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Old 01-30-2009, 03:10 AM    (permalink
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"He went from averaging 8.8 carries for 38.1 yards to averaging 21.1 carries for 83.8 yards.

Smith was just 24 yards away from being the league’s fourth rookie rusher with 1,000 yards-or-more in 2008, even after finishing the first half of the season with just 305 rushing yards."
Besides for playing on the lions, why is Mr.Smith still overlooked compared to his peers at RB?
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I think you hit it. He played on an 0-16 team, didn't hit 1,000 yards.

That being said, I like him a lot next year. Detroit is keeping the ZBS, and Linehan likes using a feature back. It should be interesting.
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He's a good back, which is why I don't think the situation for a rookie QB is the bad in DET. They have weapons on offense.
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He's a good back, which is why I don't think the situation for a rookie QB is the bad in DET. They have weapons on offense.
and who are those weapons? other then Johnson and Smith. The o-line needs to grow a pair, and they need to rebuild many other positions.
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and who are those weapons? other then Johnson and Smith. The o-line needs to grow a pair, and they need to rebuild many other positions.
Megatron is worth two weapons....if that makes anything different.
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Megatron is worth two weapons....if that makes anything different.
You need to stop underrating Megatron, He's clearly worth 5. ;)
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I like Kevin Smith. I think he can be a decent 4.0/1000k rusher type. The kind of guy that can move the chains when you need him to. Granted, I haven't seen him play that much, but from the little I did see he looked decent. He just need some better blocking linemen. A good passing game to take some pressure off would be nice too.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:00 AM    (permalink
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He reminds me of Curtis Martin....alot (smart runner, great vision, good moves, tough, handles the rock). give him the amount of carries the 1k rookies had and he'd probably be second in rookie rushing, but that's not the thing that impresses me about him...it's the fact that he's doing this with a bad (arguably worst in the league) O-line.

I think another reason why Kevin Smith gets over-looked is the fact that he's not as fast as most of the rookies in this class (which is true). But what he does have is superior vision, nobody in this classes matches him in this category (IMHO) and I feel that only Felix Jones has better lateral cutback moves in the open field.

I know most haven't seen kevin smith this year (I wouldn't have either if I wasn't a lions fan), so go watch some short clips at the official NFL site should be a nice start.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c5e8ad

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Highlights are just for those who haven't really seen him play, not a indicator on how good he is, etc...
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I like Kevin Smith. I think he can be a decent 4.0/1000k rusher type. The kind of guy that can move the chains when you need him to. Granted, I haven't seen him play that much, but from the little I did see he looked decent. He just need some better blocking linemen. A good passing game to take some pressure off would be nice too.
He's a lot more explosive than you give him credit for. Granted, he's not a Chris Johnson, Felix Jones, or Darren McFadden, but he does have a good amount of burst and is very shifty. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get 4.4+ YPC throughout his career.
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Put it this way...he can only get better. If Detroit is going to win games, they will be grinding out 4th quarters with this guy, something the Lions didn't even get to do in 2008.
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Really looked good down the stretch. If the Lions chose to beef up that offensive line he could be looking at a big year next year. You have to love the fact that he's a complete back. Good receiver and not a bad blocker either.
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Really looked good down the stretch. If the Lions chose to beef up that offensive line he could be looking at a big year next year. You have to love the fact that he's a complete back. Good receiver and not a bad blocker either.
was the best (RB) blocker on the team in the beginning of the season. I dont know if that's good or bad though.
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His two strong suits coming out, his patience and vision, are why I felt he would suceed wherever he ended up, he reminded me of Shaun Alexander before the draft and I still see some of that in him...I feel like he's going to beast next year, even with marginal blocking he can find the hole and has the speed to outrun the defense, I'm really glad he didn't decide to go back to school.


Grabbing Stafford would give them a nice trio to build around, and a line can be rebuilt in one off-season(see: Miami), but I really do see a bright future for Smith.
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Smith is a beast and anyone who watched Central Florida games since 2005 has known that. To put up the numbers he did with no offensive line, no quarterback, and only one other weapon on offense was just amazing.
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He is going to be facing a lot of 8 man fronts next year.
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and who are those weapons? other then Johnson and Smith. The o-line needs to grow a pair, and they need to rebuild many other positions.
Well they have an elite WR, and a good RB. And from what I hear Cherilus looked like a starter, thats better than most teams with that poor of a record. I agree that they need lots of other positions, the majority on defense. But alot of people were saying how Det would ruin a good QB because its a horrible situation, but atleast offensively it's not as bad as it gets.
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Annnnnddd now Kevin Smith is overrated due to this thread.
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Look for the Lions to bring in a better TE, Linehan loves his TEs

and that should definetly help out Smith and whatever QB they bring in
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I'm still sleeping on Detroit's Oline.
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He is a good back to do what he did on a team like that is very impressive.
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