

Besides, it might be Leinart throwing to these guys next year. He'll need all the help he can get.
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Depends what they use the money they are saving on Boldin, for.

If say they say goodbye to Boldin and Suggs hits the market. I would expect them to make a hard run at him.

The win against Carolina was a big one for them in gaining confidence but it had a hell of a lot to do with Delhomme blowing nuts rather then ridiculously superior play. Losing Boldin would mean a more rounded offensive gameplan(you know... Like using Edge and Arrington more).

Anyway. I could see based on the success of Breaston this season the argument for allowing Boldin to leave. I wouldn't advise it unless you were going to make a committed run at a game changer on D.
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Thing is though, who are you going to get back that is as good as Boldin? He and Fitz are the Top 2 WRs in the league, I've been saying it all season and still think it. If it's veteran Kurt Warner or a young QB under center, either would benefit greatly from having both receivers to help make their job a lot easier.

Even if Terrell Suggs hits the market, he's not close to as good as Boldin is at their respective positions. The only possible candidate is Nnamdi Asomugha. And either of those guys is going to take up as much cap space as a Boldin extension would, if not maybe even more, which is back to the same problem. Otherwise they wouldn't be trading Boldin.

If they're set on moving him because of the issues with cap space, more likely it's going to take a heck of a lot of draft picks to get Boldin.
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As long as Boldin is under contract and willing to play, I'd keep him around. The passing game is teh strength of your team and you have an incredible WR corps in Fitz-Boldin-Breaston-Doucet.

Your run game has struggled all season and though its been better in the playoffs, its still far from great.

If Warner stays (or even if its Leinart) I'd keep those receivers together and use the offseason to get help for the run game. Get a complete offense and in that weak division, you could make another run next year with ease.
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As long as Boldin is under contract and willing to play, I'd keep him around. The passing game is teh strength of your team and you have an incredible WR corps in Fitz-Boldin-Breaston-Doucet.

Your run game has struggled all season and though its been better in the playoffs, its still far from great.

If Warner stays (or even if its Leinart) I'd keep those receivers together and use the offseason to get help for the run game. Get a complete offense and in that weak division, you could make another run next year with ease.
Sorry, dude. But it cracks me up when people talk about the Cards' WR corps and mention Doucet (90 yds, 0 TD) but don't mention Jerheme Urban (448 yds, 4 TD).

I'm hoping Boldin can stay, he makes all the receivers around him better (e.g. inspiring Fitz to do more after the catch this year). I imagine the Cards will free up a lot of $ by releasing Edge.
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As BeerBaron said, as long as he's under contract and willing to play, he ain't going nowhere. Now, if he starts to be a ***** like Chad Johnson (which I doubt), then maybe they'd trade him if they really don't have the cap.
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Sorry, dude. But it cracks me up when people talk about the Cards' WR corps and mention Doucet (90 yds, 0 TD) but don't mention Jerheme Urban (448 yds, 4 TD).

I'm hoping Boldin can stay, he makes all the receivers around him better (e.g. inspiring Fitz to do more after the catch this year). I imagine the Cards will free up a lot of $ by releasing Edge.
Well add in whoever you want....I just knew Doucet was a 3rd rounder and I expect him to see more time headed forward. Your just adding to my argument anyway. :)
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He'll stay. I'm sure they will hear offers, but keeping Boldin is huge for them.
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Even though I always say a guy has only himself to blame for the contract he signs, and that he's stuck with it afterwards, Boldin deserves more money. He needs a new deal, or some new money on his existing deal.
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Even though I always say a guy has only himself to blame for the contract he signs, and that he's stuck with it afterwards, Boldin deserves more money. He needs a new deal, or some new money on his existing deal.
He does deserve more money but you could probably say that about just about anyone who still plays at a high level a year or two after signing the new deal. More and more money is thrown around each year that its ridiculous. Most contracts become outdated very quickly.
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If hes still under contract and wants to play why not?
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If i'm Boldin, i'm pushing as hard as i can for a new deal, or a trade so i can get a new deal. He just tweaked a hammy (huge for a WR), he got his snot destroyed earlier in the year, and he's a guy whose success thrives on his physicality and toughness. He's nearing that big age milestone pretty soon as well, so i'm not sure he's gonna get as big of money he can get right now, two years from now.

There will be plenty of teams interested in his services, and i'm sure more than one would be willing to throw in a first rounder with a third and another decent player. Steve Breaston has shown he can be a #2, and a very good one at that, so i don't think the production will drop too much.
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Boldin's style makes him injury prone. That is what keeps him from being a truly great WR. He rarely, if ever, plays a full season.
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The Jets should try and get him... We need a real play maker at WR
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Boldin's style makes him injury prone. That is what keeps him from being a truly great WR. He rarely, if ever, plays a full season.
Which is why he needs to get paid ASAP. He knows that and Rosenhaus knows that. The Cardinals won't budge because they know that as well. If they're gonna try and shaft him like that, at least do him a favor in getting him to a team where he'll get paid, and you still get value similar to what he can offer your team.
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As long as the Cards keep Kurt Warner, theyre not going to miss Boldin too much. According to Football Outsiders, Fitz had the 3rd best season for a WR this year, Boldin the 8th and Steve Breaston the 12th

Obviously this is a cherry picked measure and isn't completely representative of what Boldin brings to a team, but the point is that they have a pretty damn good guy to fill in (and with Fitz they don't have to worry about keeping a playmaker). Whether the reason for that be the system, Warner or Breaston himself doesnt matter

BTW, Jerheme Urban sucks. I have never seen a receiver cause more interceptions than him. He constantly has balls bounce off his body, pads, helmet, hands, etc and into the other teams hands.
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It was one game I would not cut/trade him dude is a beast.
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Boldin will be in a Giant uniform next season unless the Giants feel they can get a good WR in the first round of the draft.
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His contract is reason to stay, he has no choice but to return, Arizona isn't stupid and they won't trade him just for the hell of it...I honestly think they would rather pay for two highly paid WR's then give up a WR for scraps, especially someone with the capability of Boldin, makes no sense.


Unless a blockbuster presents itself, where maybe they can get an elite defensive player and swap, or they get two 1st, I highly doubt he goes anywhere...Yes they can win without him, but he's too good to just hand to another team.
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Boldin has 2 years left and they'd tag him for atlest 1 year. The Cardinals have plenty of time to work out a long-term deal. Contrary to what he says, if he is offered a big contract he will take it, whether it is this off-season or 2 off-season from now.

By waiting not only might they save money, if Breston turns out to be really good they could consider trading Boldin at that point. Or trade Breston I geuss. No need to rush.
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