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Old 02-18-2009, 10:02 AM    (permalink
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how about u make an argument why he isnt a #1
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:16 AM    (permalink
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how about u make an argument why he isnt a #1
I wouldn't consider him a number one WR for a few reasons and also for a few different reason I would consider him a number one. I think it all depends on who you think is a number one and how you define it. Numbers don't define it to me, if they did then Wes Welker would be a WR you would build an offense around. I think the type of WR you are, the numbers, and the attention the defense pays to you all contribute in their own way in determining if a WR is a number one or not.

If you look at the numbers then you could easily say he is a nubmer one. Looking at T24L type stats like Yards after catch, touchdowns %, 1st downs caught, Yards after contact etc etc can prove that TJ is a number one. His nubmers are great. But is he a game changer, do defenses adjust their plan in accordance to TJ. Maybe, maybe not.

I don't see TJ as a true number one but has the numbers to be considered one for sure.
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The Wes Welker comparison is exactly where I'm going, too. Housh is bigger & stronger, but I still see him as a possession guy who lacks the speed to be a true game breaker. His numbers are fantastic, but that is b/c he has a talent like CJ to take all the extra attention while he does the dirty work underneath.

I don't know that there is any true way to argue his #1 vs. #2 (or anyone else for that matter) except to say I don't think he would be nearly as successful as the #1 threat. Double cover TJ and I'm guessing he can be held to zero catches by a good secondary.
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^ Being the best on the team does NOT make him a #1 guy worthy of #1 WR pay.

Don't believe me? Ask Donovan McNabb.
Exactly. He is best suited for being the number 2 guy.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:20 AM    (permalink
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idk, he basically was the #1 this year, i mean seriously what did Chad Ocho Cinco do this year
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:22 AM    (permalink
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The Wes Welker comparison is exactly where I'm going, too. Housh is bigger & stronger, but I still see him as a possession guy who lacks the speed to be a true game breaker. His numbers are fantastic, but that is b/c he has a talent like CJ to take all the extra attention while he does the dirty work underneath.

I don't know that there is any true way to argue his #1 vs. #2 (or anyone else for that matter) except to say I don't think he would be nearly as successful as the #1 threat. Double cover TJ and I'm guessing he can be held to zero catches by a good secondary.
That's what I was going for. He isn't the kind of player to demand double coverage. I'm not saying he isn't very good but he isn't the gamebreaker. He is more effective short, to medium range (redzone ability is awesome) but he really doesn't have much in big play threats. He might have that trick up his sleeve but I've never seen it.
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^ Being the best on the team does NOT make him a #1 guy worthy of #1 WR pay.

Don't believe me? Ask Donovan McNabb.
Maybe not worthy, but it does make the team willing to pay him like it. Bernard Berrian got $7.25 million a year last offseason. TJ will get at least that.
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^ That I can agree with, but I have they feeling that team will be disappointed in the result.


I hope he proves me wrong. I like TJ.
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Maybe not worthy, but it does make the team willing to pay him like it. Bernard Berrian got $7.25 million a year last offseason. TJ will get at least that.
Berrian is also four years younger than Houshmadzadeh and is a proven deep threat in this league.
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Berrian is also four years younger than Houshmadzadeh and is a proven deep threat in this league.
Housh's deep route is severely underrated because we don't utilize it very often. I'm not saying his deep routes are great, but above average for sure.

It seems like whenever a guy has great hands people immediately assume he has terrible legs.
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With him along side Reggie I think he would continue to produce!!!
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