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Old 01-14-2009, 11:54 PM    (permalink
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Randy Moss and T.O. on the same team....that wouldent be a disaster at all
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I would love T.O. on the Patriots. Maybe I'm crazy, but Moss/Owens/Welker catching passes from Brady makes me wet.
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I would love T.O. on the Patriots. Maybe I'm crazy, but Moss/Owens/Welker catching passes from Brady makes me wet.
I don't know if even Bill B. could keep TO in check
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I think Stephen is taking the team first approach to this, and Jerry just wants to win.
Can someone explain this to me? I am at a loss with this line of reasoning. Keeping TO is the antithesis of winning anything. What has TO won?

Jones problem is he thinks talent over comes all. HE IS WRONG. Many fans think Jones is right. They are wrong.

Stephen Jones is showing some common sense and saying "what good is TO's talent if nobody cares to work with him." Last I checked, you have 11 on the field at all times and you can't have guys with differing agendas calling out his teammates and coaches when things go wrong.

Problem in Dallas is their idiot coach and idiot GM kept feeding this guy's ego for two years after Parcells, making him a team captain and this year, as their reward for annointing him an unworthy leader, TO went off on his OC, QB and TE all because "he wants to win" yet it was eerily correlated with his poor production. May I point his first series of rants (on Garrett) started in a Stephen A interview AFTER they won in DC?????

Everytime someone mentions his flaws and the decline in production he throws everyone under the bus. But bad routes, bad hands, alligator arms and constantly calling attention to himself is not a good way to "motivate" teammates. Screaming and yelling at them pretending to be Ray Lewis only further worsens it because EVERYONE CAN SEE THREW THE CIRCUS ACT.

I am so sick of "The Player" and all thehorribly misguided folks who continue to step up and defend this guy.

It is like History was invented yesterday with him.

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Okay come onnnn, T.O. complains about wanting to get the ball more.


Anthony Spencer gets in a fight drunk outside a resturant, Pac Man has been arrested double digit times I think, Tank Williams was involved with what drugs and guns? But no Owens is the problem with this team.

He hasn't been involved with drugs, guns, crimes, arrests, fights, skipping practices or meetings, ETC ETC ETC. Yeah hearing about him complaining gets damn old, but compare him to others and geez he seems alright to me.

Have you ever heard of him not being prepared or in top physical shape or missing mandatory team activities? No.
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Okay come onnnn, T.O. complains about wanting to get the ball more.


Anthony Spencer gets in a fight drunk outside a resturant, Pac Man has been arrested double digit times I think, Tank Williams was involved with what drugs and guns? But no Owens is the problem with this team.

He hasn't been involved with drugs, guns, crimes, arrests, fights, skipping practices or meetings, ETC ETC ETC. Yeah hearing about him complaining gets damn old, but compare him to others and geez he seems alright to me.

Have you ever heard of him not being prepared or in top physical shape or missing mandatory team activities? No.
You can be a great teammate and yet be a total degenerate. Why folks confuse one's personal moral code & conduct with their ability to contribute to the team is beyond me. Great mobsters are great teammates even though bad people. Great CEOs are frequently hated by their ids and spouses for their ways. But hey, folks see what they want to see and disregard the rest.

Nevertheless, Football is about winning using a team concept, I am more interested in TO's interaction with his mates and coaches then whether he gets drunk or writes kiddie books.

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I wonder if Dallas can get a 2nd and 5th from him for TO ..... much like ATL ripping him off for the washed out DeAngelo "fastest man" Hall.

Guys like TO and Hall play football because they can -- not because they want to. If they wanted to they would dedicate themselves to their craft and worry about that moreso than publicity. It would also show on the field in the form of less mistakes and more play making given their obvious athletic talent.

This (Dallas and Oakland) is what happens when you use PR releases and baseball cards stats in building a football roster.

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I would love T.O. on the Patriots. Maybe I'm crazy, but Moss/Owens/Welker catching passes from Brady makes me wet.
Some people thought the same thing about TO, Roy Williams and Witten. TO simply won't get enough touches in NE to keep him happy. He'll become a bigger distraction and will slack off more on routes where he isn't the primary target.

TO simply isn't the elite WR that he once was. He's still very good, but he's not in the same class as Fitz or Andre Johnson.
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Some people thought the same thing about TO, Roy Williams and Witten. TO simply won't get enough touches in NE to keep him happy. He'll become a bigger distraction and will slack off more on routes where he isn't the primary target.

TO simply isn't the elite WR that he once was. He's still very good, but he's not in the same class as Fitz or Andre Johnson.
I really think he would fall in line with the Patriots for some reason. Also Roy Williams is not really good.
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T.O. would need to buy into the team first mentality of New England. If he could do that like Randy Moss did, then I would gladly accept him. However, I think that T.O. will still always put himself before the team. If Owens can ever mature and realize that if he wants to win a championship he will need to adopt a team first attitude. I personally like Owens as a players, as a teammate not so much. The guy has the talent, just needs to realize he needs to change his approach because his time to win a title is running short.

Plus as others have said Moss, Welker, and Owens would be unreal!:)
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TO in NE? Doubt it. Dallas O is sick when all the weapons are healthy & Romo doesn't turn the ball over too many time per game. That would change w/o TO. I love Roy Will, but he needs to show he's still a stud. Personally, I think he would prove that if the Boys were smart enough to ditch TO and give Roy the chance.
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I dont want T.O to NE. He'd be booted after the first week of practice, however it'd be pretty funny to see Brady putting him in his place after he mouths off.
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TO is already threatened by Randy Moss as it is, he can't handle the fact that Randy has always been a clearly better player, and would never accept being the second option.... if that.

Moss might be the man, but Welker gets more throws his way, could TO handle that? Doubt it, he might not blow the team up, but he would mope around like a female.
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TO problem has never been that he hasnt worked hard on and off the field someone to still be good at his age shows that he does put the work in to keep his skills sharp on the field. What i think is a problem for him is his personality and mental issues i think the guy has one of the worst cases of narcissism i have seen in football the guys ego is so big he can not do whats best for the team even if it were to reduce his play time he is all about himself. They win a game but he gets upset and complains how he doesnt get enough catches, the next game they are loosing but he just catches a long td pass and you see him afterwards smiling and expressing how he is the best. Its not that he isnt a good player but the man doesnt have his head straight to ever think he thinks team and win before his stats and play time. I also think he has a hard time looking past that due to him always having problems with other players such has the quarterback who is supposed to be the leader of the team.

TO is so bad that even if he played Madden by him self he would get mad at himself for not throwing enough to TO.

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I don't think TO is really the "cancer" everyone makes him out to be, but i do feel like if he was gone Tony could just go through his reads and find the open guys...Our offense is fine with Roy as a #1, Austin as a 2, and Crayton in the slot especially if we use both Witten and Bennett.


It could work with TO still here, but not with Wade and Garrett here, TO never seems to be happy, and you can tell Romo goes through some games trying to force balls his way, and Garrett probably gameplans to keep TO happy at times...I would be interested to see how this offense looked without him in the picture, but again I won't place all the blame on him, but the older he gets I just don't see the situation with him getting better.
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Please excuse me if I'm ignorant, but isn't Terrell Owens's work ethic actually considered good? He's definitely a physical specimen who does take care of his body fairly well, which I do say in the straightest possible way.

Or are we talking about route running, hands, etc.? Sometimes you can't fix alligator arms or below-average hands, it's not always concentration issues. I do remember the Eagles (I believe) saying he slept in team meetings often, so maybe it is not worth mentioning.

It's a shame. We all want to see, as fans, players the caliber of Owens every Sunday. Though aging, he's still a lethal player. However he has a habit of dividing locker rooms if ESPN is to be believed. If Romo or Garrett (presuming he stays) can't work alongside him, then it is best for both parties to go their seperate ways.

But now, given Owens's history, it seems the Cowboys may have to cut him or at least apologize profusely. I don't think Owens, or for that matter anyone, would like to play for a franchise in which key front office memebrs want you cut because of your "attitude". This could lead to some riffs.

Another soap opera, ugh. First T.O., Vick, then Favre, now T.O. again.
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I'd rather TJ.
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I'd rather TJ.
Wouldn't TJ be looking to be the main man after playing behind 85 for so long? And yes I realize New England is a great chance for a Super Bowl victory. Give me another reason.
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Wouldn't TJ be looking to be the main man after playing behind 85 for so long? And yes I realize New England is a great chance for a Super Bowl victory. Give me another reason.
Catching passes from Tom Brady? Money?
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Catching passes from Tom Brady? Money?
GRRRRRR.. I left myself open for that.
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