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Old 02-09-2009, 02:08 AM    (permalink
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I understand where they are coming from and why they may want to move on without him.

But why release the guy? You can't get ANYTHING back in a trade? Essentially it does the same thing to your cap room (right?) + you get rid of him + you get a draft pick to show for it.

I don't get it. Why for some players it's cut them or nothing? You're telling me no team would give up a 3rd or 4th round pick for Owens?

I mean the fact that they let this stuff leak to the media doesn't help in terms of negotiations if they were to pursue a trade... I just don't get it.
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Who would trade for a 35 year old guy with diminishing ball skills that has proven to be a locker room cancer? If you can't make it in Dallas as a star then where can you make it?
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It's unlikely that anybody wants to pick up the rest of Owen's contract. He's past his prime and likely only going to be less effective with each coming season. At his age many player's effectiveness can go downhill real fast.
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I seriously doubt anyone would give up anything for him.
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TO has trade value, it's just very low. You've got to remember Moss was only worth a 4th round pick at the age of 30 -- Now what do you think T.O. is worth at the age of 35? lol.

Edit: I should clarify: I know Moss was worth more than a 4th, and the raiders got swindled. But you understand what I am saying :P
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I understand where they are coming from and why they may want to move on without him.

But why release the guy? You can't get ANYTHING back in a trade? Essentially it does the same thing to your cap room (right?) + you get rid of him + you get a draft pick to show for it.

I don't get it. Why for some players it's cut them or nothing? You're telling me no team would give up a 3rd or 4th round pick for Owens?

I mean the fact that they let this stuff leak to the media doesn't help in terms of negotiations if they were to pursue a trade... I just don't get it.
This is something the Eagles tried when he left them. Its a little different situation, but teams will not trade for a guy when they could just sign him, and not give up the picks.
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The popular thing to say is..."addition by subtraction"...there are a lot of people out there that think some relationships are beyond repair and you just cant win a championship with T.O.

Having T.O. and Roy together looks great on paper but, in reality it may not be all it was cracked up to be. Too many stars, too many bad attitudes, it doesnt bode well and now what do we have? A split locker room and a divided group of figure heads who run the team behind the scenes. JJ may have screwed this team and some think, the cutting of T.O. would be a step in the right direction at righting this sinking ship known as the Dallas Cowboys.
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Can you imagine the drama if it came out that Owens was on the trade block? ESPN would jizz in their pants over that.
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The problem in Dallas is not TO. It's just too easy to place the blame on him is all and the media feeds it into everyone's brains.

If Dallas just executed better, they'd have had a better season. ...eh, playcalling sucked too.
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I wonder if the skins sign him then! Make it 3/4 NFC East teams then! lol. That would be kind of funny though.
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Nobody would give up anything for TO, maybe if he was still on his last year of his deal but not with that new contract.


I certainly don't put the blame on him but we have showed how important team chemistry is and it's just not going to happen with TO here, he will be holding interviews about getting the ball if he doesn't get a million targets a game, just gets old for a QB and offensive coordinator...Too many egos, I just don't see it working.
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Wanna know where the chemistry is really messed up? Th OL. One very weak link at LG and it affected everything.
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Wanna know where the chemistry is really messed up? Th OL. One very weak link at LG and it affected everything.
That and the fact that the QB doesn't want to do what the coach says, the team was divided as to who should be the backup QB, a receiver thinking his QB and tight end are plotting against him.
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The chemistry on the entrie team was messed up, whether it was T.O.'s fault or not.
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And that is why I celebrated the day they hired wade to replace the tuna.
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Garrett was a worse hire than Wade.
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I'm getting the feeling from some of the Cowboys fans on here that they aren't expecting much next season from the Cowboys, or at least if they do accomplish something, it will be despite a lot fo these factors...
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A lot of us expect much of the same...primary reason I think we'll see the same problems is because, Garrett is still around. He doesnt have a clue and much of the offensive unit has no faith in him as playcaller. Hard to go a day without some one new on the team calling Garrett out this off-season.
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TO would net nothing in a trade. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he never played again, I can only see the most desparate of desparate teams offering him at this point.
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A lot of us expect much of the same...primary reason I think we'll see the same problems is because, Garrett is still around. He doesnt have a clue and much of the offensive unit has no faith in him as playcaller. Hard to go a day without some one new on the team calling Garrett out this off-season.
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Lets see the Jets go after him. Rex Ryan will put him in place. haha

seriously kidding, I don't want him on the Jets. I would wish him to go to the Pats but Belichek will figure out a way to turn him good. bastard
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What's the beef with JG? Why don't you like him?
He's a horrible play caller that builds no kind of rhythm or balance.
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What's the beef with JG? Why don't you like him?
He doesnt know how to ultize the weapons he has and he has over simplified his offense so much that opposing teams are calling out our plays as soon as we get out of the huddle. Ray Lewis, Dick Lebeau, Deshea Townsend among others. Have all had comments about knowing what play Garrett was going to call next, how we have the most predictable offense in the league, the most redundant playcalling....etc. Garrett's playbook is shallow and his playcalling is stale. He doesnt know anything about playcalling. He doesnt know how to establish rhythm, with a rhythm Qb no less and when we do find something, he always finds a way to mess that up.

He was handed the job and was not ready for it...he had great success for about 12 or so games in his first year here but, as soon as teams caught on to what he was doing, it has been a constant battle to maintain a consistantly good offense with him in charge. He is a major problem and I'd go as far as saying, the biggest problem this team has right now. Most of us were praying someone would be stupid enough to take him off of our hands...then this whole Reeves thing came up and gave us a little hope. Considering Reeves would have been mentoring Garrett and reportedly would have had a major role in coaching the offense....but, JJ went and messed that up...so, now we're stuck with the uselss Garrett trying to figure things out on his own, all over again. blah.
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He's a horrible play caller that builds no kind of rhythm or balance.
...and if you ask Ray Lewis... His offense is one of the most simplistic in the entire league. Garrett is such a bad OC... and would be worse as a HC, because he'd still want to call the offense.

The reason why we almost hired Dan Reeves was to mainly consult Garrett on how to be a better OC.
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