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Old 01-12-2009, 07:18 PM    (permalink
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Come on dude, Norv now has 3 playoff wins under his belt, he deserves an eency bit of credit at this point.
No one will respect Norv as a HC until he wins a Superbowl, which is a shame.
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Apparently offense was the problem for Denver this year...wait a second....
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I don't think the whole offensive over defensive thing is that big of a deal, look at the colts, and the buccs for example. The defensive coordinator he brings in and whomever his personnel guys are will have a far greater impact.
I agree. We've seen guru coordinators stink at fixing a bad unit. ie Brian Billick or Marvin Lewis.

Cutler is still a young QB so a good coach to work with him could develop him into a better QB.
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I'm guessing that both McDaniels and McDermott are going to be in it for the long haul. Both guys are young, talented coaches. I am skeptical about Patriot assistants after Crennel, Weis and Mangini. Both coaches can get the job done, just as long as they can find a GM who can find talent.
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Well there goes the theory that Cassel will follow McDaniels.
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Mike Nolan will be the defensive coordinator. http://www.postchronicle.com/news/or...12199176.shtml
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so was he just not a good HC in SF? seems like he did a solid job last time he was a DC (baltimore, 01-04).
Baltimore's defense has that affect on DCs.
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I dunno why Baltimore hired him, but I figure for us, our defense is like 28th. So if we go down 5 spots.... we're #1!

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I dunno why Baltimore hired him, but I figure for us, our defense is like 28th. So if we go down 5 spots.... we're #1!

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Come on dude, Norv now has 3 playoff wins under his belt, he deserves an eency bit of credit at this point.
Only because Schottenheimer left behind a great team.
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i had actually thought he'd been there for a year before the best defense i've ever seen, but he got there the year after.

which was actually interesting.

on every single team where he's been hired as DC, the team has fallen precipitously in rank the season after he was hired. in only one case (baltimore), did that team's defense rebound to anything approaching respectability. you can trace this from the giants in 93, through the skins in 97, to baltimore. oddly, it also includes the jets, where he was only the DC for one season (in which they were substantially worse than the season before).

which all begs the question: why the hell does this guy keep getting hired?

i mean, i understand denver. it's not like our defense can actually get worse. but why did baltimore hire the guy?
Because first time coaches like to bring experienced head coaches with them. Harbaugh brought Rex Ryan and Mike Smith brought Mike Mularkey
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Apparently offense was the problem for Denver this year...wait a second....
Not to knock you personally or anything, but this is why fans are fans.

When you hire a coach, you're not hiring to patch over past mistakes. Not saying McDaniels is going to be a great coach, but I bet Denver thinks he can do/be something there.

Plus, just cause he's an offensive coach doesn't mean he doesn't know D. I'm sure he'll at least try to surround himself with some coordinators, which Mangini didn't do as far as DC goes.
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which doesn't at all explain anything i asked. why did baltimore hire him? he wasn't an experienced head coach. why did the redskins and jets hire him? he was almost a decade away from being a head coach, experienced or not.
I was just refering to his recent hiring I don't know why he was hired earlier in his career.
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We're all forgetting the victim in this situation:

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He had to play NT for the Jets, and when he finally gets traded to a 4-3 team, they move to the 3-4 the next season.

He kinds sucks either way, but horrible luck nevertheless.
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Only because Schottenheimer left behind a great team.
6 weeks ago I probably would have agreed with you but the guy kept the ship steady in the face of an abysmal and injury-riddled year. Plus you have to give him a ton of credit for Rivers' development, which in turn is the only reason we weren't 0-16 this year.
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Another Belichick tree limb hacked off. Like the rest he will wither and fade.


Hopefully not. I do like to see guys do well after leaving NE, but at this point we don't seem to keep coaches very long so it's tough to get too attached. lol


^ I just read a post by an SD fan on another forum (non-football one) hoping for a new QB next season b/c they are convinced Rivers sucks.
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Another Belichick tree limb hacked off. Like the rest he will wither and fade.


Hopefully not. I do like to see guys do well after leaving NE, but at this point we don't seem to keep coaches very long so it's tough to get too attached. lol


^ I just read a post by an SD fan on another forum (non-football one) hoping for a new QB next season b/c they are convinced Rivers sucks.
I heard that same rant from a drunken hobo on my way to work this morning. I didn't know he had a laptop.
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Shanny may have been a great offensive mind once, but McDaniels has been a much better play caller the past 2 seasons and I'm excited to see what he can do with the cutlerz
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Well Jay Cutler just got a lot better. I am kind of suprised they didn't get a defensive minded guy.
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I'm iffy on the hire personally, but optimistic and hopeful. Really, nobody knows how good/bad he will do. We'll just have to wait and see.
And to say the Broncos should've hired a defensive guy, how do you not know McDaniel's can't run a competitive defense?
Heck, maybe Spags didn't know enough about offense to be a good coach in Denver.
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I'm iffy on the hire personally, but optimistic and hopeful. Really, nobody knows how good/bad he will do. We'll just have to wait and see.
And to say the Broncos should've hired a defensive guy, how do you not know McDaniel's can't run a competitive defense?
Heck, maybe Spags didn't know enough about offense to be a good coach in Denver.
I agree with this, spags knows very little about offense and so no team should hire him as HC...at least not until coughlin suffers a stroke and is no longer able to coach.
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