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If Rams cut Pace and Holt, they go from having 14 million to spend to having 28 million to spend.
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With the Cowboys only having $10m in cap room, no way in hell they release T.O. and take an $8m cap hit. Even releasing Williams and Ellis, DAL still wont have enough to sign Ware to an extension as well as their draft picks.
Brad Johnson, Kyle Kosier, Anthony Henry, Roy Williams, and Greg Ellis are all guys that most likely won't be in Dallas next year.

That move alone creates about 15 million dollars of cap room.
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With the Cowboys only having $10m in cap room, no way in hell they release T.O. and take an $8m cap hit. Even releasing Williams and Ellis, DAL still wont have enough to sign Ware to an extension as well as their draft picks.
TO is gonna count against the cap anyway regardless, he's not factored into the remaining money we have left:


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Last June, the Cowboys paid Owens a $12.9 million signing bonus as part of a four-year, $36 million contract. Should the Cowboys cut Owens, he would count $680,000 more against the '09 cap than the $8.99 million he is scheduled to count if he stays. And because this is the last capped season, the Cowboys cannot spread out the hit over two seasons like teams were able to do previously.

The question the Cowboys must answer: Would you rather have T.O. count $8.99 million against the cap to play for the Cowboys next season or an extra $680,000 to go away?
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/ar...terrell-owens/


That's also assuming we aren't going to cut a large number of pricey veterans like most teams do..I also think it's cute when people say "there is no way they will be able to afford Ware", yea ok Ware isn't going anywhere, and people should realize that Jerry isn't that naive to let that come close to happening.
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Even if the Cowboys can't afford Ware now, they'll just franchise him until they do work out a deal.
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Dallas isn't doing too bad right now considering were going to let Canty walk, restructure Roy Williams(SS) contract or release him outright, and Greg Ellis maybe...This is good news for re-signing Miles Austin who at this point is all I'm concerned about.
It's not all that good actually...when Ware will get 13 per. Even when you cut some of the fat and get some more room, we're not in the best of shape. We wont exactly be in cap hell but, we wont have a real lot of room to work.
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It's not all that good actually...when Ware will get 13 per. Even when you cut some of the fat and get some more room, we're not in the best of shape. We wont exactly be in cap hell but, we wont have a real a lot of room to work.
But most of the big guns on your team has been locked up so it's not too bad.
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But most of the big guns on your team has been locked up so it's not too bad.
Yeah, that's true but, a lot of our fans are expecting us to make big splashes via FA and it doesnt look all that possible. Hell, Canty probably wont even be back because, he's too pricy.
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It's not all that good actually...when Ware will get 13 per. Even when you cut some of the fat and get some more room, we're not in the best of shape. We wont exactly be in cap hell but, we wont have a real lot of room to work.
His salary will be around that high, but i don't think the cap number will be anywhere close. Flozell is making about 14 million a year and his cap number is about 10 less than that.
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His salary will be around that high, but i don't think the cap number will be anywhere close. Flozell is making about 14 million a year and his cap number is about 10 less than that.
Yes...early in his contract but, that increases significantly every year. Stephen Jones manipulates the cap and frees up cap room initially but, all of our players have heavily backloaded contracts. Romo and Davis were making the league minimum last year to free up cap...you can only trick the cap so many times before it starts to kill you. There's a reason JJ has said this should be a very quiet off-season. He's not putting all of his eggs in one basket. You have to act as though there will be a salary cap in 2010 still.

Also, Kosier and Henry probably arent going anywhere.
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Eagles are in really good shape headed into the off-season, 25,000,000 in cap space, 2 first round picks, 10 picks total.
Yeah thats actually very impressive. Moreso if you consider they just went to the NFCCG. They could be a force to deal with this upcoming year (and more if they draft well).
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Yeah thats actually very impressive. Moreso if you consider they just went to the NFCCG. They could be a force to deal with this upcoming year (and more if they draft well).
Bleh. Maybe if they weren't chicken **** and took chances in FA more than once every five years, they might win a SB. Like I said earlier, they MIGHT use half of it.
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Bleh. Maybe if they weren't chicken **** and took chances in FA more than once every five years, they might win a SB. Like I said earlier, they MIGHT use half of it.
Big FA accusations are overrated. Yes there are a couple that work (drew brees), but there are many disappointing players and FAs that can possibly ruin team chemistry. Its always best to build through the draft and bring in low - mid level FAs in my opinion. If you are a few pieces away from the SB and have a team that has a closing window of opportunity, then it makes sense. Maybe you could classify the Eagles in that category, I don't know.
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Big FA accusations are overrated. Yes there are a couple that work (drew brees), but there are many disappointing players and FAs that can possibly ruin team chemistry. Its always best to build through the draft and bring in low - mid level FAs in my opinion. If you are a few pieces away from the SB and have a team that has a closing window of opportunity, then it makes sense. Maybe you could classify the Eagles in that category, I don't know.
1. Acquisitions, not accusations.
2. The Eagles ARE a team that has a closing window of opportunity and they are a few pieces away.
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2. The Eagles ARE a team that has a closing window of opportunity and they are a few pieces away.
oh ****. lol at accusations.

And yeah, I guess you are right. I just don't think they would suffer that much if they didn't bring anyone big in because they have a really good defense that is fairly young. They have been a good team year in and year out due to good drafting and coaching (i know reid sucks at times, but theres a reason eagles have made 5 NFCCGs and are always playoff contenders. they probably have the best record in the NFC over the past 7-9 years). Just my $.02
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oh ****. lol at accusations.

And yeah, I guess you are right. I just don't think they would suffer that much if they didn't bring anyone big in because they have a really good defense that is fairly young. They have been a good team year in and year out due to good drafting and coaching (i know reid sucks at times, but theres a reason eagles have made 5 NFCCGs and are always playoff contenders. they probably have the best record in the NFC over the past 7-9 years). Just my $.02
I don't give a **** about NFCCG, NFC East titles, or anything short of Super Bowl wins. "2 is not a winner and 3 nobody remembers". I'm not asking for major acquisitions on the defense. A nickel corner if Joselio Hanson walks is about it. The offense has a lot of questions. Two ancient offensive tackles. No #1 receiver. Questions at tight end. No power back.
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The Eagles signed Asante Samuel last offseason to huge money, because it was a perfect fit for them: he was young enough (27) to invest in, fit their team, and is a playmaker. He's worth it so far.

They also signed Chris Clemons too, I don't know if they used him enough.

Houshmandzadeh could be a perfect complement to DeSean Jackson and Kevin Curtis. However he'll be 32 years old this September, that could seriously damper the Eagles' interest in him.
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Honestly, the salary cap now is ridiculous. Look how many teams are in "good shape" to sign people. Broncos have $30-40 mil to spend, but guess what, nearly half the league has at least $15 mil to spend it seems. And besides, signing big name free agents doesn't always work out well. How much money did the Jets throw out there last year only to miss the playoffs?
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They also signed Chris Clemons too, I don't know if they used him enough.
Clemons missed a big chunk of training camp because he was sick. That explains why we didn't see him until the end of the year. Mastering the Jim Johnson playbook is no easy fit.

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Houshmandzadeh could be a perfect complement to DeSean Jackson and Kevin Curtis. However he'll be 32 years old this September, that could seriously damper the Eagles' interest in him.
Cough cough Anquan Boldin cough cough.
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Clemons missed a big chunk of training camp because he was sick. That explains why we didn't see him until the end of the year. Mastering the Jim Johnson playbook is no easy fit.



Cough cough Anquan Boldin cough cough.
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Clemons missed a big chunk of training camp because he was sick. That explains why we didn't see him until the end of the year. Mastering the Jim Johnson playbook is no easy fit.
That's what puzzles me: what is there to master? In my book there shouldn't be a single third down, where it's four-plus yards to go, that Clemons isn't on the field looking to wreck havoc - especially on the quarterback.

And other than that, he needs to play well on special teams.

If anything, the DL coach and the ST coach should be much more important/useful for his role with the Eagles than Johnson, I would think. But that isn't worth anything, so who knows.

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Q would beast it in Philly. Remember when they had TO? Except now it would be without the psychosis.

Still, I have a hard time thinking the Cards would trade him in conference. I think Miami might be in play because Parcells wants a big #1 for his team, and I haven't mentioned this gem of an idea before, but I think Buffalo could potentially be in play.
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No! They already have Lee Evans. A WR starved team like the Titans needs him!
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Must be a random coincidence they made it to the SB that year. That's gotta be Jeffrey Lurie and Joe Banner's way of thinking.
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