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Old 02-08-2009, 11:12 PM    (permalink
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Where does he end up?

I'm curious about this because I see everyone fawning over Cassell and I'm wondering if he could end up on a team with playoff aspirations missing a QB.

Probably need a solid OL and a decent run game.

Minnesota? Detroit? KC?
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I actually think he'd do quite well in Minnesota.
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He needs time to be anywhere near half decent so he should talk to Minny, he's a solid starter in the NFL IMHO but if you start getting pressure on him with that slow ass wind-up it's tee up time...But he looked good in spot duty for Pitt.
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He needs time to be anywhere near half decent so he should talk to Minny, he's a solid starter in the NFL IMHO but if you start getting pressure on him with that slow ass wind-up it's tee up time...But he looked good in spot duty for Pitt.
He's got awesome power/accuracy, but.. I wish I could see him put a little touch.

I just don't know if he's the primary FA QB or where he'd fit.
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Jets seem like a good option. Chicago was also a rumor for a while.
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Ummm, he's a backup for life now. He will never ever be looked at to lead a franchise ever again. Sorry to the Leftwich and Marshall fans out there, but he had his chance with a pretty decent team and he threw it away by never getting in shape, by never putting in the time and effort it takes to be a great QB. He's a backup lifer.
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Ummm, he's a backup for life now. He will never ever be looked at to lead a franchise ever again. Sorry to the Leftwich and Marshall fans out there, but he had his chance with a pretty decent team and he threw it away by never getting in shape, by never putting in the time and effort it takes to be a great QB. He's a backup lifer.
Meh...sure nobody is going to just hand him a job going into training camp. But I expect him to get a few offers to compete with a young guy in camp. Everyone knows who washed up Daunte Culpepper has been for the last few seasons and he started five games for Detroit this year. He could very well choose to come back to Pittsburgh, though. It's a good situation for him.
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Vikings...

Great offensive line, great running game and they have the speed at wide receiver so Leftwich can throw those bombs. The Vikings should definitely give him a look this off-season.
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Ummm, he's a backup for life now. He will never ever be looked at to lead a franchise ever again. Sorry to the Leftwich and Marshall fans out there, but he had his chance with a pretty decent team and he threw it away by never getting in shape, by never putting in the time and effort it takes to be a great QB. He's a backup lifer.
I don't know... Seeing the FA pool of QB's he's got to be one of the best options.

Kurt Warner, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Matt Cassel, UFA, New England Patriots
Kerry Collins, UFA, Tennessee Titans
Jeff Garcia, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rex Grossman, UFA, Chicago Bears
Kyle Boller, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Charlie Batch, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
David Carr, UFA, N.Y. Giants Ryan Fitzpatrick, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals
Byron Leftwich, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
J.P. Losman, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Luke McCown, UFA, Tampa Bay Bucs
Dan Orlovsky, UFA, Detroit
J.T. O'Sullivan San Francisco 49ers
Patrick Ramsey, UFA, Denver Broncos


Thats your QB Free Agency group.

Batch will likely be back in Pittsburgh.

Cassell will be the Hot guy..

Leftwich, Losman and Garcia are the next tier.

With only 2 "Top" QB's coming out in Stafford/Sanchez.. I can definitely see Leftwich being given a shot in some camp to start.
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No the Vikings are better off taking Josh Freeman with their 1rst round pick and developing him while Gus Ferotte gets killed for a few games. You guys need a long term answer, not a washed up bust. You guys have a unbelievable group of young talented building blocks, don't throw that away relying on Leftwich.
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Great offensive line, great running game and they have the speed at wide receiver so Leftwich can throw those bombs. The Vikings should definitely give him a look this off-season.
I agree. At this point he's better than any other option they have right now. He was an adequate starter in Jacksonville just barely above the level of game manager. He'd be a pretty good fit in Minnesota I think with an entire offseason of training to get used to the scheme and personnel. Might as well give it a shot.
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I don't know... Seeing the FA pool of QB's he's got to be one of the best options.

Kurt Warner, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Matt Cassel, UFA, New England Patriots
Kerry Collins, UFA, Tennessee Titans
Jeff Garcia, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Rex Grossman, UFA, Chicago Bears
Kyle Boller, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Charlie Batch, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
David Carr, UFA, N.Y. Giants Ryan Fitzpatrick, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals
Byron Leftwich, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
J.P. Losman, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Luke McCown, UFA, Tampa Bay Bucs
Dan Orlovsky, UFA, Detroit
J.T. O'Sullivan San Francisco 49ers
Patrick Ramsey, UFA, Denver Broncos


Thats your QB Free Agency group.

Batch will likely be back in Pittsburgh.

Cassell will be the Hot guy..

Leftwich, Losman and Garcia are the next tier.

With only 2 "Top" QB's coming out in Stafford/Sanchez.. I can definitely see Leftwich being given a shot in some camp to start.
Cassell got franchised, didn't he. So he's out of the mix. I thin these teams need to stay away from FA QB's. So very few times do they actually pane out and make significant impacts and take control of their franchise. The teams desperate for a QB need to draft one of the big 2 this year or take a chance on Josh Freeman or Nate Davis. They are better opotions then Leftwich.
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Wouldn't be shocked if he's brought in to compete in Tennessee with Simms and Collins both free agents. They brought him for a workout around the same time they signed Simms to "update their records" and apparently he did alright.

I understand why he wasn't extended in Jacksonville as he just wasn't living up to his draft placement but I'm surprised he hasn't been given that much of a shot elsewhere since. It's not like he was horrible, just nothing special.
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St. Louis...compete with Bulger.


I think he's strive in our newer offense...You have Jackson, McMichael and he could get it down deep to Avery, and Burton, and quick 5 - 10yd strikes with Holt.
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I guess I would be fine with Leftwich. The only thing that really concerns me is his mobility and his time to throw the ball. I know both have been questioned in the past. Right now If i had to pick a QB from the FA it would be Garcia. He knows the system and has helped out teams that he went too. Also from living near the Buffalo area and being the the non buffalo bills fan in my family I do not want JP Losman for many reasons.
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I think he's strive in our newer offense...You have Jackson, McMichael and he could get it down deep to Avery, and Burton, and quick 5 - 10yd strikes with Holt.
With the windup and less mobility than Bulger, he'd get killed behind that St.Louis offensive line.
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I will echo everyone on here and say Minnesota would be the best place for him.
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Minny is basically the best place for any QB if we're only talking about team's that have a high need for QB.

Great Offensive Line - check
A top tier RB - check
Above average to good receivers - check


I'm not disagreeing with anyone, because it is the best place for Leftwhich. But that's not really saying much.
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Also the QB competition in Minnesota is piss poor at the moment
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No the Vikings are better off taking Josh Freeman with their 1rst round pick and developing him while Gus Ferotte gets killed for a few games. You guys need a long term answer, not a washed up bust. You guys have a unbelievable group of young talented building blocks, don't throw that away relying on Leftwich.
You don't think the Vikings would be better off taking Byron Leftwich to be the guy now while they train a guy?

Leftwich was drafted in what.. 2003? I'd hardly say he's washed up.
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Cassell got franchised, didn't he. So he's out of the mix. I thin these teams need to stay away from FA QB's. So very few times do they actually pane out and make significant impacts and take control of their franchise. The teams desperate for a QB need to draft one of the big 2 this year or take a chance on Josh Freeman or Nate Davis. They are better opotions then Leftwich.
Drafting a QB is not a better option for teams built to "Win now" especially with Josh Freeman who needs atleast a year under a vet's tutelage and Nate Davis who also should've left his senior year.
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I think he could wind up with the Jets too if Favre retires. Sign Leftwich and maybe draft a QB in the mid rounds. Start Leftwich, and let Clemens, Ratliff, and the rookie compete to be the #2/QB of the future.

I think next season, the Vikings will have one of either Leftwich, Derek Anderson, or Sanchez as their starter.
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No the Vikings are better off taking Josh Freeman with their 1rst round pick and developing him while Gus Ferotte gets killed for a few games. You guys need a long term answer, not a washed up bust. You guys have a unbelievable group of young talented building blocks, don't throw that away relying on Leftwich.
I shun you for saying that Minnesota takes Josh Freeman rather than picking up a FA QB. *Slaps in face* Minnesota already has a toolsy QB and the Vikings need to get a qaurterback and make a run at the super bowl now!
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JP Losman will end up in Minnesota and be EPIC. :D
Leftwhich will end up in NY as a Jet.
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