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Old 02-28-2009, 06:22 PM    (permalink
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I doubt this is right, Cutler would not want out IMO because the season he just had with Brandon Marshal was absolute magic, Tampa doesnt have a reciever like BM, and when you factor in Eddie Royal's emergence along with the signing of Jabar Gaffney i dont think he'd take 0-16 Detroit even with Calvin there.

They're trying to get a run game going, JJ Arrington, Buckhalter, both decent players.
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If this whole rumor is true then that's a really dumb move by McDaniels. That essencially shows that he has no confidence in a pro bowl QB.
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Stafford and Cutler are exactly 100% the same, am I right??
Think about Stafford's potential contract, maybe detroit dosent want to spend that much on a rookie QB.
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Trade him to Carolina for Peppers!!!!!!!!

Interesting stuff, I wonder how serious it is, I mean hell this "source" could be a gardener who once mowed his lawn.
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Honestly, the chances of him getting traded now are minute. They're stuck with eachother. It's not like they're looking to fill his position with a rookie Qb and they wont find better on the open market.
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Even if Jay wants out he is not going any where no way what so ever long time before the season he will calm down.
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Stafford and Cutler are very similar, except I've never seen Stafford show any of the diva behavior Cutler sometimes shows. You could make an argument both for and against the Lions trading the #1 pick for Cutler. Any other team who needs a QB should just straight up offer Denver their first, no questions asked.
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How would it be tampering? They were trying to work a 3 Team trade just like Tampa Bay was.

I wonder what the deal would have been..
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-Pats get pick no. 33 from Lions OR a 2009 AND 2010 2nd rounder from Tampa

-Denver gets Cassel and either the bucs or lions (#20) 1st rounder and maybe another mid round pick

-Tampa or Detroit gets Cutler
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I don't think Detroit would be dealing #1 for Cutler.

It'd be #20 and something . . .

I am just beside myself trying to make some sense of this.
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This won't happen...I would have to take a time out from my bronco fandom.

I'm with njx, this is pretty much a BS report. Denver was offered a trade for Jay, and they declined. I really can't see them actively shopping a pro bowl, stud, quarterback with limitless potential. It would have to be a herschal walker like trade for bronco nation to be super pissed.
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I hope he refuses to play and they trade him lol. It would Spice up the offseason a little and make njx angry.
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I doubt this is right, Cutler would not want out IMO because the season he just had with Brandon Marshal was absolute magic, Tampa doesnt have a reciever like BM, and when you factor in Eddie Royal's emergence along with the signing of Jabar Gaffney i dont think he'd take 0-16 Detroit even with Calvin there.

They're trying to get a run game going, JJ Arrington, Buckhalter, both decent players.
If he did that well with Brandon Marshal imagine how well he'd do with Calvin Johnson. if it was for the #20 there would be a franchise LT there at the top of the draft probobly Eugene Monroe or someone. Cutler's ego would let him think I could be seen as the savior of the Lions.
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Just the possibility that this ever could have happened has officially made me consider this offseason a colossal failure for the Lions.

I love Stafford, but for the price of either 20 or 33 to have gotten Cutler or Cassel just infuriates me.

**** you Martin Mayhew.
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Just the possibility that this ever could have happened has officially made me consider this offseason a colossal failure for the Lions.

I love Stafford, but for the price of either 20 or 33 to have gotten Cutler or Cassel just infuriates me.

**** you Martin Mayhew.
What would Matt Millen do?
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Trade for Cutler and draft Crabtree.... Crabtree/ Calvin Johnson= CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
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Stafford and Cutler are very similar, except I've never seen Stafford show any of the diva behavior Cutler sometimes shows. You could make an argument both for and against the Lions trading the #1 pick for Cutler. Any other team who needs a QB should just straight up offer Denver their first, no questions asked.

There isnt any scenario where Denver would move Cutler without getting a top tier QB in return (apparently they thought Cassel was that). I dont see them just trading him for a non QB no matter how good the guy is.
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Just the possibility that this ever could have happened has officially made me consider this offseason a colossal failure for the Lions.

I love Stafford, but for the price of either 20 or 33 to have gotten Cutler or Cassel just infuriates me.

**** you Martin Mayhew.
Dont forget you would have got Vrabel too:)
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Schefter already confirmed hours ago that McDaniels never tried to shop Cutler. Tampa and Detroit offered trades for Cutler, and Denver denied them.

McDaniels also said the same thing.
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If Cutler leaves because of McDaniels then he should be fired right away. Really poor move by McDaniels.
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Schefter already confirmed hours ago that McDaniels never tried to shop Cutler. Tampa and Detroit offered trades for Cutler, and Denver denied them.

McDaniels also said the same thing.
Wasnt Schefter the one that started the whole thing in the first place?. At least nobody in here overreacted to the story.
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If Cutler leaves because of McDaniels then he should be fired right away. Really poor move by McDaniels.
McDaniels didn't do anything. He was offered a trade for Cutler, not the other way around.
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There isnt any scenario where Denver would move Cutler without getting a top tier QB in return (apparently they thought Cassel was that). I dont see them just trading him for a non QB no matter how good the guy is.
I didn't think they would try to trade him for Cassel, so if that report were to be true, maybe they don't think as highly of him as others. If he doesn't want to be there, and they don;t think that highly of him, maybe they would take a 1st rounder for him. The report probably isn't true in the first place, so...
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I didn't think they would try to trade him for Cassel, so if that report were to be true, maybe they don't think as highly of him as others. If he doesn't want to be there, and they don;t think that highly of him, maybe they would take a 1st rounder for him. The report probably isn't true in the first place, so...
If you believe half of what you read on the internet there seems to be a lot of back peddling on the whole subject. Sounds like Jay isnt too happy. I guess they could move him but he's worth a lot more than just a #1 that's for sure. What does Denver do trade him and draft a Mark Sanchez? Dont think so.
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