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Old 02-26-2009, 04:29 PM    (permalink
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I swear this is the dumbest argument. I mean you do not have to like him but **** you are watching him play a sport and there are plenty of people and I am sure some of them are on your team that fight dogs and do all that ****. They just haven't got caught. Dog fighting happens a lot in ghetto ass places and a lot of players are ghetto ass people. No one is saying they love him as a person just like watching him play the damn game.
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How can you just turn a blind eye to what Vick has done? Just imagine him doing that to your dog. Would you still love him?
I do not love him. Does that mean i cant enjoy football?
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:40 PM    (permalink
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I swear this is the dumbest argument. I mean you do not have to like him but **** you are watching him play a sport and there are plenty of people and I am sure some of them are on your team that fight dogs and do all that ****. They just haven't got caught. Dog fighting happens a lot in ghetto ass places and a lot of players are ghetto ass people. No one is saying they love him as a person just like watching him play the damn game.
I'm sure it does happen and those people need to be punished. You can't give them a free pass because they play football. If Drew Brees was caught killing dogs, I would hope the Saints release him immediately. I mean, I love my wife but if she told me she killed a dog for fun a long time ago, I would file for divorce. Just because we don't know, doesn't make it right.
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I do not love him. Does that mean i cant enjoy football?
Fine. Would you enjoy watching Vick play on your favorite football if he killed your dog for fun?
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:44 PM    (permalink
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Fine. Would you enjoy watching Vick play on your favorite football if he killed your dog for fun?
id enjoy the football. Its not like he went around and killed all sorts of dogs. U guys dont dislike him because he killed ur dogs.
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Fine. Would you enjoy watching Vick play on your favorite football if he killed your dog for fun?
His property vs. my property. Totally different.
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Fine. Would you enjoy watching Vick play on your favorite football if he killed your dog for fun?
You would divorce your wife for making a stupid mistake or for being a douche in her past?? You are ******* crazy

He did not kill no ones dogs. He killed his own dogs. Dogs that would of been killed if they were in the pound because they were trained to fight.
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id enjoy the football.
This is why I won't be able to get through to you and arguing any further would be pointless. You would still cheer for a guy that killed your pet for fun. All I have to say is wow
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You would divorce your wife for making a stupid mistake or for being a douche in her past?? You are ******* crazy

He did not kill no ones dogs. He killed his own dogs. Dogs that would of been killed if they were in the pound because they were trained to fight.
He found stray dogs off the street and forced them to fight. Not all of the dogs wanted to fight but they made them away way. A lot of dogs get out of fences, run out of the house when someone opens the door, etc. I'm sure that some of those dogs were former pets of people who would never dream of doing what was done to them.
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This is why I won't be able to get through to you and arguing any further would be pointless. You would still cheer for a guy that killed your pet for fun. All I have to say is wow
HE DIDNT KILL MY ******* PET. obviously i dont love the man. i dont appreciate what he did. But why would i ******* stop watching football because of that?
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This is why I won't be able to get through to you and arguing any further would be pointless. You would still cheer for a guy that killed your pet for fun. All I have to say is wow
Like someone has said before, its not my actual pet. It is his pet. Sure he has done a terrible thing, but I am positive there are worse things that players have done that is unknown.
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This is why I won't be able to get through to you and arguing any further would be pointless. You would still cheer for a guy that killed your pet for fun. All I have to say is wow
That is the worst argument ever... He didn't kill my dog, nor anyone elses. He killed his own dogs. He fought dogs, do you think **** fighting is despicable, would you not watch football if you found out someone was involved in cockfighting? What about bullfighting? I don't believe you can condemn someone for doing something that is accepted in their culture. He served his time, because it was against the law. But that doesn't make it universally wrong. Morals are not black and white. You have to look at peoples actions in the culture they are in. In the ghetto culture, dogfighting is not wrong. That is the culture he grew up in.
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As I said before, once he serves his sentence he is even in my eyes. Yes, I will still look down on what he did, but I really hope I get to see him play again.
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He took those dogs with the purpose of killing them. They could have went to a good home. And I would much rather them die by a shot at the pound (which i think is horrible) than killed in the way in which were by the hands of Vick.

And I don't think the fighting of any kind of animal is right.
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He took those dogs with the purpose of killing them. They could have went to a good home. And I would much rather them die by a shot at the pound (which i think is horrible) than killed in the way in which were by the hands of Vick.

And I don't think the fighting of any kind of animal is right.
yea thats the think. YOU dont think so. its ur moral way. there is no reason for people to not enjoy football
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Cant wait for Vick to get back out on the field. Hope he gets a chance to make a difference for a team
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And he served his time....soooooo whats the argument about?
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As I said before, once he serves his sentence he is even in my eyes. Yes, I will still look down on what he did, but I really hope I get to see him play again.
I guess it's different for me. I love my dogs like they were my own children, I spend hours a day playing with them and taking care of them. And I wish I could take stray dogs in but I can't afford the vets bills, so I'll keep them until I find someone that wants it, keep it clean and fed.

I want every one of them to have a good life and a guy like Vick goes and try to kills thousands for his enjoyment. What a sick asshole
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I guess it's different for me. I love my dogs like they were my own children, I spend hours a day playing with them and taking care of them. And I wish I could take stray dogs in but I can't afford the vets bills, so I'll keep them until I find someone that wants it, keep it clean and fed.

I want every one of them to have a good life and a guy like Vick goes and try to kills thousands for his enjoyment. What a sick asshole
Ok you love your dogs...and as stated he didn't kill your dogs...just don't let him pet sit your animals and its all going to be ok.
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I guess it's different for me. I love my dogs like they were my own children, I spend hours a day playing with them and taking care of them. And I wish I could take stray dogs in but I can't afford the vets bills, so I'll keep them until I find someone that wants it, keep it clean and fed.

I want every one of them to have a good life and a guy like Vick goes and try to kills thousands for his enjoyment. What a sick asshole
I'm guessing you believe Vick deserves life in prison for what he did? That obviously is the difference in opinions, it seems.

You can argue how severe the punishment should be all day long. I'm just saying, once his sentence is over, his punishment should be over. That's the whole point of sentencing.
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I guess it's different for me. I love my dogs like they were my own children, I spend hours a day playing with them and taking care of them. And I wish I could take stray dogs in but I can't afford the vets bills, so I'll keep them until I find someone that wants it, keep it clean and fed.

I want every one of them to have a good life and a guy like Vick goes and try to kills thousands for his enjoyment. What a sick asshole
And it wasn't for his enjoyment it was a business venture, he never even went to the dog fights.
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Some people even eat dogs... Just saying...
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Ok you love your dogs...and as stated he didn't kill your dogs...just don't let him pet sit your animals and its all going to be ok.
Yeah, it wasn't my dogs. But he took strays and dogs from the pound that could have gone to people that would have given them a good life.

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I'm guessing you believe Vick deserves life in prison for what he did? That obviously is the difference in opinions, it seems.

You can argue how severe the punishment should be all day long. I'm just saying, once his sentence is over, his punishment should be over. That's the whole point of sentencing.
He did get off easy.
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Some people even eat dogs... Just saying...
I know. I was watching a show on the national geographic and they were starting to talk about this. I had to turn the channel, it was horrifying
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I'd try dog. I love dogs but if its already dead and cooked its not like me declining to eat it is gonna change anything.
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