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Old 02-28-2009, 09:37 PM    (permalink
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So the minute someone says anything remotely controversial in regards to his status on the team, you have to trade him? Cutler isn't going anywhere, half the crap that comes out on "reports" is bogus, the other half is fluff for the bogus BS.
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Chris Mortensen said that Cutler hasn't demanded to be traded.
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With all these Cassel rumors I am curious to see what the deal he makes with the Chiefs is worth. I am thinking like 6 years 60 million, with 20-25 million guaranteed.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:51 PM    (permalink
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Just the possibility that this ever could have happened has officially made me consider this offseason a colossal failure for the Lions.

I love Stafford, but for the price of either 20 or 33 to have gotten Cutler or Cassel just infuriates me.

**** you Martin Mayhew.
No need to talk bad about Mayhew.. Maybe they just don't like Cassel as a franchise QB.. and Kowalski says that a deal could still be in the works for Cutler..

I doubt either happens, I assume Denver would only be up for moving Cutler if they got Cassel in return.
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Maybe Denver's original intentions were to only trade Cutler if they could get Cassel, as insane as that is. But now it seems like it might backfire on them if it proves to be true. They may have pissed Cutler off so bad that he will demand a trade, and then the Broncos don't have a choice and might have to move him anyways, even though Cassel isn't available anymore.

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Yeah, it's a bit of a mountain out of a molehill if Cutler is really upset about this. Lets face it, if a team calls with a "trade offer" and you take the call, you've discussed trading cutler even if the discussion consisted of "lol no"
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Besides, any GM that blows off any trade offers for players is doing a disservice to his team and ownership. You're always looking to improve your team, and in my sincere opinion, there isn't one player in the NFL that is absolutely untouchable.
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It's funny the way the media and fans have begun to totally overanalyze the Lions #1 overall pick. They just need to take Stafford and do everything they can to set him, and the rest of their team, up to succeed. It's not a curse to have the #1 overall pick and take a QB if, ya know, he turns out to be a good QB and stuff. You didn't see teams like the Colts and Giants going into fits of anxiety when they took a QB #1 overall. The Lions need to follow the example the Falcons set with Ryan: Draft him, sign him as early as possible, draft other good players with the rest of the draft and then get to work. No need for overanalysis.
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No need to talk bad about Mayhew.. Maybe they just don't like Cassel as a franchise QB.. and Kowalski says that a deal could still be in the works for Cutler..

I doubt either happens, I assume Denver would only be up for moving Cutler if they got Cassel in return.
I need someone to blame for this. Might as well be Mayhew.

Why the **** wouldn't the Lions trade #33 for Cassel?
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I need someone to blame for this. Might as well be Mayhew.

Why the **** wouldn't the Lions trade #33 for Cassel?
Maybe they've checked him out and don't think he's a guy worth passing on Stafford for..
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Maybe because they've checked him out and don't think he's a guy worth passing on Stafford for?
I hope that's the case then. But going to all that trouble trying to get Cutler could just as easily be interpreted as a lack of confidence that Stafford is our guy.
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I don't think Detroit would be dealing #1 for Cutler.

It'd be #20 and something . . .

I am just beside myself trying to make some sense of this.
If Cutler was actually available you should give up #1 for him in a second. Why would you use #1 on Stafford, but not Cutler?
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If Cutler was actually available you should give up #1 for him in a second. Why would you use #1 on Stafford, but not Cutler?
I would trade #1 for Cutler.

It just didn't sound like it would have required that to get him.

Oh well, it's a moot point now. He isn't ever coming to Detroit.
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Besides, any GM that blows off any trade offers for players is doing a disservice to his team and ownership. You're always looking to improve your team, and in my sincere opinion, there isn't one player in the NFL that is absolutely untouchable.
Yeah, I'm assuming the only reason he didn't laugh immediately is because if they could get Cassell+some high picks and a defensive starter or two out of it it's not a TERRIBLE deal.

EDIT: Assuming we draft better than we did in the Shanny era.
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Washington get on that! Infact why don't we just go get T.J. too and buy up a damn ring.
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This whole thing is really silly but here's what I just heard... very interesting...

Michael Smith said the Bucs would've given up their 1st and 3rd for Cutler, then the Broncos would trade #12 for Cassel.

Don't know why the Broncos wouldn't offer 19 instead of 12...

Anyway how crazy that would've been. Pats fans would've been a lot happier.

Patriots get: #12

Broncos get: Matt Cassel, #19, Bucs 3rd rounder

Bucs get: Jay Cutler (And then they'd have no picks until round four)

Crazy.
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This whole thing is really silly but here's what I just heard... very interesting...

Michael Smith said the Bucs would've given up their 1st and 3rd for Cutler, then the Broncos would trade #12 for Cassel.

Don't know why the Broncos wouldn't offer 19 instead of 12...

Anyway how crazy that would've been. Pats fans would've been a lot happier.

Patriots get: #12

Broncos get: Matt Cassel, #19, Bucs 3rd rounder

Bucs get: Jay Cutler (And then they'd have no picks until round four)

Crazy.
The Broncos would be getting ripped off.

Jay Cutler for Matt Cassel straight up would be an absolutely terrible trade, and in that scenario they are getting even less than that.
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Brady Quinn for Jay Cutler :)
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Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton, Nathan Vasher, and #18 overall.

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I haven't heard much about a contract extension for Cutler, what's the word on that? Denver could be nervous because Cutler's a borderline headcase and prima-donna. If you asked NFL people who they would want between Cutler and Matt Ryan, I bet 9 out of 10 of them would take Ryan, because he has the characteristics of a strong leader who has the complete trust of everyone in the organization.
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Not a good start for the Broncos. Perhaps firing Shanahan wasn't such a good idea after all.
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What the hell was McDaniel thinking?

Damnit, Cutler had better not end up on the Bucs. ****.
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I haven't heard much about a contract extension for Cutler, what's the word on that? Denver could be nervous because Cutler's a borderline headcase and prima-donna. If you asked NFL people who they would want between Cutler and Matt Ryan, I bet 9 out of 10 of them would take Ryan, because he has the characteristics of a strong leader who has the complete trust of everyone in the organization.
Give me a break, even im not a big Cutler fan, but he's not that bad, he's just cocky. Headcase? give me a break.
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I think this is a big non-story. I guarantee McDaniels called/will call or meet with Cutler and basically tell him that teams contacted him about a trade for you, but that Cutler's still his guy.
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