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Old 03-15-2010, 08:34 AM    (permalink
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It's not that I didn't like Watson, it's just that he was a completely unreliable receiver. Ben always seemed to get stone hands at the worst possible moment. I think Brady knew it and that is the reason Ben wasn't more involved in the offense. Not because the system doesn't call for him to be involved, but because Brady didn't trust him enough to keep him involved.

We will likely miss him this year, though, but that's mostly because we now have exactly zero tight ends on the roster.
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Shawn Andrews is out there. I really think we should be in the market for him.
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Shawn Andrews is out there. I really think we should be in the market for him.
That was my first thought as well. But it should be as a backup, I have no confidence in him being healthy enough to start every week. However, he would be a beast of a backup! But at this point, I'd rather start Neal.
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The Patriots won't sign Shawn Andrews. Too many question marks regarding his durability and maturity and on top of that he's not really the type of lineman we have in New England either.
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I would have liked to see NE go after Stacy Andrews if he left Philly but not Shawn. The guy doesn't seem to care about football at all. He's played 2 games in 2 years, 4 games? No thanks.
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The guy was injured and went through a depression. As I said earlier: If we can get him cheap and use him as a backup I'd be fine with it. Assuming he checks out medically and he's over his depression of course. I know he doesn't fit the mold of a NE lineman, but the guys talent is undeniable and he could really help our running game.
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But there's no way to really get a reliable answer to the medical question. It's not like you give a physical and find he's no longer depressed. And even if he seems ok he could be a seasonal bout type of guy and check out on us once the leaves fall. Philly brought his brother in to help baby him along and even that wasn't enough.

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Here you go:


I still don't agree though. :)
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I thnk our need is enough that I wouldn't be upset with a move like that.

I just don't have any faith the he wants to play. That's been his knock for a few years now and, sure enough, he hasn't played.
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We don't have to count on him to play, we have Stephen Neal if that doesn't work out. That's what makes it a good, low risk gamble. If he can play/wants to, he's a huge upgrade over Neal and a major addition to our efforts to improve our run blocking.
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...and lose out on Graham/Hughes.
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Hey! Sweet! Alge Crumpler is really great. What's that? It isn't 2005 anymore? ****.
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I like the Crumpler signing. He should make for a pretty decent blocking tight end, like what Kyle Brady and Chris Baker were here for. We still need someone dynamic who can contribute more as a receiver though. I think they still need a tight end in the first two rounds, whether it's drafting Gresham or Gronkowski or even Hernandez, or trading for Olsen or even Bo Scaife, who obviously Floyd Reese likes a lot. He has a first-round tender but they'd probably trade him for a second.
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Crumpler has very little left in his old bones but I think we can all agree he's an instant upgrade over our current starter.
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Seriously, at least it's a body. Alge is done as a receiver, very done, but he can still block effectively. Still strange, he's a downgrade from Baker IMO.
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I have no idea what went down with Baker. He looked like he was a lock to replace Watson last season and then was used very little despite looking more effective.

Baker, Crumpler and whoever we draft would have been a decent TE roster heading into the season. It's definitely confusing.

Crumpler can still catch but he may as well be a dummy with hands. He's not going anywhere but down once he has the ball.
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Yeah. I would be surprised to see him put up 200 yards in our offense. Maybe he could get some touchdowns for us though. Our goal line passing has really declined as of late.
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He's a pretty wide dude these days, so you have to figure he would at least be tough for LBs & Safeties to get around. lol
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Yeah, there's that. I have no idea what the hell happened on the goal line last year. In 2007, I counted like at least six play action touchdown passes to tight ends on the goal line. That's just gone. We really would have been a much, much better team if we could have thrown it in red zone like we used to.
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08 & 09 were pretty bad for goalline passing. I remember quite a few games in that stretch where I was basically screaming at the t.v. because Moss was on the sidelines.

To me, even if the ball is inside the 3, Moss should always be on the field. Nothing keeps a defense more honest than Randy as a threat for a quick fade, stop, backshoulder or straigh up jump ball.
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I agree.

Also; why the hell is Wes Welker so effective on short routes everywhere else on the field except inside the fifteen yard line. Slants cease to exist for him there, everything is a drag route.
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Or an out. I agree that he's quick enough everywhere else and should be able to do the same in close.

Maybe they think the quick slant is too easy to defend with no threat of the deep ball and the Dline's ability to get their hands on it.
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Once you get near the goal the field to work with has shrunk. To many bodies bunched up and things have to move quickly as plays don't have "time to develop". I disagree with the assessment of Crumpler. He caught 2 passes a game for a team that never threw it. He can still catch. Not sure about his YAC but he's a load to bring down. Also he was a main reason that Johnson gained 2000. I think he will help the pass blocking AND the running game a lot. Baker was a waste...that's why he's gone. Just my opinion.

I REALLY like Graham!!! We need to make sure we get him even if we have to move up ahead of Atlanta etc. And I don't think nor want Tebow. Again just my opinion. Thanks
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