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Old 01-16-2009, 06:57 PM    (permalink
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Not too suprising that there is not one Patriot on that list. It is crazy seeing Bailey, Cromartie, Clements, Tillman, and Barber left off the list; who would've imagined that not one of them would be on there at the beginning of the year. The improvement of Corey Webster over the last year and a half or so was really made evident, he has made some big strides. Asomugha has also cemented himself as the game's best.
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Glad to see Sheldon get some love, he had a great season.
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leigh bodden didn't do ****. he should be not on there at all. Chris Gamble is too low, he had an amazing start and a solid finish. I think Asante is too low. Those little stats he uses for the DBs are pretty much worthless. Watch a game, **** stats.
Right but he played on the Lions. How could he of done ****?
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Chris Johnson being that good this year was awesome. It's good to see a guy who ran a 4.18 at his pro day finally turning speed into production. I found it funny how 3 Raiders were in the top 11 too. Good list, good post.
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Really Samari Rolle? Every Ravens fan that has been posting is talking about how bad he is and how he is basically done, yet you have him in the top 10? Also, how have you been able to watch all the NFL games this season?
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I think DRC is gonna be better than Flowers. I love me some Flowers though.

That whole CB class is gonna be so sick.
KC has 3 rookie CB's(Flowers, Carr and Leggett) who if the pass rush ever exsists could be a scary trio
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Ike Taylor not being on that list is a joke. Hell that entire list is a joke.

2 Steeler corners better than Ike? Not a chance. Theres a reason Ike gets put in single coverage on the other teams best receiver every game.
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Not so sure on Leon Hall being so low (to prove I'm not just being a homer, he shouldn't be below Joseph). Sure, he had a bad game against the Ravens, two bad plays, one being an amazing catch/push off.

Hall tied the league lead for pass deflections and was great in run coverage (top 10 in total tackles among CB's). I have little doubt he should be higher on this list.

EDIT: Hall also put up these numbers with the 2nd worst pass rush defense in the league.
This. He played out of his mind this year with JJ being out. That Baltimore game was hardly his fault. I had little confidence in him being a #1 CB but he really stepped in and played well.
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Obviously, since these rankings are just based on stats, there's so much left to be desired, but they are a good outlook of how these guys are playing. I'm elated to see Mike Jenkins and Adam Jones (who just might come back) were on there, despite our secondary being absolutely decimated by injuries. I'm not sure if their numbers were that good because Anthony Henry kept getting picked on, but whatever, i'm cool with it. To know that Asomugha only got thrown at 29 times (9 completed) all year is absolutely filthy. Nothing short of amazing. What makes it even better is the fact that the guy opposite of him put up very good stats as well, so you can't just sit there and say they threw opposite field all day because the other guy was a scrub.
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Everyone that's saying the OP is wrong or wondering how he could have watched every game this year should relax on him. I don't think he came up with the rankings. I think he posted an article from someone else without a link, unless his name really is Tony Pisano.


Edit:But Leon Hall really should be way higher.
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There are certainly some things I disagree with... but I would like to add in that Chevis Jackson can play for real. He was a ******* awesome nickleback for us.
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Everyone that's saying the OP is wrong or wondering how he could have watched every game this year should relax on him. I don't think he came up with the rankings. I think he posted an article from someone else without a link, unless his name really is Tony Pisano.


Edit:But Leon Hall really should be way higher.
Yeah, your right. I don't think the OP wrote this, he was just posting the article. I've seen this article posted on a couple different sites now.
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Right but he played on the Lions. How could he of done ****?
exactly - why should he be ranked that high, b/c he didn't do **** with the Lions?


another thing, he says Winfield is overrated, but Clements, Robinson never were, never will be as good of a tackler as Antoine. The man is on crack, Winfield is relatively pretty old too
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People actually thought a member of this site wrote these rankings?
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Kevin Dockery? oh my, the epicness of that fail is beyond comprehension...
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Nice going with Chris Johnson at number 6, he is a stud.
He was absolutely perfect for Ryan's scheme, interested to see how he adjusts next season. But I agree, he is a stud therefore any corner to Oakland at #7 would be ridiculous under almost any circumstances.
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I agree with Wright having the talent to be one of the best, and I agree completely with the fact that he doesn't have much help on defense, but it is also why I am completely against drafting Malcom Jenkins... We need a pass rusher whether it be a linebacker in free agency and we also need a legit MLB to go beside D'Qwell Jackson, if we get a stud OLB in free agency and another ILB then we will be good (Aaron Curry or trade down a bit and get Malaluga?)
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There's an odd amount of AFC West love in that list. I'll warrant a guess that the author is a fan of the Raiders?

I'm not sure how you can rank Harper over Finnegan, that's pretty silly. Harper is a total liability beyond 10 yards downfield which is why he gets safety help often. Technically if he lets one through it's probably on the safety, but the fact he needs help should be a penalty. Finnegan on the other hand is typically on more of an island and is clearly far less a liability. His game is solid from top to bottom, Harper's is not. To suggest Harper is a better CB than Finnegan is laughable.

Also, not every CB is playing the same scheme which the author doesn't seem to recognize. Some DC's will happily let their CB's get done on a pass, for under 10 yards. I also have a hard time believing this author really saw every single play this season from every single game as claimed.
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I'm no Rams fan, but Rob Bartell is not a Top ten corner in the league? This is a terrible terrible terrible list in general, as mentioned with Harper over Finnegan and all that.
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Deshea Townsend over "dismal" Ike Taylor?


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Great write up. Glad to see you put Leodis up there dispite his poor start of the season.
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I'm sorry, but the author of that article has extreme bias for the Raiders and some of his rankings are flat out dumb.
No way did Chris Johnson play like a top 10 CB, and Stanford Routt #11? I mean, come on now.
Some of the other guys, I mean we have All Pro's from this year ranked in the 20's. lol
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The biggest problem with this list is it doesn't account for who these guys were lining up against which is why we see guys who usually need safety help and/or draw the opposition's second option have an advantage in stastics he uses, which is why we see guys like harper and dockery doing so well despite being rather mediocre. That said nice seeing guys like bartell, sheldon brown and cory Webster getting love. Not enough people realize these guys are some of the better guys in that second tier after aso and champ.
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