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Old 01-12-2009, 07:49 PM    (permalink
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He's "slowed down" and will never be what he was right... sounds like what everyone was saying about Randy Moss.

When he's back at the beginning of the season at full speed, everyone will be in shock as if he made some miraculous comeback, when he wasn't "losing a step" but just injured all along.
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He's "slowed down" and will never be what he was right... sounds like what everyone was saying about Randy Moss.

When he's back at the beginning of the season at full speed, everyone will be in shock as if he made some miraculous comeback, when he wasn't "losing a step" but just injured all along.
Randy Moss was at still at an age where WRs are still very productive, LT is at the age of step decline. Moss wasn't producing because he was lazy, not because of injuries or loss of ability. Its not known if his struggles was caused by injuries and a decline or just injuries.

LT hasn't had injury problems throughout his career until the last 2 seasons, I don't think its just a coincidence. When RBs hit their decline they often get injured alot. He'll very likely continue to get injuried or be banged up.
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He's not gonna go anywhere, but you can bet your bottom dollar that they're going to draft a running back in rounds 2-4 to pair up with him. Sproles will be allowed to leave in free agency, as Michael Turner did. The Chargers won't want to pay him what some other team will pay him as they already have a lot of money tied up in LT. A cheap, rookie running mate to do the dirty work is just what the doctor ordered to maximize the touches LT gets.
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Randy Moss was at still at an age where WRs are still very productive, LT is at the age of step decline. Moss wasn't producing because he was lazy, not because of injuries or loss of ability. Its not known if his struggles was caused by injuries and a decline or just injuries.

LT hasn't had injury problems throughout his career until the last 2 seasons, I don't think its just a coincidence. When RBs hit their decline they often get injured alot. He'll very likely continue to get injuried or be banged up.
Someone else here who has some ballz and ability to look forward and not just backwards, which is so easy. Everyone can look backwards.

A great GM once said it's better to get rid of a guy one year too soon instead of one year too late.

And nobody is saying RELEASE LT.
Cash him in. I still believe they could get a #1 pick for him, #2 for sure, which would be a new fresh starting RB who's hungry to earn his big contract.

Lt was worthless to the Chargers success this year and last year in the playoffs. This is Philip Rivers team now. Had he had Michael Turner this year instead of Tomlinson, this team would have been much better off. And going forward.......

Tomlinson to Cincinnati for their #2 and #5 picks.
Carson Palmer comes back and has a (old) franchise RB to rely on (he thinks).
The Chargers could use that pick on Shonn Greene or LeSean McCoy and never look back. And it will save the Chargers a ton of $ and allow them to keep the VALUBLE Sproles. That guy was HUGE this year, no pun intended.

Don't be scared people, things change.

Montana, Rice, Emmitt, Favre.... those guys were even better and bigger stars than LT and the got to, and WON at least 1 Super Bowl. They all finished up on other teams. Don't think it can't happen again.
Wait, what about Michael Jordan (Wizards) and Wayne Gretzky (Blues? Rangers?)........ but it can't happen to LT huh? Wrong.
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Someone else here who has some ballz and ability to look forward and not just backwards, which is so easy. Everyone can look backwards.

A great GM once said it's better to get rid of a guy one year too soon instead of one year too late.

And nobody is saying RELEASE LT.
Cash him in. I still believe they could get a #1 pick for him, #2 for sure, which would be a new fresh starting RB who's hungry to earn his big contract.

Lt was worthless to the Chargers success this year and last year in the playoffs. This is Philip Rivers team now. Had he had Michael Turner this year instead of Tomlinson, this team would have been much better off. And going forward.......

Tomlinson to Cincinnati for their #2 and #5 picks.
Carson Palmer comes back and has a (old) franchise RB to rely on (he thinks).
The Chargers could use that pick on Shonn Greene or LeSean McCoy and never look back. And it will save the Chargers a ton of $ and allow them to keep the VALUBLE Sproles. That guy was HUGE this year, no pun intended.

Don't be scared people, things change.
Well, if they're gonna change things, why not really change them? Quentin Jammer isn't getting any younger. Trade him too. And Jamal Williams, already on the wrong side of 30. Lets just dump all of the quality veterans on the team for early to mid round picks and hope something comes of them. They certainly always work out.

Thats great for a win somewhere along the line team. But the Chargers are a playoff team now and want to win now. Their window is beginning to close, but its not there yet.
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Someone else here who has some ballz and ability to look forward and not just backwards, which is so easy. Everyone can look backwards.

A great GM once said it's better to get rid of a guy one year too soon instead of one year too late.

And nobody is saying RELEASE LT.
Cash him in. I still believe they could get a #1 pick for him, #2 for sure, which would be a new fresh starting RB who's hungry to earn his big contract.

Lt was worthless to the Chargers success this year and last year in the playoffs. This is Philip Rivers team now. Had he had Michael Turner this year instead of Tomlinson, this team would have been much better off. And going forward.......

Tomlinson to Cincinnati for their #2 and #5 picks.
Carson Palmer comes back and has a (old) franchise RB to rely on (he thinks).
The Chargers could use that pick on Shonn Greene or LeSean McCoy and never look back. And it will save the Chargers a ton of $ and allow them to keep the VALUBLE Sproles. That guy was HUGE this year, no pun intended.

Don't be scared people, things change.

Montana, Rice, Emmitt, Favre.... those guys were even better and bigger stars than LT and the got to, and WON at least 1 Super Bowl. They all finished up on other teams. Don't think it can't happen again.
Wait, what about Michael Jordan (Wizards) and Wayne Gretzky (Blues? Rangers?)........ but it can't happen to LT huh? Wrong.
i wasn't even going to respond to whatever crap you just posted, untill I saw the bottom. So FOOTVALL players Montana, Rice, Emmit and Favre produced late in their careers.

you then say a BASKETBALL and HOCKEY player each struggled at the downside of their careers. I will alert Shaq and Brendan Shannahan of your point...
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Someone else here who has some ballz and ability to look forward and not just backwards, which is so easy. Everyone can look backwards.

A great GM once said it's better to get rid of a guy one year too soon instead of one year too late.

And nobody is saying RELEASE LT.
Cash him in. I still believe they could get a #1 pick for him, #2 for sure, which would be a new fresh starting RB who's hungry to earn his big contract.

Lt was worthless to the Chargers success this year and last year in the playoffs. This is Philip Rivers team now. Had he had Michael Turner this year instead of Tomlinson, this team would have been much better off. And going forward.......

Tomlinson to Cincinnati for their #2 and #5 picks.
Carson Palmer comes back and has a (old) franchise RB to rely on (he thinks).
The Chargers could use that pick on Shonn Greene or LeSean McCoy and never look back. And it will save the Chargers a ton of $ and allow them to keep the VALUBLE Sproles. That guy was HUGE this year, no pun intended.

Don't be scared people, things change.

Montana, Rice, Emmitt, Favre.... those guys were even better and bigger stars than LT and the got to, and WON at least 1 Super Bowl. They all finished up on other teams. Don't think it can't happen again.
Wait, what about Michael Jordan (Wizards) and Wayne Gretzky (Blues? Rangers?)........ but it can't happen to LT huh? Wrong.
haha you do realize that Jordan retired, became part owner of the Wizards and President of BBall Operations, and then decided to make a comeback. He wasn't traded/released by the Bulls, he decided to quit professional basketball. Can you understand the difference?

Man, you are really hitting some home runs in this thread. It's a shame I can only give out so much neg rep.
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Someone else here who has some ballz and ability to look forward and not just backwards, which is so easy. Everyone can look backwards.

A great GM once said it's better to get rid of a guy one year too soon instead of one year too late.

And nobody is saying RELEASE LT.
Cash him in. I still believe they could get a #1 pick for him, #2 for sure, which would be a new fresh starting RB who's hungry to earn his big contract.

Lt was worthless to the Chargers success this year and last year in the playoffs. This is Philip Rivers team now. Had he had Michael Turner this year instead of Tomlinson, this team would have been much better off. And going forward.......

Tomlinson to Cincinnati for their #2 and #5 picks.
Carson Palmer comes back and has a (old) franchise RB to rely on (he thinks).
The Chargers could use that pick on Shonn Greene or LeSean McCoy and never look back. And it will save the Chargers a ton of $ and allow them to keep the VALUBLE Sproles. That guy was HUGE this year, no pun intended.

Don't be scared people, things change.

Montana, Rice, Emmitt, Favre.... those guys were even better and bigger stars than LT and the got to, and WON at least 1 Super Bowl. They all finished up on other teams. Don't think it can't happen again.
Wait, what about Michael Jordan (Wizards) and Wayne Gretzky (Blues? Rangers?)........ but it can't happen to LT huh? Wrong.
I didn't think you could make a worse post than u did earlier...but WOW. You realize that Jordan retired and become Prez of operations I believe for the wizards? Some position where he was controlling the team, then made a comeback. The Bulls did not trade him, I can't believe you thought that was true.
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Someone else here who has some ballz and ability to look forward and not just backwards, which is so easy. Everyone can look backwards.

A great GM once said it's better to get rid of a guy one year too soon instead of one year too late.

And nobody is saying RELEASE LT.
Cash him in. I still believe they could get a #1 pick for him, #2 for sure, which would be a new fresh starting RB who's hungry to earn his big contract.

Lt was worthless to the Chargers success this year and last year in the playoffs. This is Philip Rivers team now. Had he had Michael Turner this year instead of Tomlinson, this team would have been much better off. And going forward.......

Tomlinson to Cincinnati for their #2 and #5 picks.
Carson Palmer comes back and has a (old) franchise RB to rely on (he thinks).
The Chargers could use that pick on Shonn Greene or LeSean McCoy and never look back. And it will save the Chargers a ton of $ and allow them to keep the VALUBLE Sproles. That guy was HUGE this year, no pun intended.

Don't be scared people, things change.

Montana, Rice, Emmitt, Favre.... those guys were even better and bigger stars than LT and the got to, and WON at least 1 Super Bowl. They all finished up on other teams. Don't think it can't happen again.
Wait, what about Michael Jordan (Wizards) and Wayne Gretzky (Blues? Rangers?)........ but it can't happen to LT huh? Wrong.
Farve really? Arent you a Packers fan? How dumb or clueless are you? You do know that Farve retired and then came back. They traded him away because they moved on with Rogers, not cause he was on the decline....and he wasnt.
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I was just coming on here to ask why this thread has gotten to four pages. I now understand.......... Continue.
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It's basically a parody at this point. Although his rep's nosedive is pretty funny.
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It's basically a parody at this point. Although his rep's nosedive is pretty funny.
Well when i first saw this yesterday I just thought there was gonna be a list of posts that just said no, and then locked. Interesting stuff here tho hahahaha
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Also, and this prolly can't be stressed enough, all the players you have mentioned played like 12+ seasons with their original/main team, closer to 15 or more total in their career.

LaDainian Tomlinson has played...wait for it...wait for it...all of 8 seasons.
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Also, and this prolly can't be stressed enough, all the players you have mentioned played like 12+ seasons with their original/main team, closer to 15 or more total in their career.

LaDainian Tomlinson has played...wait for it...wait for it...all of 8 seasons.
Yet #2 all time in rushing TDs. God, please just can the guy ASAP. OMGZ injreez
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I'm gonna take the side of waving goodbye to one LdT. There is absolutely NO doubting what he's done for the Chargers as a franchise. Hell there isn't much doubt what he COULD still do for the Chargers franchise. But there's also the issue that for two years they have relied upon LdT to BE what he once was. And now at 29 he's finished two seasons nursing multiple injuries.

So what they have is a RB who can still put up numbers but nowhere near what they would be expecting from the guy based on what he has done. That and you still have to contend with him being a 30 year old back nursing injuries every other week.(and that's not to say there aren't other players who do that but from SD's standpoint... LdT has not been heavily involved in two gut wrenching playoff wins because of injuries while the guys that replaced him for importance... Rivers in the first playing with whatever crazy injury he was dealing with still led his team very effectively while in the second game his replacement had a monster week(300 total yards)...

So from SD's standpoint. Just from a business perspective. They are paying a guy the most money of any RB in the league who has had two three injuries which have effected his two previous seasons. His body of work isn't as impressive as it once was and he's coming to the age of 30 which is like a Brick wall for RB's.

Knowing all of this I would without a doubt sign Sproles to a deal slightly less then Marion Barber signed for last year.

Next I would be looking at teams who might be willing to take a chance on LdT getting them over the hump.(and I would assume that SD would look to move him to the NFC)

Noone in the NFC East has tradeable parts. Dallas is committed to Barber/Jones/Choice, Philly to Westbrook, Washington to Portis and NYG to Earth,Wind and Fire.

NFC North isn't really an option. I would assume that LdT would have some say in his destination and really... The only team who would want him or at the least trade for him would be Detroit and why the hell would Tomlinson want to go there?

NFC West is a deadbeat division. I think Edge may have saved his career in Arizona with his last few performances. And the same concerns are raised with the other three West sides as with the Lions. Bad teams with no hope for the future(with the exception of San Fran but they have Gore)

Which brings us to the most interesting division. Carolina and Atlanta are pretty setted methinks. But Tampa and NO are very interesting.

I don't think Tampa has anything they can offer though.

NO on the other hand has a fair bit going for it. They will allow Vilma to test FA which means they won't owe the Jets another pick this year. They still owe the Giants a pick for the Shockey trade though(I think)... However thinking slightly outside the box. They have a very pass happy offense. They have a bruiser and they have Bush(very Sproles...esque)... I would think they would love to get another back in who is more complete then Deuce and who can also offer a bit more to there passing game. I think LdT can be convinced to play for NO because of the percieved weakness of the NFC and because of his connection to Brees.

Now what would New Orleans have to trade???

I would definately allow McAllister to go the other way, but there would probably need to be a pick heading in that direction as well. Roughly a late second rounder...

So there you have it.

I think a trade to New Orleans for Deuce and a 2nd Round selection would be a good move for the Chargers. It allows them to run a Two headed monster(with Deuce getting 10-20, Sproles 10-15) It gives the Chargers a 2nd Round selection at best if they wish to draft another RB to compliment what they already have as of the trade. Plus they get rid of a fair bit of contract on a guy who will never be worth what he's getting paid again.

New Orleans is looking at reconnecting the Brees-LdT connection. Add a RB who can compliment there passing game even further and also will be better for not having to run the ball 20+ times a game.


Alternatively. SD could keep LdT forever~!
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Someone else here who has some ballz and ability to look forward and not just backwards, which is so easy. Everyone can look backwards.

A great GM once said it's better to get rid of a guy one year too soon instead of one year too late.

And nobody is saying RELEASE LT.
Cash him in. I still believe they could get a #1 pick for him, #2 for sure, which would be a new fresh starting RB who's hungry to earn his big contract.

Lt was worthless to the Chargers success this year and last year in the playoffs. This is Philip Rivers team now. Had he had Michael Turner this year instead of Tomlinson, this team would have been much better off. And going forward.......

Tomlinson to Cincinnati for their #2 and #5 picks.
Carson Palmer comes back and has a (old) franchise RB to rely on (he thinks).
The Chargers could use that pick on Shonn Greene or LeSean McCoy and never look back. And it will save the Chargers a ton of $ and allow them to keep the VALUBLE Sproles. That guy was HUGE this year, no pun intended.

Don't be scared people, things change.

Montana, Rice, Emmitt, Favre.... those guys were even better and bigger stars than LT and the got to, and WON at least 1 Super Bowl. They all finished up on other teams. Don't think it can't happen again.
Wait, what about Michael Jordan (Wizards) and Wayne Gretzky (Blues? Rangers?)........ but it can't happen to LT huh? Wrong.
cause #1 picks are always great?
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yeah that is very funny. the silly little popularity contest amongst the high school mentality. i get a kick out of that. bring it on girls!
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I'm gonna take the side of waving goodbye to one LdT. There is absolutely NO doubting what he's done for the Chargers as a franchise. Hell there isn't much doubt what he COULD still do for the Chargers franchise. But there's also the issue that for two years they have relied upon LdT to BE what he once was. And now at 29 he's finished two seasons nursing multiple injuries.

So what they have is a RB who can still put up numbers but nowhere near what they would be expecting from the guy based on what he has done. That and you still have to contend with him being a 30 year old back nursing injuries every other week.(and that's not to say there aren't other players who do that but from SD's standpoint... LdT has not been heavily involved in two gut wrenching playoff wins because of injuries while the guys that replaced him for importance... Rivers in the first playing with whatever crazy injury he was dealing with still led his team very effectively while in the second game his replacement had a monster week(300 total yards)...

So from SD's standpoint. Just from a business perspective. They are paying a guy the most money of any RB in the league who has had two three injuries which have effected his two previous seasons. His body of work isn't as impressive as it once was and he's coming to the age of 30 which is like a Brick wall for RB's.

Knowing all of this I would without a doubt sign Sproles to a deal slightly less then Marion Barber signed for last year.

Next I would be looking at teams who might be willing to take a chance on LdT getting them over the hump.(and I would assume that SD would look to move him to the NFC)

Noone in the NFC East has tradeable parts. Dallas is committed to Barber/Jones/Choice, Philly to Westbrook, Washington to Portis and NYG to Earth,Wind and Fire.

NFC North isn't really an option. I would assume that LdT would have some say in his destination and really... The only team who would want him or at the least trade for him would be Detroit and why the hell would Tomlinson want to go there?

NFC West is a deadbeat division. I think Edge may have saved his career in Arizona with his last few performances. And the same concerns are raised with the other three West sides as with the Lions. Bad teams with no hope for the future(with the exception of San Fran but they have Gore)

Which brings us to the most interesting division. Carolina and Atlanta are pretty setted methinks. But Tampa and NO are very interesting.

I don't think Tampa has anything they can offer though.

NO on the other hand has a fair bit going for it. They will allow Vilma to test FA which means they won't owe the Jets another pick this year. They still owe the Giants a pick for the Shockey trade though(I think)... However thinking slightly outside the box. They have a very pass happy offense. They have a bruiser and they have Bush(very Sproles...esque)... I would think they would love to get another back in who is more complete then Deuce and who can also offer a bit more to there passing game. I think LdT can be convinced to play for NO because of the percieved weakness of the NFC and because of his connection to Brees.

Now what would New Orleans have to trade???

I would definately allow McAllister to go the other way, but there would probably need to be a pick heading in that direction as well. Roughly a late second rounder...

So there you have it.

I think a trade to New Orleans for Deuce and a 2nd Round selection would be a good move for the Chargers. It allows them to run a Two headed monster(with Deuce getting 10-20, Sproles 10-15) It gives the Chargers a 2nd Round selection at best if they wish to draft another RB to compliment what they already have as of the trade. Plus they get rid of a fair bit of contract on a guy who will never be worth what he's getting paid again.

New Orleans is looking at reconnecting the Brees-LdT connection. Add a RB who can compliment there passing game even further and also will be better for not having to run the ball 20+ times a game.


Alternatively. SD could keep LdT forever~!

That was the post of the month right there, and it's nice to see there is at least one other MAN out here not afraid to follow the Girl Scout Troop Leader, and instead stand up like a man.
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Rework his contract, dont rely so heavily on him, im get an oline, now that rivers stepped up pass some more, get a 2nd Rb. LT injured this year was still better than what half of the NFL has at RB.
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Rework his contract, dont rely so heavily on him, im get an oline, now that rivers stepped up pass some more, get a 2nd Rb. LT injured this year was still better than what half of the NFL has at RB.
Not everyone is simply willing to REWORK the contract. The problem is how much LdT is worth on the books for the entirety of his contract(something you can't change). Now explain to me why LdT would be willing to rework it so SD might be more comfortable cutting him in a year or two taking some of his money away?

I mean I don't really disagree with the other things you brought up... But it relies on LdT putting some of his contract money on the line.

If the Chargers trade LdT away and get a player(straight replacement of sorts) as well as an extra draft pick. They can move with the rest of the NFL into a platoon system which makes it infinitely more comfortable for Rivers.(who seemed to thrive this year without having to throw a billion and one passes)... With LdT becoming more and more injury prone as the years wear on his body. The Chargers are going to(assuming they don't get a deal done with Sproles while LdT is still on the roster) have to draft 2 RB's this year to give Rivers the luxury of throwing less then 30 times a game.

If people on here could stop looking at the situation with one eye and examine all possible directions. They would see that trading LdT in just the situation I presented... Gives them more flexibility in the draft and allows them more freedom on offence without having to rely on LdT as heavily as they have over the years. If they stick with LdT(like he's even on the trading block right now... [insert rolleyes smilie here]) They have to spend quite a few picks this offseason on improving the RB corps. Hopefully getting LdT to rework his contract... And all without the benefit of a possible extra draft pick from any LdT trade.


I personally see more positives in trading LdT then I do with keeping him at this point because it's hard to see him getting back to his best.

That's a tough decision for SD to make. It's probably even tougher getting equal value from any trade... But it might be the exact thing that SD needs to get over the hump. Because they have had two pretty good chances over the last few years and a healthy RB might have got them there...
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Not everyone is simply willing to REWORK the contract. The problem is how much LdT is worth on the books for the entirety of his contract(something you can't change). Now explain to me why LdT would be willing to rework it so SD might be more comfortable cutting him in a year or two taking some of his money away?
I mean I don't really disagree with the other things you brought up... But it relies on LdT putting some of his contract money on the line.
Because he has the best chances to win a SB in San Diego. He loves San Diego, has always played there, why wouldnt he help out the team? reworking contracts doesnt mean that u get less money...

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If the Chargers trade LdT away and get a player(straight replacement of sorts) as well as an extra draft pick. They can move with the rest of the NFL into a platoon system which makes it infinitely more comfortable for Rivers.(who seemed to thrive this year without having to throw a billion and one passes)... With LdT becoming more and more injury prone as the years wear on his body. The Chargers are going to(assuming they don't get a deal done with Sproles while LdT is still on the roster) have to draft 2 RB's this year to give Rivers the luxury of throwing less then 30 times a game.
again, the problem really isnt LT. I watched a couple of SD games. And the Blocking was horrible, especially the FB blocking is horrendous. Those guys have to outjuke 1 guy just to get to the Line of scrimmage. Also, LT missed his first game since 2005. He obviously has some injuries, but darn, as soon as u pass that guy the ball he made nice plays. I mean he had 1.500+ yards from scrimmage, thats top10 in the league. With injuries. With horrible blocking...

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If people on here could stop looking at the situation with one eye and examine all possible directions. They would see that trading LdT in just the situation I presented... Gives them more flexibility in the draft and allows them more freedom on offence without having to rely on LdT as heavily as they have over the years. If they stick with LdT(like he's even on the trading block right now... [insert rolleyes smilie here]) They have to spend quite a few picks this offseason on improving the RB corps. Hopefully getting LdT to rework his contract... And all without the benefit of a possible extra draft pick from any LdT trade.
Why trade a proven top15 (at least) back for someone like Chris Wells? who has injury concerns? I mean, build a oline, let LT & Sproles (or another complimentary bacK) run some more years, spend a late round pick on a RB and develop him. Oline > RB.

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I personally see more positives in trading LdT then I do with keeping him at this point because it's hard to see him getting back to his best.

That's a tough decision for SD to make. It's probably even tougher getting equal value from any trade... But it might be the exact thing that SD needs to get over the hump. Because they have had two pretty good chances over the last few years and a healthy RB might have got them there...
U have the Fan favorite who is a top15 back with a horrible oline and want to trade him for an unproven back that could turn out to be someone like cedric benson running behind a bad oline. yea that sounds good? to me.
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LaDanian Tomilson career now will be similar to Marshall Faulk's. Still respectable player but no longer a star.
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and no one expects that.
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