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Old 01-22-2009, 11:52 AM    (permalink
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Kiper's first mock draft (1/22) has us taking Stafford #1 and Rey Maualuga #20.

I don't think Lions fans could really argue against this notion too much. He's got Raji going at 12, by the way.

Someone like Alphonso Smith is available at 33 for us in his scenario . . .

Only thing I might argue about is Oher falling to 28. I might prefer him to Maualuga at 20, but both would be awesome.

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I would take it, although I'm not sure im sold on Malaluga. I don't know why...
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I wouldn't complain bout it I think Britton might be a better OT than Oher don't know why but I believe it. Stafford + Rey Rey + Britton (who would be there at 33 ) + Brace + Macho Harris done boom print
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Sick sick sick. If that's the way the draft shook out, I'd be freakin ecstatic.
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maualuga is a rallying type of player for a defense. people would believe in his godliness whether he fully deserved it or not. we need a total overhaul at linebacker especially if schwartz wants a bigger linebacker than sims. might as well be mau. i am willing to trade the pick and a later one to ensure raji though.
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It's already been said, but it doesn't seem like Schwartz will put an emphasis on MLB.
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I would take it, although I'm not sure im sold on Malaluga. I don't know why...
I'm not sold either. There's just something about him.

I hope we shy away from MLB early like P-L mentioned. I'm not excited by Laurinaitis either. Spikes was my favorite of the 3.
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I wouldn't complain bout it I think Britton might be a better OT than Oher don't know why but I believe it. Stafford + Rey Rey + Britton (who would be there at 33 ) + Brace + Macho Harris done boom print
There's definite concerns for whether Britton could play the Left Side in the NFL. I don't see why people would want another RT . . . ?

Oher is legit on the left.
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Maualuga is the man. He's an intimidating presence and he has wonderful hair. I'd love to have him on the Lions.
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Maualuga is the man. He's an intimidating presence and he has wonderful hair. I'd love to have him on the Lions.
His hair is one of his biggest detractors, IMO.
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His hair is one of his biggest detractors, IMO.
So how do you explain the Walter Herrmann phenomenon that's sweeping the Nation?
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So how do you explain the Walter Herrmann phenomenon that's sweeping the Nation?
Totally different. Herrmann's hair is only notable because it's the only thing keeping him from total obscurity. That and his one-man full court press defense. He never even plays anymore.
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If Rey's the BPA at 20, the Lions really have to look hard at taking him. He would definitely help with run defense and situational blitzing.

Anyone have the scoop on the OT from Conneticut, Wlliam Beatty?
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I agree with Kiper in terms of the top 3 picks. I see Stafford and Sanchez going in the top 3 picks. I think we need a defense tackle more than we need a linebacker. Paris Lenon has played decent. We need sombody who can stuff the run, wreck havoc against the pass, and get in the face of the QBs.


I love Peria Jerry. He is a very talented football player. He is unblockable during the senior practices. I feel Jerry is one of the top 5 players in the draft. He has second gear you would not believe. He is bull rushing the offensive tackle or guard, gets stuck and puts it on a another gear and gets pass the blocker. When you look at him, he does not have a lot of muscle tone and flappy stomach but man can he play. Jerry is a beast and not too far off from Raji. I would not mind trading up if Jerry goes sooner. Mayok has him going late first round. Jerry looks like he could go anywhere 15 and on. Raji may be top ten.

Alphonso Smith is a special players. I hope his lack of size allows us to draft him with second pick. I see a big gap betwen Smith and Macho Harris. Smith is so cocky. Plays right up on you and usually is able to get his hands on the ball to deflect the passes. Mayok loves Alphonso Smith. He's 5'8 but has one of the best cover skills i've seen in this year.

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There's no way you pass on Oher if he's there at 20. this kid may end up in the top 5, i really disagree with mel on that one.

If we could get those two then i won't mind taking stafford but if we whiff on an LT, then i really dont like the stafford pick.
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I'm not sold either. There's just something about him.

I hope we shy away from MLB early like P-L mentioned. I'm not excited by Laurinaitis either. Spikes was my favorite of the 3.
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Just want to add that I have your top 3 exactly like 5 fingers does. Stafford obviously, Perry who does a lot of the things Haynesworth does, and Alphonso Smith reminds me a lot of Pacman, who excelled with Schwartz.
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There's definite concerns for whether Britton could play the Left Side in the NFL. I don't see why people would want another RT . . . ?

Oher is legit on the left.
Big, agile, good feet. As of now would probably be one of the top 2 or 3 LTs. Who has concerns?
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Well from the comments at the Senior Bowl, I'm more confused than ever. I've been a huge Stafford booster from the beginning but he didn't exactly get an overwhelming endorsement from Mayock or Davis. Mayock questioned a number of areas he thought Stafford was weak in, now it may only be inexperience but I think until Stafford works out probably at his pro day we won't know till then if he has what it takes to be a franchise QB.
Davis on the other hand seemed to like Sanchez better so I think our #1 overall pick is still up in the air.
As for Maualuga, the consensus was that he is a great run stuffer and a decent blitzer but they did point out that he may only be a 2 down LBer who has difficulty dropping into coverage, and if that is the case, he certainly isn't going top 12 so he might fall to us but if he demonstrates he can handle dropping into coverage, we won't get a shot at him at #20.
Mayhew is going to have a huge decision to make on draft day especially with the #1 overall pick and I think we won't get a hint until just before the draft if then on who he has settled on.
It is going to be a long wait for me.
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If we draft an LT we have to get rid of Backus. It doesn't make sense to be paying 3 huge salaries on a terrible offensive line...
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Big, agile, good feet. As of now would probably be one of the top 2 or 3 LTs. Who has concerns?

I'm hearing more and more that he is a RT prospect not a LT. Then there is William Beatty of Connecticut who has had an outstanding Senior Bowl and is projected as a solid LT prospect. Just tremendous feet for a big man.
We won't know about Britton until the Combine.
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the thing about rey is that he is great against the run. Schwartz said from day one that he is focused on stopping the run first so He may like rey. He would give us 2 great LBs who can lay a hit with him and sims.

Im also starting to question if we are seriously going to look at Stafford at 1. So far it looks like we are focusing on defense first and Im curious if we will looke at defense with all our 1st 3 picks. If Orakpo has a good showing they may be leaning towards him at 1.

Orakpo
Raji/ Peria
Best CB available

they may be interested in doing a complete overhaul of the defense this year and focus on offense next year.
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