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There are a number of teams making significant cuts this week:

Tampa Bay (Brooks, Dunn, Hilliard, June, Galloway):
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3933807

Indianapolis (Harrison):
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3931695

Carolina (Hackett, Goings, Bridges):
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3933703

Kansas City (Edwards, Surtain, Huard):
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3931702

Denver (Robertson, Bly, Winborn, Manuel, Jackson, Koutelvides, Engelberger)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3914567

New York Jets (Coles)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3934737

And I'm sure I missed a few others. Anyone you guys think would be a good fit for Lions. I don't see any major hole-fillers here...mostly retreads and guys 1 year from retirement. Originally I liked Brooks, but then I remembered he definitely showed his age last year.

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We need serious help at CB ... Dre Bly anyone? ;o) (kidding!)

Not sure with those cast offs if any would fit but I do know this means Pioli and the crew in Kansas City have to be eyeing a QB with that #3 spot (dumping Huard) ... wouldn't it be cool if it were Stafford and the Lions could swap? (Selling them up until the clock starts that they want him as well of course)
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I wouldn't mind Darrell Jackson as a possible #2 receiver, we're going to need one
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We're not resigning Bryant Johnson, he'd be a nice WR for you guys.
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We need serious help at CB ... Dre Bly anyone? ;o) (kidding!)

Not sure with those cast offs if any would fit but I do know this means Pioli and the crew in Kansas City have to be eyeing a QB with that #3 spot (dumping Huard) ... wouldn't it be cool if it were Stafford and the Lions could swap? (Selling them up until the clock starts that they want him as well of course)
the situation you propose would be nice, however I believe that the Lions will have who they want signed before the draft, they would be foolish not to.
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After seeing all the cuts Tampa Bay made today, I bet Marinelli is on suicide watch. They would be the answer. If we could just have those guys on the team, we would be in the Playoffs.
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The Jets let go ofLaveranues Coles, who could provide a decent #2 receiver for you guys after all of the Lions releases. Good luck getting him to accept a reasonable salary though.

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After seeing all the cuts Tampa Bay made today, I bet Marinelli is on suicide watch. They would be the answer. If we could just have those guys on the team, we would be in the Playoffs.
Either that or he is humping Jerry Angelo's leg right now requested Derrick Brooks.

Brooks - Urlacher - Briggs. That would have been scary 3 years ago.

I did think about that IMMEDIATELY when I saw these tampa guys get cut... poor Rod. He could have gotten the whole gang back together for a NFC North reunion. Just a year too late.
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I really want him, but no way he is the type of WR that is going to come to this team.
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You guys see Grossman wants to go to Detroit? Here's our chance for a big time franchise QB lol
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If that happens I will not watch football until Grossman is off the team.
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If that happens I will not watch football until Grossman is off the team.
The sad thing is though that Grossman is probably better then Culpepper.
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Wow....
Well he would be a QB who has a great arm and makes questionable decisions.

I'm really struggling with this one: If it comes down to it, Culpepper or Grossman. Which is the lesser of two evils?
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The sad thing is though that Grossman is probably better then Culpepper.
Ha! Read my mind... its a tough choice. Without being able to run, Culpepper really only has his size as an advantage over Grossman. Both throw into coverage, and both fumble like a 2008 U of M QB. I think I might go Culpepper though.
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The sad thing is though that Grossman is probably better then Culpepper.
If they go with Culpepper and Grossman and ignore QB then I will be very upset.

If its Culpepper or Grossman, depends on the price but Culpepper does know Linehans offense. Grossman would be for mutliple years though. Probably 2-3. Actually, multipe years is actually a bad thing for both these QBs to be on your roster.
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If they go with Culpepper and Grossman and ignore QB then I will be very upset.

If its Culpepper or Grossman, depends on the price but Culpepper does know Linehans offense. Grossman would be for mutliple years though. Probably 2-3. Actually, multipe years is actually a bad thing for both these QBs to be on your roster.
I can definitely agree with your first comment.

Grossman had a 1-year deal last year to stay with the Bears and didnt really improve his stock. I dont think it would take much to bring him here. I could see 2 years, but I dont think it would require more and depending on the market it could be 1 year.

But again,... lets hope it doesn't come to Sexy Rexy.
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I agree. My ideal Qbs for next year would have been Orlovsky-Stanton-Stafford.
Orlovsky and Stanton battle for the starting job. That goes on for about 10 games or so and then go you with Stafford.

Culpepper does have immense immense potential though. If he is ever able to make it back to even half the player he was we could have a damn good quarterback. If I was going choose a breakout player next year my dark horse would be Culpepper.
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I agree. My ideal Qbs for next year would have been Orlovsky-Stanton-Stafford.
Orlovsky and Stanton battle for the starting job. That goes on for about 10 games or so and then go you with Stafford.

Culpepper does have immense immense potential though. If he is ever able to make it back to even half the player he was we could have a damn good quarterback. If I was going choose a breakout player next year my dark horse would be Culpepper.
my problem with Orl-Stan-Staff is that there is really no veteran and two rookies. It looks like some QB staff I would create in Madden. Ideally I think it would be good to get one vet instead of either Orlovsky or Stanton... someone we could project holding down the fort for a full season. I'd rather see Culpepper or some vet. I would love to have Leftwich if they could sign him and if he could stay healthy: two unlikely ifs.
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my problem with Orl-Stan-Staff is that there is really no veteran and two rookies. It looks like some QB staff I would create in Madden. Ideally I think it would be good to get one vet instead of either Orlovsky or Stanton... someone we could project holding down the fort for a full season. I'd rather see Culpepper or some vet. I would love to have Leftwich if they could sign him and if he could stay healthy: two unlikely ifs.
But this is Orlovskys what now fourth or fifth year in the league? He was much more promising in his starts. Stanton is now in his third year I know. Pull the leashes off these guys.
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So if we don't get Haynesworth, who else do you guys like at DT? I'm thinking Rocky Bernard might be the next best.
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I wouldn't mind a year of Grady Jackson.
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Thats the other guy I thought of too, but he has a lot of miles on that belly. He's 36 now.
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Thats the other guy I thought of too, but he has a lot of miles on that belly. He's 36 now.
Yeah definitely not the ideal pick up, but could be a nice boost to our run defense in the short tern.
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DT, I think we should look at Ron Brace. I'd also look at Tank Johnson and if healthy Marcus Tubbs as a darkhorse. Anything is better than Chuck Darby.
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DT, I think we should look at Ron Brace. I'd also look at Tank Johnson and if healthy Marcus Tubbs as a darkhorse. Anything is better than Chuck Darby.
Ron Brace is one of my favorite prospects in this draft and would have little objection of taking him at 33. Maybe move down a couple slots because every year potential first rounders fall to the top of the second. But if you draft a corner at 20 and then a stud NT like Brace at 33 I think that'd be a great start. Chuck Darby was a major disappointment.

What Martz/Marinelli cast-offs were actually good pick ups? Shaun McDonald, Mike Furrey and ....?

What a joke was that Pearson signing, my god. Should have released him right after that domestic dispute mess.
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