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It's looking more likely than ever that the quarterback the Vikings will target is the Patriots' Matt Cassel, who could cost $30 million in guaranteed money as well as first- and second-round draft picks. The Vikings' first-round pick is expected to be between Nos. 21 and 23 overall this spring. Cassel, 26, has played four seasons in the NFL, has learned from no-nonsense coaches Bill Belichick in New England and Pete Carroll at Southern California, and is of strong character, as Carroll will tell them when the Vikings do their background checks.
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Wow, a first AND second rounder? I'd be happy with just the first, or a pair of seconds. What do you guys think?
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Well Schaub got Atlanta two 2nds and a swap of firsts and Cassel is worth more than him. Though a 1st and a 2nd is a bit steep...
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Spending that much and giving up that many picks is too much, even if Cassel could likely be the missing piece. I'd say go after Kurt Warner instead, except their offensive line sucks at pass blocking, so they need a younger guy who's quicker on his feet. And Warner would struggle at Chicago and at Lambeau anyways.

I said all last season they should have gone after Pennington.
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I thought they would make a run for Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn if they were willing to give up a lucrative amount.
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I really hope that the Vikes don't go after him. I think he's a product of the system.

But, then, I was wrong about Jared Allen, so...
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I don't buy him as being worth that at all. Not even close.
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Haha, I would laugh, laugh at the Vikings. Matt Cassel will suck without a good coach. Brad Childress is not a good coach.
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Cassel might take some time getting used to the Vikings system but he's mobile, smart, accurate, and tough, so that's not bad. He's not a deep thrower but he should be a solid quarterback.
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I think the Vikings have shown time and time again that they're willing to pay/trade anything to make a splash in the offseason. If they did this it wouldn't surprise me.
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Why....If he is willing to give up a 1st and 2nd, why not go out and shop around for a more Proven QB than Cassel. If it happen tomorrow, I would be a very frustrated viking fan. We need a QB badly but I really just dont know how Cassel is going to pan out without 2 All Pro caliber Receivers and very good Line. The Draft was fun last year but sort of less interesting without a first round pick and not until the 2nd round so I wouldnt be happy at all unless this panned out for the good.
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It seems like a bad move on the surface but the Vikings are probably a competent QB away from being a legit Super Bowl contender and one of the best teams in the league.

I don't even like Cassel that much but if you look at his body of work this season- he's proven to be at the very least a solid QB you can win with. We forget that he's still young and could even improve as a player with more experience. Plus, while he wouldn't have the weapons on the outside like in New England, he'd have a much better running game.

If the Vikings feel he can be their franchise QB, it really IS worth the two first rounders. And like I said, instead of investing that pick in a rookie with no NFL experience, they'd already have a one-year-under-his-belt Cassel with a shot to lead them to a second straight division title and maybe beyond as early as next season.
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It seems like a bad move on the surface but the Vikings are probably a competent QB away from being a legit Super Bowl contender and one of the best teams in the league.

I don't even like Cassel that much but if you look at his body of work this season- he's proven to be at the very least a solid QB you can win with. We forget that he's still young and could even improve as a player with more experience. Plus, while he wouldn't have the weapons on the outside like in New England, he'd have a much better running game.

If the Vikings feel he can be their franchise QB, it really IS worth the two first rounders. And like I said, instead of investing that pick in a rookie with no NFL experience, they'd already have a one-year-under-his-belt Cassel with a shot to lead them to a second straight division title and maybe beyond as early as next season.
There are cheaper ways of finding a competant quarterback. 30 million guaranteed? WTF?

It's not an issue of if this would improve the Vikings, I'm sure it would, it's just a matter of value, and Cassell is not worth that combination of picks and money.
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I just don't think this will happen. If we are really thinking of giving up that much for a QB why not just try and move up in the draft. I think that would be a better move than throwing a ton of money at a guy who could be a one year wonder. Time will tell. I will say one thing though, anyone we get will be way better than TJack or Gus and we won the division with those two...so all you Bear and Packer fans better be careful what you wish for.
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I think Cassel is underrated here, and will be a very good starter in this league. Sure, he still has learning to do and his numbers were inflated because of New England, but that doesn't change that he is an extremely intelligent player who has a great work ethic and the tools to be at least a solid starter in the league.

I personally hope the Vikings don't do this as I don't want to face Cassel twice a year. I'd prefer them trading up for someone like Bradford.
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Lol calm down fellas, if you'd just do a little bit of research you'd realize that this rumor came from the king of rumors for Minnesota newspapers in Charley Walters. It is likely only an idea that spawned in his bored little head to spark the interests of people like ya'll.
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For as much as people are ragging on Cassel, he made some very impressive throws this season and mobility that had nothing to do with the system...Now I do think a 1st and a 2nd is too much even though I like his fit with that team, but if they make the super bowl I don't think they will view it as a bad move.


Still I'd consider other options, I'd much rather just spend money on Kurt Warner and look in the draft for a QB.
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There are cheaper ways of finding a competant quarterback. 30 million guaranteed? WTF?

It's not an issue of if this would improve the Vikings, I'm sure it would, it's just a matter of value, and Cassell is not worth that combination of picks and money.
A QB with the combination of proven talent AND potential that Cassel has will never be cheap.

The cheaper alternatives are a 2nd round QB: Fail, and a journeyman veteran: Fail.

A franchise QB in the NFL is invaluable and worth almost any amount of reasonable $ and picks combined. If the Vikings or any other team believe Cassel is a franchise QB, they'll offer whatever they need to in order to get him.
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