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Old 02-27-2009, 11:31 AM    (permalink
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Rotoworld guessing that it was for a 2nd and a late rounder, makes sense for both sides. Winslow wasn't gonna work out in Cleveland.
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Winslow actually wanted to finish his career in Cleveland.

Unfortunately, between the broken leg, motor cycle accident, and a few years of football, he is playing on one knee. Better to move him now than hold onto him as his knee deteriorates even more.

It's a shame how that motorcycle accident hurt this guy's career. When he was close to healthy, he was really, really good.
He may have said that, but I seriously doubt that.

After all those reports about his injury last year he felt wronged by the front office and didn't want to be there.
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Did not see that coming. Its probably for a third this year and a performance based pick next year...?
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:32 AM    (permalink
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This is just stupid IMO unless it's for the Bucs first which I highly doubt it is. Steve Heiden is a great blocker but KW2 still had plenty of upside. Not to mention he would've been a big help to a young Brady Quinn.
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Rotoworld guessing that it was for a 2nd and a late rounder, makes sense for both sides. Winslow wasn't gonna work out in Cleveland.
I'm betting a 2nd and 5th?
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Goddamnit!!!

Worst news of the day for NFC south teams.

Why must Cleveland be so completely incompetent? This had better be for a 1st round pick! (and it won't...)
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He may have said that, but I seriously doubt that.

After all those reports about his injury last year he felt wronged by the front office and didn't want to be there.
That front office is gone
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Is the Braylon Edwards talks over? Given that they just traded a guy who would help open the field for Edwards, he must not be happy.
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A little questionable to me because if your going with a young quarterback I think you need as much talent for him to throw to as possible, but they certainly could come out of this better overall.

This makes Crabtree a serious option at 5 now.
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An interesting side note, the trade was made by two rookie GM's
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If the Browns received a 2nd and another pick, assuming they make even a decent pick, this trade was an absolute steal.

Tampa fans will soon find out how broken down Winslow is. The guy will play through anything, but it won't take long for Tampa fans to realize how much Winslow is a shadow of what he could have been.
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Unless it's for a 1st round pick, the Browns are stupid.

I feel so bad for Browns fans. Just terrible management.
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Winslow is gonna get over 9,000 tds next year along with the 394034920230230 times he runs over defending players.

I hope he plays the Browns and breaks mangini's neck and then throws a spear at kolkinis and screams that hes a solider then rides off to the sunset in a motorcycle.
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If the Browns received a 2nd and another pick, assuming they make even a decent pick, this trade was an absolute steal.

Tampa fans will soon find out how broken down Winslow is. The guy will play through anything, but it won't take long for Tampa fans to realize how much Winslow is a shadow of what he could have been.
Does that matter when you put up about 1,200 yards as a tight end and get 89 then 83 receptions.

If he can play through the pain the Bucs are getting a great receiving tight end.
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Chris im gonna tea bag you in your sleep.
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Does that matter when you put up about 1,200 yards as a tight end and get 89 then 83 receptions.

If he can play through the pain the Bucs are getting a great receiving tight end.
Winslow missed countless blocks and was a liability in the run offense. He also had about 40 offensive pass interferences.
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If the Browns received a 2nd and another pick, assuming they make even a decent pick, this trade was an absolute steal.

Tampa fans will soon find out how broken down Winslow is. The guy will play through anything, but it won't take long for Tampa fans to realize how much Winslow is a shadow of what he could have been.
Well I wouldn't go that far, I think Winslow will be big for Tampa b/c they dont have much outside Bryant to throw to and he is just a glorified big slot receiver as it is. I don't think our offense will be hurt though with Heiden and Rucker. This is a win-win trade for both sides, they get a good receiving tight end, we get a 2nd round pick and some change to upgrade elsewhere and our offense probably wont change much at all (remember last year when K2 was hurt how our offense played great against Jax and NY?)
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Winslow sucks. He's TO without the production. I'm tired of hearing about upside with him.... he's as soft as Charmin.

Good move by the Browns.

For Tampa, it's worth the risk. But between Winslow and Antonio Bryant... attitudes are starting to pile up.
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I loved Winslow, but the Browns just had to get rid of him. They need more draft picks in the worst way, and no one knows how long Winslow's knee will hold up. They got something for him while they still can.
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The Buccaneers are the Browns-South: Jeff Faine, Kellen Winslow, Antonio Bryant...why don't they just resign Jeff Garcia too?
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Instead of the Brown-cos how about the Browncaneers?
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I would not be shocked if Winslow retires after 2 years. His knee is that bad
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